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September 2, 2013

Have the President and various members of Congress lost all common sense? I cannot understand that they would ever consider cutting aid to Egypt's military over the coup that toppled the Muslim......

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rmiller

Sep-03-13 2:16 PM

Jerry,

I'm fine, how have you been?

About nuking? I made that as a personal comment.....but...to answer your query on "Thou shalt not kill."

The Bible is riddled with wars and rumors of war, many which Jehovah God ordered the Nation of Israel to do in order to procure land and or put down pagan/baal worship. Please know this, it was never God's plan for war in any manner. However, the fall of man, brought about sin, hence the ugliness and utter despair of war. There is a distinction between war and murder. There is also a distinction between justified war and senseless war in the Bible.

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Scott36

Sep-03-13 10:36 AM

What's the difference between a democracy, and an elective republic? Just wondering what the responses will be.

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jjs8282

Sep-03-13 7:28 AM

America needs to worry about our own country before sticking our nose in other countries business. Why should we pay for millions of people in other countries when millions here without jobs, homes, food, and without the simple basics of life? I'm not talking welfare I'm talking simply bringing jobs here. Stop wasting money in other countries. If we simply did that, imagine how much America will save a year.

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MrShaman

Sep-03-13 7:01 AM

"What I am saying is that democracy does not equal freedom. How hard is that to understand? How can anyone even argue with that? It's obvious!" - enigma

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No doubt. You T-Baggers demonstrate that...DAILY...to whichever minority is available.

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MrShaman

Sep-03-13 6:57 AM

"Freedom and democracy is not something we can bestow on any country. We have tried that too many times and failed." - Capricorn1

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Yeah...there was a LOT o' "bestowing" (to the Right-Wing dictators, in Central America), THROUGHOUT the '80s!!!!!

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MrShaman

Sep-03-13 6:52 AM

"Jerry and Scott, I don't see any anti-democracy rhetoric here. I am merely warning of the folly of assuming that having democracy means having freedom." - enigma

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Ah, yes...you're referring to the THIRD-factor; skin-tone.

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MrShaman

Sep-03-13 6:47 AM

"At first I was surprised by the anti-democratic rhetoric expressed here - but taken into consideration with one party's attempt to obstruct voting rights with new requirements, I should have seen it coming." - JerryfromRI

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Just keep your eyes "peeled", for the herd/mob...sporting flaming-crosses & guns. You SHOULD be able to smell them...before you see them.

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spike2

Sep-03-13 6:44 AM

Enigma - I guess some of us are trying to meet them in the 7th century. " These are people whose entire culture is stuck in the seventh century. Who cares if they are secular? They still won't tolerate anything you insist on. They won't allow abortion or gay marriage, or even just being gay". Sounds a lot like the proposed politics of some here.

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MrShaman

Sep-03-13 6:42 AM

"Sham, How do you figure? These are people whose entire culture is stuck in the seventh century. Who cares if they are secular?" - enigma

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Primarily, Christians...who won't know WHICH way to turn...in their never-ending search for the next "Crusade".

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MrShaman

Sep-03-13 6:38 AM

"Since he took office, President Obama has favored Sunni muslims over all others." - eriklatranyi

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You Shias are sounding as paranoid as the average T-Bagger.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-03-13 5:40 AM

"Where are those anti-war people now?"

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The Green Party had anti-war rallies all around the country.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-03-13 5:35 AM

Hey rmiller. It has been a while. How have you been?

With regard to nuking the Middle East, do you see a conflict with the 'Thou shall not kill' Commandment?

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rmiller

Sep-02-13 10:36 PM

Not so long ago in a place called the Bush era, I recall millions of anti-Bush persons screaming about his lies and the WMD's and Iraq intervention. Where are those anti-war people now? Where is your protest? A part of me believes we should drop a nuke on Syria, Iran and Libya. A part of me wants to just get out of the entire Eastern Region and let those people fight to the deaths. They've been fighting for centuries. I don't know what is "right" but I do know what is wrong. And, the leftists of this world were all to ready to hang President Bush for "invading" Iraq (not that he didn't have the approval of Congress already). Wrong is where liberals want their cake and eat it too.

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rmiller

Sep-02-13 10:29 PM

"Actually, Egypt is showing MUCH-more maturity, than the U.S., in development of their new Constitution! They're minimalising any-and-ALL religious-influences!!!!!! "

That's odd, John....

I recall your proclamation a hundred times over that our constitution speaks nothing about religion.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-02-13 8:50 PM

I made one compound statement at 3:26 and have asked three questions, at 3:26, 6:24 and 7:38. (Not counting asking Bobbie about his weekend.)

Are you sure you've correctly identified who it is that is not open minded?

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enigma

Sep-02-13 8:36 PM

Jerry, OMC!!! Just how dumb are you? I didn't say we shouldn't promote democracy. I said we need to promote freedom. I also said that freedom requires some sort of democratic process. But what good is democracy without freedom. Take Egypt for example. The had a nice democratic election and got a Muslim fanatic tyrant, who was even worse than what they got rid of. Democracy is not equal to freedom. That is not even open for debate, but you seem to want to debate it. More accurately, you want to twist what I say so that you don't have to agree with a, gasp, 'Conservative'. Real open-minded of you.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-02-13 7:39 PM

Hey Bobbie, how are you? Did you have a relaxing Labor Day weekend?

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JerryfromRI

Sep-02-13 7:38 PM

"We have been trying to establish democracies in these Middle Eastern countries rather than encouraging freedom. "

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Please, do tell, how can we promote freedom in the Middle East, instead of promoting the adoption of democracy.

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enigma

Sep-02-13 7:28 PM

Jerry, Are you trying to prove that you are as dense as Chuck. I've plainly said that this country was founded on the principles of freedom. I've also said that the democratic process was part of that, but don't confuse that with the idea that this country was founded on democratic principles. It may be a little to nuanced for you, but it's an important distinction, which is why I brought it up in the first place. We have been trying to establish democracies in these Middle Eastern countries rather than encouraging freedom. Democracy does not guarantee freedom. That's all I've been saying. Is it really that difficult a concept to grasp?

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JerryfromRI

Sep-02-13 6:24 PM

"This country was founded on the principles of individual freedom, not democracy."

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" I'm not saying that we shouldn't have democratically elected representatives. In fact I DID say that is necessary for freedom. "

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If having democratically elected representatives are necessary for freedom AND our country was founded on the principals of individual freedom, then what does that say about the principles our country was founded upon?

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ToTEXASfromPA

Sep-02-13 6:06 PM

"Don't be saying you support democratic ideals and then turn around don't like what the people in that nation voted for. You want to tell the people of that nation who their leaders should be not who they want."--CMReeder.

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Didn't we learn from the democracy that GWB admin (and the Congress that voted to support the invasion) put in place in Iraq. The ****es and Sunnis just continue to kill each other. The Kurds are strong enough in the northern regions of Iraq and have the closest semblance of order since they significantly out number the ****es and Sunnis and want to move into he 21st century.

A democracy doesn't work with all people groups. People groups need to have a basic respect for human life, regardless of their color, cultural background, religious leaning, gender, age, etc. for a democracy to work.

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enigma

Sep-02-13 6:04 PM

Chuck,"Enigma you really are a horse's behind."

How thick is that skull of yours? I'm not saying that we shouldn't have democratically elected representatives. In fact I DID say that is necessary for freedom. What I am saying is that democracy does not equal freedom. How hard is that to understand? How can anyone even argue with that? It's obvious! Stop being stupid on purpose, you do it enough without meaning to.

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CMReeder

Sep-02-13 5:45 PM

Guess who else favored the Saudi Royal family, both Bushes, Reagan, Romney just to name a few.

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CMReeder

Sep-02-13 5:40 PM

Enigma you really are a horse's behind.

Part of that freedom is electing your leaders. People being able to give voice in their government. They do that through the democratic process.

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CMReeder

Sep-02-13 5:37 PM

"Our president encouraged the overthrow of Mubarak and now this mess is happening."

Really only he supported the overthrow of Mubarak.

Don't be saying you support democratic ideals and then turn around don't like what the people in that nation voted for. You want to tell the people of that nation who their leaders should be not who they want.

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