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It is everywhere!

September 5, 2013

What is it? It is disrespect for another property. Mr. Mark Weisel wrote in his letter, 'What I'm zoned for", the continued vandalism of his property in the city of Williamsport....

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Ritty77

Sep-07-13 6:28 AM

Mom is fine, thanks.

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rmiller

Sep-06-13 11:03 PM

How's Mom?

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Ritty77

Sep-06-13 5:40 PM

Hi, Relene. I'm well, thank you.

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rmiller

Sep-05-13 11:47 PM

Keith,

Hello...how are you?

Are you drinking that kool aid now? His entire letter speaks to socialism. Perhaps, you are looking for that "change" we all would like to see in at least one liberal, but it's not Chuck. :)

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USABorn

Sep-05-13 6:16 PM

msamerica101 - 8:50 AM

"I think it goes back to the basics that parents need to teach their children respect for our land."

Children should be taught respect for a lot of things, everything from land to people.

Children are a responsibility, and too many people don't want to accept that responsiblity anymore.

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enigma

Sep-05-13 2:04 PM

Ritty and john, I would like to think that you are right about what Chuck meant, but based on previous statements, I doubt it. Maybe we could get him to wave his no comment policy to expand on just what he did mean by property being a shared right.

What do you say Chuck, will you do that for us?

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Ritty77

Sep-05-13 1:27 PM

"Property is not just an individual right; it is a shared right by all individuals. Sometimes I think we forget that."

I didn't take that the Commie/Obama way. I think he meant that we all have a right to own, by our own labor, private property, and that others should remember that they wouldn't want that done to their property. A Golden Rule thing, I think.

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Scott36

Sep-05-13 1:19 PM

Imagine that a liberal using a government gun to rob you.-Bobbie2

How so?

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underwood

Sep-05-13 1:17 PM

Enigma, the hippie communes and the early Pilgrims learned that what you say is true. You don’t see many communes around any longer.

Caring for the Earth and our environment is entirely divorced from property rights unless activity on one’s property is a source of pollution and that’s a legal issue.

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johnnyad3

Sep-05-13 1:14 PM

"it is a shared right by all individuals."

I read it as we all have a right to own property. I don't believe Chuck was trying to say we have a right to share property.

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enigma

Sep-05-13 11:54 AM

Webster defines property: something owned or possessed; something to which a person or business has a legal title

This would tend to rule out the idea of property being a 'shared right'. A thing owned by everyone is owned by no one. If it is owned by no one it is not property at all. 'Shared property' is very much a Marxist creation and much like many other Marxist principles, it exists only in the imagination of the Marxist. It would be great if everyone could share everything, but the problem is that while everyone is willing to take equal part in consuming, when it comes to producing, not so much. Until all people are just as willing to work as they are to eat, Marxism, in any of it's wonderful forms will not work.

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Scott36

Sep-05-13 11:21 AM

Cavefelem, Oh come-on, put it back in perspective. To property taxes, don't pay them & see how long you still own your property.

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CaveFelem

Sep-05-13 10:26 AM

If we all share property, great. I'll be expecting everyone to shell out a buck or 2 toward my property tax bill.

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BornHere

Sep-05-13 10:24 AM

Good letter Mr. Reeder. Native Americans have a saying about pollution, "Treat the earth well. It was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children".

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Scott36

Sep-05-13 10:13 AM

Sorry, Chuck. You have no rights to other peoples property.-mikekerstetter From the Pa. Constitution:

Natural Resources and the Public Estate Section 27.

The people have a right to clean air, pure water, and to the preservation of the natural, scenic, historic and esthetic values of the environment. Pennsylvania's public natural resources are the common property of all the people, including generations yet to come. As trustee of these resources, the Commonwealth shall conserve and maintain them for the benefit of all the people.

I personally consider litter to be in violation of Section 27. No matter who's property it is on.

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djzlucky

Sep-05-13 9:50 AM

Cap, I was curious about this "Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing" you've mentioned a few times now on different posts.

I'm not sure where you're getting your info, but the only way this could possibly affect personal property is if the property owner was involved in a HUD program (which really means "is a Section 8 landlord"). Those property owners already have to strictly comply with the Fair Housing Act.

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JohnZook

Sep-05-13 9:24 AM

Yep, it's all about "respect". But nobody teaches respect anymore. It's all about me, me, me. That's what America teaches it's children. "I'm too special"; that's what my teacher and my parents always tell me. What a world........

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enigma

Sep-05-13 9:14 AM

"Isn't the balance having individual rights and doing some things for the common good?"--Spike2

Actually, I agree with that. The problem is that with individual rights is the right to not do things for the common good. They need to be done out of a sense of duty. Rights can only exist in an environment where people have a strong sense of responsibility. We need to teach that, because if we lose our sense of responsibility, we will lose our individual rights.

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enigma

Sep-05-13 9:07 AM

"Property is not just an individual right; it is a shared right by all individuals."--Chuck

There are no shared rights. Rights are by definition and necessity individual. The only sense in which they are shared is that we either all have them or no one has them, but each right is an individual right. Shared rights is a Progressive illusion created to get sheep like Chuck to sacrifice the rights of others in order to protect the rights of a group. Don't believe it? Have you ever heard anyone complain about having "our shared rights" violated? No, it's always "my rights" that were violated. Shared rights are not rights at all.

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underwood

Sep-05-13 9:02 AM

That’s a good letter, except for the last paragraph, which needs to be elaborated on a bit.

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enigma

Sep-05-13 8:57 AM

Didn't Chuck tell us in a letter just last week that Mark's letter would make his home impossible to sell? And now he's telling us that what's happening to Mark happens to everybody. So Chuck, why will his home be hard to sell if it is no different than what happens everywhere. Chuck has a very rare disorder in which all of his multiple personalities have the same name.

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rmiller

Sep-05-13 8:57 AM

The early fathers of Socialism would be proud, Chuck?

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msamerica101

Sep-05-13 8:50 AM

Good letter. My question is when did the respect for "our" property, the Earth, etc. completely get lost and abandoned.

I never really see the litter bugs in action but I see the result of it when I drive down the highway or walk the streets of Williamsport.

I think it goes back to the basics that parents need to teach their children respect for our land.

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SteelerFan

Sep-05-13 8:20 AM

Let's stop trying to get inside Chuckie's head. It's a dark and dreary place. He must have an abnormal amount of free time these days with all of his 'pithy' LTE's.

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Capricorn1

Sep-05-13 7:48 AM

You will never completely eliminate littering. Too many people have a total lack of respect for themselves and others. The only way to control it, is for everyone to keep their own property clean. As far as public property, I see no reason why this can't be done as part or community service. Many violators owe thousands of dollars in fines that the county will probably never see. Why not allow them to work their fines off through community service. Paying county and city workers to clean up public property is an expense we can no longer afford.

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