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September 14, 2013

Your editorial Sept. 3 about the Great Lakes water level and its relevance to global warming was nothing more than right- wing jibberish....

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Bufftrev1

Sep-15-13 9:51 AM

Erkilatryani, there was no consensus regarding WMDs. There was deliberately falsified intelligence.

Thank you.

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Bufftrev1

Sep-15-13 9:50 AM

Enigma, all, the answer, the overwhelming evidence you seek, is all around you. Look to nature. Look animal migratory patterns. look at the plant kingdoms reproductive cycles. Mother nature has answered the question for us.

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gavinf56

Sep-15-13 7:49 AM

From the NYT's article "Regarding the question of how much the planet could warm if carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere doubled, the previous report largely ruled out any number below 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit. The new draft says the rise could be as low as 2.7 degrees, essentially restoring a scientific consensus that prevailed from 1979 to 2007."

I find this part to be very telling "..essentially restoring a scientific consensus that prevailed from 1979 to 2007." You know, the projection before the alarmists went crazy.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-15-13 7:34 AM

Search for "Climate Panel Cites Near Certainty on Warming" to read how the NYT reported on the same summary report.

The source matters!

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eriklatranyi

Sep-15-13 6:31 AM

Jerry:

There was consensus that Sadaam Hussein had WMDs.

Thank you.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Sep-14-13 10:55 PM

"The Earth is 6000 years old."--JerryFromRI

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Jerry, I see that you are a young earth creationist. Then you would probably be praying to God the creator and sustainer of life that He provide rain, sun, heat, cold, etc to provide for our needs.

We still need to be good stewards of this world.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-14-13 10:06 PM

"..and you would be wrong"

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"global warming could be a good thing."

vs.

"It is significant because it points to the very real possibility that, over the next several generations, the overall effect of climate change will be positive for humankind and the planet."

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JerryfromRI

Sep-14-13 9:43 PM

Hey Gavin. Well, wouldn't be the first time. I'll check out your article.

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gavinf56

Sep-14-13 9:34 PM

"I did not read the story. If I had to take a guess, I would speculate the story's theme is something like: suspicion of global warming continues to grow, even if true, global warming could be a good thing." - JerryfromRI

..and you would be wrong. It was an article about a report from a Government agency to be released next week.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-14-13 9:26 PM

" ...you want every person in the world to change their way of life?"

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Correct.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-14-13 9:24 PM

"Still waiting for some of that overwhelming evidence"

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arstechnica |dot| com then enter 'climate change' in the search box, choose from the more than 15,000 articles about the subject.

Enjoy.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-14-13 9:15 PM

"Glaciers covered Lycoming County 15,000 - 20,000 years ago; who created all the green house gases to cause them to melt? Answer that."

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The Earth is 6000 years old.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-14-13 9:13 PM

"So JerryfromRI, by default that means the story is false? Everything Rupert Murdoch is false"

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If I wanted to promote a social safety net addenda, choosing MSNBC as a source might make my promotion suspect to claims of biased.

IMHO choosing a News Corp. product as a climate change source of information may be subject to the same claim.

I did not read the story. If I had to take a guess, I would speculate the story's theme is something like: suspicion of global warming continues to grow, even if true, global warming could be a good thing.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-14-13 9:04 PM

Sorry for the silence Enigma, we went out to dinner with some friends. You're welcome to tweet at me for a quicker response.

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enigma

Sep-14-13 8:42 PM

Jerry, Still waiting for some of that overwhelming evidence. The silence is deafening. No evidence and you want every person in the world to change their way of life? Maybe you should be the one writing the letter to future generations telling them why you wanted to ruin their lives.

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JohnZook

Sep-14-13 8:11 PM

Dudes & Dudettes- Saw a documentary on the effect of the glaciers on the landscape of the Great Lakes and they postulated that the bottom of the lakes were actually rising in response to the absence of the weight of the ice. Their theory, not mine.

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VinceKnauff

Sep-14-13 7:01 PM

Fortunately, the ship traffic, air traffic, and Satellite photographs all show that ice cap is back to where it was pre Al Gore.

Want more proof that the Warmers are hoaxers? This news should make them happy, knowing that the polar ice caps are in fine shape and size. Are they happy to learn that?

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ToTEXASfromPA

Sep-14-13 5:32 PM

JerryfromRI,

I have wrote/asked this before.......

Glaciers covered Lycoming County 15,000 - 20,000 years ago; who created all the green house gases to cause them to melt? Answer that.

I think the earth goes through cycles, much of which is caused by variations in solar energy and volcanic activity. I remember reading some years back that some of the data set for declaring earth warming was because some of the sensors used to be in rural areas but as the concrete of the cities encroached and the grass and trees was reduced, these local readings were warmer and people didn't make the proper adjustments with this data.

My thoughts..........

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JerryfromRI

Sep-14-13 4:59 PM

Siting the WSJ as a news source is equivalent to siting Fox News (Same owner).

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gavinf56

Sep-14-13 4:15 PM

Google "Dialing Back the Alarm on Climate Change", yesterdays edition of the WSJ.

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enigma

Sep-14-13 3:49 PM

Jerry, You are asking us to make changes that will kill the economy, yet you refuse to present your evidence. Instead you want us to buy into a consensus of scientist who are all paid for by the same government who will benefit from these changes. I see that you cannot justify yourself. You have no evidence. No one does, because there isn't any. There was a warming trend for about 15 years, but in the last 15 years is has been cooling again. NASA has new evidence that CO2 does not trap nearly as much heat as previously thought, but that news didn't make the main stream news because it doesn't support the accepted story. It's a scam and it's up to the side that want changes to prove that they are necessary. Again I ask, where is your overwhelming evidence.

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VinceKnauff

Sep-14-13 3:19 PM

Global Warming zealots are no different than religious extremists. And Al Gore is their messiah.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-14-13 12:56 PM

Enigma wrote his letter. Who is next?

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enigma

Sep-14-13 12:40 PM

Jerry, I have a better idea. Tell me about this overwhelming evidence. I've seen the evidence. It is not overwhelming and is largely fictional. You and those sheeple like you would wreck the world economy on made up evidence and baseless hysteria. If you really look into it, the science is not on your side. But go ahead, show me your evidence, and I'm not talking about news stories about consensus. That's not evidence.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-14-13 11:52 AM

The same folks who once told us the evidence that tobacco use was harmful was inconclusive are them same folks who not long ago insisted the polls were skewed. They are the very same folks who ignore the overwhelming evidence that climate change is real.

I urge you to write letters to your unborn sons and daughters, grandsons and granddaughters explaining your opposition to taking action today to stop climate change. Go ahead, list out your reasons, let them know why you believe what you do.

Then, at some time in the future, they can read the letters and know who to blame for doing nothing.

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