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September 7, 2013

To settle the problem of voter registration, we need to set up voter ID registration at the polling places....

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Scott36

Sep-10-13 6:19 PM

rmiller, One of the biggest gifts that I got from my father was the lesson of "to see things the way they are, not the way you wish they were, or would like them to be, or think they should be, but the way they are" sounds simple enough, but sometimes its hard to see, & accept things in this light. But this is how we can be better people, make better decisions, grow, etc. Thank you for the most pleasant reply. Scott

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rmiller

Sep-08-13 11:06 PM

Scott,

Thank you for your clarification. Like you, I've tried to reduce much negative and focus on positive. I also do not want to ruin my testimony and have frequently been called on it by Christians and secularists. That's OK, it helps me grow...we all are still growing and I admire your openness and vulnerability to truth. You don't owe me any explanation on your history - we all have one! :)

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Scott36

Sep-08-13 3:02 PM

rmiller, Of all of the posters here that I have had some slight differences of opinion with, you are by far the most openly heartfelt person I have exchanged posts with. Also I cannot think of any that have been as polite. My post was not directed at you. I do want you to know that. It occurs to me that from this post of yours, & Caps. I may have been focusing too much on the negative, than on the pos. It is in my nature to go strong on the offensive. Those whom know me usually describe me as very optimistic , maybe I should reflect on this. Thank you for the post, have a safe & happy day!-Scott

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Scott36

Sep-08-13 2:54 PM

Cap. My opinion is that our "heated?" exchanges have been fair, or at least not overboard. I will give serious consideration to your response. One small side note about myself that may clarify(not excuse) some of my recent posts. The small town I grew up in was very ethnic. I probably have more of that ethnic background, & blood running through my veins than most of my critics, however my last name did not reflect that. This being stated, I learned many lessons growing up,(as all of us have)one being to not let your opponent gain the high ground so to speak. I am sure you fully understand what I am saying. Another being is that bullies in packs are usually nothing when cut out & on their own. I do try to continue to mature,& grow no matter at what age, but old lessons & habits die hard!-Scott

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rmiller

Sep-07-13 10:20 PM

Scott,

I haven't seen much bashing your way. If I have done so, I apologize because Cap is correct in that most of your posts (and all responses to me) are fair and with respect. I also think that most of the "right/republicans/conservatives" have been decent with you, so I'm not certain what you're talking about. :)

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Capricorn1

Sep-07-13 9:28 PM

Scott, in my opinion, you're losing credibility by changing your approach. Go back to your original style of being yourself and expressing your thoughts in a meaningful way.... some may not agree, but does it really matter if you are staying true to your convictions? There is a lot of heated dialog on here as there always is when discussing politics and religion in any forum. All we can do is try and act like adults and respect everyone's opinion, myself included because I know I've gotten out of line at times. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

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Ritty77

Sep-07-13 8:43 PM

Voter ID laws increase the integrity of the voting process. That is without argument.

The question is whether this benefit is outweighed by any possible disenfranchisement of some voters.

In my opinion, in the opinion of 75% of Americans polled, and in the opinion of the Supreme Court, the answer is no, it is not.

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sideliner

Sep-07-13 6:02 PM

erik posts: "Voter ID is needed for fair elections."

Where is the evidence of unfair election results achieved through in-person voter fraud because ID w?as not required?

erik again: "Is it any surprise that he is in favor of election fraud?"

Where is the evidence of the wide spread "election fraud" voter ID laws are meant to prevent?

Seems like a whole lot of ado about nothing. And that is my problem with the law. Motive and timing. A problem does not exist.

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eriklatranyi

Sep-07-13 5:21 PM

Sham is an idiot. He thinks conservatives only wanted voter ID after Obama was elected.

But, that is because Sham is a racist and sees everything as black versus white.

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Scott36

Sep-07-13 5:15 PM

BTW, Cap. if you do not hear from me tonight(should you wish to respond) I am not ignoring you, I am about to go out fishing with my wife, and son. Have a safe & happy evening!-Scott

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Scott36

Sep-07-13 5:11 PM

Capricorn- I agree with you. The problem is, I tried to post thoughtful things & what I got for my efforts was the same thing I have gotten just about everywhere I try to communicate with those on the right--Lets start off with hacking my style of writing. Blame that on my high school English teachers. They taught me to try to write in such a way as to grab a persons attention. My attempts were attacked, so I "dumbed" it down.

Next, whenever someone is asked an uncomfortable question, I get attacked in an effort to deflect from an answer. I get called stupid, have my faith questioned, low IQ, socialist, & whatever else can be squeezed in. Personally I don't mind, BUT if that is what the people like, and understand/respect around here, as they say, if you can't beat em, join em.- I truly am curious to your response, & will show it thoughtful consideration, if it is sincere.-Scott

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Capricorn1

Sep-07-13 1:51 PM

I agree, it should be fair both ways. How about a free roll of tin foil for the Rep. registers? -Scott

Scott when you first started commenting, you took the time to post well thought out comments. While I didn't agree with some of your views, at least you didn't take the same approach as some others on here. Lately you seem to be extremely defensive and you're resorting to finger pointing and trivial remarks. If your convictions and facts speak for themselves, then rhetoric such as the comment above wouldn't be necessary.

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Scott36

Sep-07-13 1:45 PM

My question, What would be needed to register? A photo ID?

I was fine with this letter up to this comment; "Maybe we can give out grocery gift cards as an incentive."rick424

I agree, it should be fair both ways. How about a free roll of tin foil for the Rep. registers?

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rick424

Sep-07-13 10:19 AM

I was fine with this letter up to this comment; "Maybe we can give out grocery gift cards as an incentive." Just shows the mentality of the right and how out of touch they really are.

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GoBB62

Sep-07-13 9:52 AM

"Oh, how I can hear the left-wing howlers barking at the moon on this one." - GoBB62

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"You can thank the sales-and-marketing folks, at the S-G, for that." - little man sham

Now I know why Bobbie calls you Fido. LOL!

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spike2

Sep-07-13 9:48 AM

Wouldn't the simplest solution be for respective parties to start voter outreach prior to election season? FYI - you can not get ID at the courthouse, only register at Executive Plaza. You can also register to vote at the DMV when you get your photo ID.

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Capricorn1

Sep-07-13 9:19 AM

Shaman, I noticed you conveniently left out the first half of my post. Guess you must agree that the actual numbers are very skewed by liberals.

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rmiller

Sep-07-13 9:06 AM

If you believe you are disenfranchised, then get "enfranchised." Problem solved, quit whining.

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enigma

Sep-07-13 8:55 AM

Sham, Where's your proof? The lawsuit to stop voter ID had a few plaintiffs, and the main plaintiff had her ID before it went to trial. Most people think voter ID is a good idea. That's not because they are against fair elections, but just the opposite. Voter ID is needed for fair elections. Those who oppose voter ID want the ability to cheat easily. They don't want fair elections, they want fail elections. We all know what kind of person Sham is from his discusting posts here. Is it any surprise that he is in favor of election fraud?

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MrShaman

Sep-07-13 8:43 AM

"I think the actual number of people that function in today's society that do not possess and are unable to acquire an ID, and are voter eligible, is MUCH less than what is being reported by liberal sources." - Capricorn1

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Fine!! Let's see your proof!!

What you (and, "conservatives") THINK, hardly qualifies as "fact".

So far, the (actual) Facts don't support what you "think".

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MrShaman

Sep-07-13 8:32 AM

Shaman, I was with you until you couldn't help yourself and you threw in this rhetoric...

"This Spring/Summer time-period would ALSO allow Republicans PLENTY-of-time to "search and destroy" as many voters as is possible...in a PUBLIC-manner, requiring BULLET-PROOF evidence for DOING-so, on a case-by-case basis." - Capricorn1

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Isn't that what this is all-about??

When Republicans CAN'T provide bulletproof-evidence of widespread voter-fraud...yet, INSIST we need some kind o' "fix"...right-AFTER Obama had won his first election (while they never seemed to notice any "need", previously)...what are people EXPECTED to believe...ESPECIALLY after Mr. Weigle suggested "Maybe we can give out grocery gift cards as an incentive."??

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CarlHiller

Sep-07-13 8:25 AM

Capricorn1, I agree wholeheartedly.

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Capricorn1

Sep-07-13 6:47 AM

Carl, the numbers are also skewed because they include those that don't have a "valid" ID, i.e. expired IDs and those that have had their license suspended or revoked. I think the actual number of people that function in today's society that do not possess and are unable to acquire an ID, and are voter eligible, is MUCH less than what is being reported by liberal sources.

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VinceKnauff

Sep-07-13 6:45 AM

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VinceKnauff

Sep-07-13 6:43 AM

If they can get to a polling place on election day and stand in line to register this way, they can get to the DMV or court house and get an ID in the weeks and months before election day. What is the problem with getting an ID? I am tired of the lame arguments the left bleats out against an ID law.

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