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September 8, 2013

Does anyone remember the late 60's and early 70's when the anti-war protests were extolling the fact that Vietnam was a civil war and we should not be involved? William Jefferson Clinton preached......

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Scott36

Sep-10-13 6:27 PM

Cricket, I know deflection, & changing topics are common neo-nut tactics, but at least try to stay somewhere near the question I asked of USABorn, if you want to comment.(I am sure you do not have an answer for it) If you want to discuss another topic, Just say so, Heck I'll even supply you with a brand new tin foil hat(I believe you may actually need a stainless steel version) if your old one is worn out!! How's that for trying to be nice?

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Scott36

Sep-08-13 3:24 PM

These are al qaeda rebels trying to put one over on the U.S. and Dumbama is gobbling it up hook line and sinker. Why? Because he is one of them and wants to!-USABorn

I usually take one's word for things, BUT claiming The President of The United States of America is a member of al Qaeda I believe needs to be challenged.

When and where & from whom did you learn of & become privy to this startling information? I believe you should contact Homeland Security and report it immediately!

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gavinf56

Sep-08-13 2:05 PM

Jerry, she sure came out in favor of intervention today. Supposedly the shocking video and pictures of the dead and dying changed her mind.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-08-13 1:54 PM

Gavin, Was Melissa Perry Harris pro missle strike today? She was not yesterday.

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USABorn

Sep-08-13 1:03 PM

A nun in Qara, Syria, claims that she has “evidence” proving video footage of the deadly chemical attack in Syria was fabricated. Mother Agnes Mariam el-Salib, mother superior of St. James Monastery, told Russia Today that she plans to submit her findings to the United Nations Human Rights Commission.

The key evidence is that Reuters made these files public at 6.05 in the morning. The chemical attack is said to have been launched between 3 and 5 o’clock in the morning in Guta. How is it even possible to collect a dozen different pieces of footage, get more than 200 kids and 300 young people together in one place, give them first aid and interview them on camera, and all that in less than three hours? Is that realistic at all? As someone who works in the news industry, you know how long all of it would take.

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USABorn

Sep-08-13 1:02 PM

The bodies of children and teenagers we see in that footage – who were they? What happened to them? Were they killed for real? And how could that happen ahead of the gas attack? Or, if they were not killed, where did they come from? Where are their parents? How come we don’t see any female bodies among all those supposedly dead children?

I am not saying that no chemical agent was used in the area – it certainly was. But I insist that the footage that is now being peddled as evidence had been fabricated in advance. I have studied it meticulously, and I will submit my report to the UN Human Rights Commission based in Geneva.

These are al qaeda rebels trying to put one over on the U.S. and Dumbama is gobbling it up hook line and sinker. Why? Because he is one of them and wants to!

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Capricorn1

Sep-08-13 1:00 PM

That should be cruise missile...

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Capricorn1

Sep-08-13 12:59 PM

Why the difference if they were to line up 1000 people and murder them, kill 1000 people with artillery fire, or kill 1000 people with chemical weapons? -Gavin

Gavin, I agree. It's being reported that over 100,000 civilians have been killed during this civil war in Syria. It seems ludicrous to me that those who want to strike now feel it's necessary because 1000 are killed with a different type of weapon. In the minds of the families that have lost loved ones, dead is dead. Yes, the use of chemical weapons is evil, but killing innocent civilians with conventional weapons is just as evil, even if they are a result of a misplaced cruise middle.

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gavinf56

Sep-08-13 12:08 PM

Apparently John Kerry was for the war before he was against the war before he was for the war.

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gavinf56

Sep-08-13 10:31 AM

Interesting how the MSNBC pundits, Steve Kornacki and MHP, appear to be pro-war now.

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gavinf56

Sep-08-13 9:10 AM

“Bashar al-Assad now joins the list of Adolf Hitler and Saddam Hussein who have used these weapons in time of war,” John Kerry told NBC’s “Face the Nation.”

So if he is like Hitler, why only the limited action?

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gavinf56

Sep-08-13 9:08 AM

There was no "response" from the US when Saddam Hussien used chemical weapons on the Iranian's during the Iran/Iraq war, nor was there a "response" when he used them on the Kurds.

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gavinf56

Sep-08-13 9:06 AM

Why the difference if they were to line up 1000 people and murder them, kill 1000 people with artillery fire, or kill 1000 people with chemical weapons?

There are international treaties against all 3? The ruthless murder of ones civilians is still murder no matter how it is done.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-08-13 8:29 AM

Didn't see the Bill Clinton trip to Moscow to Syrian war connection coming!

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Capricorn1

Sep-08-13 8:01 AM

Chuck, the military action they have planned will not eliminate the issues you raised. This whole exercise is a futile attempt to "send a message" knowing it will not remove current power or destroy their chemical weapon capabilities. How can you justify such action on the backs of our military being placed in harms way, along with many innocent civilians in Syria?

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Garben78

Sep-08-13 7:51 AM

And yes but who ordered this cocktail of chemical weapons? I believe we probe before we act and then put it to a vote

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CMReeder

Sep-08-13 7:39 AM

Chemical weapons were used but that isn't enough of a reason to act. No we will wait for information that Assad is amassing piles of WMDs and to use them against the US and Her Allies(Israel) and then we launch an invasion.

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eriklatranyi

Sep-08-13 6:35 AM

The evidence is not clear that the use of chemical weapons was ordered by the Assad administration.

(notice how we call it 'regime' when we do not like them?)

The rebels were losing ground and having international forces weaken Assad's military could not come at a better time.

So, the timing of the chemical attack is suspicious.

Liberals who complained about Bush43's WMD intelligence should be taking notice here.

But now it is one of theirs, so if we question anything, we must be racists.

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Capricorn1

Sep-08-13 6:25 AM

In all fairness Mr. Hartman, you are using propaganda by the Syrian government to discredit the U.S. government's propaganda. There are MUCH better arguments against military action that have debated nationwide. The best being, we, the American people, are firmly against it. If our representatives on Capitol Hill and the President listen to those who put them in office, military action would no longer be an option.

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MrShaman

Sep-08-13 6:24 AM

"Do you remember John Kerry bringing 5 men to testify at a Congressional hearing to tell their stories of the abuse and murder of peasants and children by our troops?" - Raymond Hartman

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You (QUITE-obviously) don't!

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See:

Special: Tiger Force - Toledo Blade

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MrShaman

Sep-08-13 6:02 AM

"Does anyone remember the late 60's and early 70's when the anti-war protests were extolling the fact that Vietnam was a civil war and we should not be involved? William Jefferson Clinton preached that message in the streets of Moscow?" - Raymond Hartman

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"....in the streets of Moscow?"

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B.S.

You're gonna have to come-up with some specific-dates, on that one.

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