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Attacks on gun ownership

September 13, 2013

They’re at it again. Two Democrat lawmakers are proposing steep new taxes on handguns and ammunition. The bill would raise the tax on ammunition to 50% and nearly double taxes on handguns....

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Garben78

Sep-13-13 4:21 AM

Typical of their type however it won't happen

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ArtFold

Sep-13-13 5:06 AM

Excellent letter, Mr. Rinker! Copies should be sent to legislators everywhere.

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ArtFold

Sep-13-13 5:09 AM

To radioactive; You ask, what do the poor own that needs protected from criminals? Well, their lives, for one thing.

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Capricorn1

Sep-13-13 5:32 AM

Liberal thinking is, they already give them a free phone, they can call the police for protection. Of course, once they are already mugged, raped or murdered, the police can ask them, how did that work out for ya.

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CarlHiller

Sep-13-13 5:37 AM

Well stated Paul! ArtFold, you beat me to it. Their own lives and their families lives are the most precious and valuable asset they may own and that alone is worth protecting.

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sideliner

Sep-13-13 6:10 AM

I agree that the proposed new taxes are a bit steep, but considering hand gun taxes have stayed the same since 1955 and ammunition taxes have not been raised since 1941, maybe it is time to make some adjustments.

I can't help but notice a tinge of sarcasm in this letter with the author's overwhelming concern for the poor's ability to arm themselves. I wonder if he same verve was present when the Farm Bill got passed but stripped of the Food Stamp program, the first that has happened in 40 yrs. I would hope the author would be as concerned about whether or not the poor can eat as he is about whether or not the poor can shoot...

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MrShaman

Sep-13-13 6:16 AM

"They're at it again. Two Democrat lawmakers are proposing steep new taxes on handguns and ammunition. The bill would raise the tax on ammunition to 50% and nearly double taxes on handguns. It would also increase the $5 transfer tax to $100." - Paul Rinker

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"The bill likely won't make it out of the Republican-controlled U.S. House -- but it has caught the attention of local firearms enthusiasts.

"We've heard of it, and a lot of people have been talking about it," said Vann Earhart, store manager of North Georgia Reloading and Accessories in Fort Oglethorpe."

See:

Gun, Ammunition Taxes Would Jump Under Federal Bill

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I think you can start breathing....again.

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leaningright

Sep-13-13 6:24 AM

Stop talking about your gun rights and join the NRA, do something constructive about the infringements on our gun rights instead of just complaining about it. Obama is working with the UN to further restrict your gun rights, do you really want the UN to have anythng to do with your gun rights? Join now and help fight the battle.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-13-13 6:31 AM

"you should start a campaign to raise money to buy a gun for the poor."

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Guns for the poor? There is an idea! Someone should write a letter to the editor about that.

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Capricorn1

Sep-13-13 6:31 AM

yeah, yeah, yeah. unless you've fired a weapon at someone, its tough to take someone's life. -Radioactive

Criminals don't have that opinion and you would be surprised at what your adrenalin allows you to do in life or death situations. It is the right of the citizens to make the decision to protect themselves and their families.

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Capricorn1

Sep-13-13 6:36 AM

I would hope the author would be as concerned about whether or not the poor can eat as he is about whether or not the poor can shoot... -Sideliner

I wonder if liberals are concerned about the fact that the welfare state keeps the poor, poor. Or is government dependence their goal?

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idiottwo

Sep-13-13 6:43 AM

why is it to modify actions, the answer is taxes? Sure high costs will reduce use and frequency of shooting. One might argue that may also result in less comfortable shooters (shooting sports types) so more risks of accidents. More hoarding of ammunition and firearms. Then it might be more likely these be found or stolen by criminals. If this issue to these people is reducing crime - be honest about it and look to the errosion of families, respect, community and employment. No, they won't do that. Too tough.

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Josh84

Sep-13-13 7:35 AM

radioactive Sep-13-13 6:03 AM*****

"the fear factor is so great, even if you are able to discharge the weapon, it will be a stray bullet."

You might want to tell this to the approx. 260 people a year ,that use a firearm as the instrument of justifiable homicide, across the United States.

FBI . Gov ****Expanded Homicide Data Table 15

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CMReeder

Sep-13-13 8:05 AM

First it isn't an attack on gun ownership, it is a tax proposal. Which has zero chance of passing! However that fact eludes the rabid NRA and gun rights advocates.

Democrats don't hate the poor but the right clearly does with every action it supports.

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MrShaman

Sep-13-13 8:14 AM

"Stop talking about your gun rights and join the NRA..." - leaningright

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Ah, yes...those (same) folks who insisted..."BILL CLINTON WILL TAKE YOUR GUNS & AMMO!!" & "AL GORE WILL TAKE YOUR GUNS & AMMO!!" & "JOHN KERRY WILL TAKE YOUR GUNS & AMMO!!" & "BARACK OBAMA WILL TAKE YOUR GUNS & AMMO!!"...soon, to be..."HILLARY CLINTON WILL TAKE YOUR GUNS & AMMO!!"

People would probably be better-served, looking for some org that's got a better track-record of psychic-predictions. gun-$hop owner$; not so much.

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MrShaman

Sep-13-13 8:18 AM

"yeah, yeah, yeah. unless you've fired a weapon at someone, its tough to take someone's life. this self-protection argument is so lame. the fear factor is so great." - radioactive

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Hey...ya' gotta admit...such tactic$ were awfully-profitable, during the biggest weapons scam/spending-spree, in the past....The Cold War!!

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MrShaman

Sep-13-13 8:25 AM

"you should start a campaign to raise money to buy a gun for the poor."

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Guns for the poor? There is an idea! Someone should write a letter to the editor about that." - JerryfromRI

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That might sound a "little" nutty...until you consider Iowa!!!

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See:

Iowa Issues Permits For The Blind To Carry Guns In Public

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enigma

Sep-13-13 8:29 AM

"yeah, yeah, yeah. unless you've fired a weapon at someone, its tough to take someone's life. this self-protection argument is so lame. the fear factor is so great." - radioactive

It should be tough to take someone's life, but for some people it is not. We call them violent criminals. In fact, for most of us it is just that 'fear factor' that would make it possible. I believe what you are referring to is not fear, but panic. Most people don't panic in a threat situation and fear causes the mind to focus on the situation. That's what causes the appearance of time slowing down. This gives the victim an advantage. You never know how you will react until you are put in that situation. If it happens, would you rather have the means to protect yourself or an armed policeman to investigate afterward?

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CarlHiller

Sep-13-13 8:29 AM

While it may have no chance of passing this example shows that the anti-gunners will not stop trying to infringe on the rights of those who want to own weapons. If they cannot control one way they'll continue to throw darts at the board until they get a bullseye. So, if you can't pass a bill to outlaw gun ownership, pass one that just taxes it out of existence. Who hates who here? Some of the most hateful, spiteful people I know are liberal democrats. To think that Republicans hate poor people, simply because of their political views is just plain ignorant. I have seen all too often leftists opinions formed purely on emotion, and not the facts. No matter what they say facts have no business in guiding an individual, or a government to a leftist.

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MrShaman

Sep-13-13 8:30 AM

yeah, yeah, yeah. unless you've fired a weapon at someone, its tough to take someone's life. -Radioactive

"...you would be surprised at what your adrenalin allows you to do in life or death situations." - Capricorn1

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Yeah...sure...just ask Trayvon Martin!!

Oh...wait....

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MrShaman

Sep-13-13 8:33 AM

I would hope the author would be as concerned about whether or not the poor can eat as he is about whether or not the poor can shoot... -Sideliner

I wonder if liberals are concerned about the fact that the welfare state keeps the poor, poor. Or is government dependence their goal?" - Capricorn1

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If it was, all the poor would enlist in the U.S. military.

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enigma

Sep-13-13 8:34 AM

Chuck, You may think it has zero chance of passing, but that is only because the people have let Congress know that we won't stand for this kind of thing. The very fact that this bill is there indicates that the desire to eliminate guns in private hands is alive and well in the halls of government. Like everything Progressives do, it is a gradual movement, but the stated goal is that only the government will have guns. That never works out well for the people.

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rick424

Sep-13-13 8:34 AM

Blah, Blah, Blah. Frankly I am tired of hearing about it.

This one kills me

"paul, the government gives the poor free money, free healthcare, free cell phones and service, free internet" Obviously this person has no clue.

Now on to more exciting things.

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johnnyad3

Sep-13-13 8:35 AM

Speaking of gun rights, Iowa is issuing gun permits to the blind.

Says one blind man:

"When you shoot a gun, you take it out and point and shoot, and I don't necessarily think eyesight is necessary," said Michael Barber, a blind man interviewed by The Register at a gun store in Iowa last month."

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CMReeder

Sep-13-13 8:38 AM

It is amazing how the right like Carl think they Vulcans, no emotions. Mention gun control, religion and abortion and watch their emotions unfold.

Carl the criminals come from the poor class according to the right. They don't buy guns like other people, so in essence the new tax would not affect them. They use the 'black market' for their gun purchases. The right doesn't care about the poor, they abhor them.

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