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About the cats

September 10, 2013

I am writing this letter of concern to the writer of “Cat Concerns.” First of all, I'd like to say I am an animal lover....

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Garben78

Sep-11-13 8:52 AM

If the collars were deemed in humane they wouldn't be sold in all your local pet shops idiot

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Garben78

Sep-11-13 7:35 AM

Yeah pinecr must not be any gas stories to comment about and ps when you don't like your pet kitty anymore don't drop it at my farm as my dogs will just kill it. I'm thinking of posting a site with pictures of the cats my dogs kill so kids can see their pets mon and dad dropped at "a better place"

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Scott36

Sep-10-13 7:17 PM

rmiller,

You took my response :) I to use a "shock" collar. I (because of the remoteness of where I live) let my dog run ahead of me on the dirt roads, trails, etc. She is a great friend to me, and listens quite well. BUT every once and a while a "bunny" gets her excited, & if by chance a car is coming, I would rather her get a mild "shock" than get hit. I believe it has been at least 2yrs. since she got the "shock" at most like Cap. says, the 2nd button which just gives a mild vibration. Used properly, they are great training tools.--Scott

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rmiller

Sep-10-13 5:34 PM

Tgrammiex4,

I would rather shock my dog into not biting or running away to the road, then have to pick up a dead dog from the shock of a V8 engine. Or, face a frivolous law suit in court over a small bite or worse.

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rmiller

Sep-10-13 5:32 PM

radioactive,

"shock collars" are frowned upon by animal lovers, who haven't figured out that people, were given dominion over animals, not the other way around. The Bible does speak to being kind to your "beast" but a shock collar" is a protective measure for all concerned and does not cause permanent damage.

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rmiller

Sep-10-13 5:29 PM

Excellent letter!

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Tgrammiex4

Sep-10-13 11:21 AM

enigma- most cats like bags (to play in) so maybe they're "baggers"

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Tgrammiex4

Sep-10-13 11:19 AM

pinecr- sense of humor missing this morning? Geeze, I'm thinking it was just a joke....

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pinecr

Sep-10-13 9:59 AM

erik....really, what a stupid post, but then I think about who is writing it and then I understand.

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enigma

Sep-10-13 9:55 AM

Are these conservative cats or liberal cats? Only moderate cats should be allowed to roam free.

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Capricorn1

Sep-10-13 8:23 AM

Tgrammie, everyone has their preference. I think training collars get a bad rap because everyone refers to them as shock collars. My oldest lab hasn't worn hers since she was three and I only had to use the electric current setting twice in all the years I had her. We also have a lab that's just over a year and we don't even turn the collar on for her anymore. We can leave her outside and she never leaves the yard. When people walk by in the neighborhood with their dogs, she will just sit at the edge of the yard and watch them. She doesn't run out to them or even bark. All the neighbors are amazed at how well they both listen. When used properly, these training collars IMO can't be beat when training your dog.

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Tgrammiex4

Sep-10-13 8:14 AM

Cap, maybe 'm just a softee when it comes to my dogs, and cats for that matter.Mine are 12 & 13, well beyond the training age.I personally would have never chosen to use a shock collar on them.They've always had a big fenced yard to run in. They are only on a leash for trips to the vet(omg, thats a hoot)

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Capricorn1

Sep-10-13 7:42 AM

You folks should do some research on the use of electronic training collars. First off the term "shock" collar is extremely bias and it leaves you with the image of extreme physical pain. I have never used an electronic fence, but I have used a remote training collar when training both of my dogs with huge success. Modern collars are designed where the trainer uses three levels of reinforcement. The first being a high pitch sound, the second is a vibration and the third if necessary is a low grade electric stimulation.

A "remote trainer" set on a low level emits 0.000005 joules (5 microjoules)

A "muscle stimulation machine" set on a "normal level" emits 2.0 joules. Set on a "high level" it emits 6.0 joules.

An electric fence energizer [a "charged fence" – not a pet containment system] emits 3.2 joules.

And yes, I tested the collar on my forearm at different levels in order to judge the intensity.

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Tgrammiex4

Sep-10-13 6:40 AM

There are so many other ways to train a dog, why would anyone want to inflict pain on thier dog by using a shock collar?

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ToTEXASfromPA

Sep-10-13 6:12 AM

I am wondering why I am reading this LTE and posts. I think that I will wander on to the next.

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eriklatranyi

Sep-10-13 5:38 AM

When I catch one of my children wondering, I beat them with enrolled-up newspaper.

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