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His red line

September 15, 2013

Nobody talks about the red line that President Obama crossed. Just like meathead from All in the Family....

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rick424

Sep-16-13 8:19 PM

You bet I am.

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rick424

Sep-16-13 11:25 AM

"Yes, this administration bungled Syria horribly."

Actually I think they did quite well on this. Time will tell. But if it goes the way I think it will then Obama will come out on top. Heaven forbid if that would happen. Hillary 2016.

Loved this headline

"Poll: Hillary Clinton Steamrolls Dems; GOP Appears Rudderless Heading Into 2016"

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Capricorn1

Sep-15-13 5:34 PM

Erik, the Iran situation is a totally different animal. The capability to deliver nuclear weapons is a threat to our national security. Syria is a civil war where nothing good could be accomplished by getting involved. Helping the rebels could result in indirectly supporting Al Qaeda. We sat back and watched the slaughter of 100k people, yet when 1400 are killed with chemical weapons, we feel we have to get involved for the mere purpose of sending a message. Not to remove power and not to eliminate their chemical weapon capability. The American people spoke loudly against it, and rightly so.

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eriklatranyi

Sep-15-13 4:46 PM

Now it appears Putin is heading to Iran to protect their nuclear program.

Obama will give-in, of course, trusting an alliance of the Russians and Iranians.

Well, for those that didn't want the US to be the world's policeman, how do you feel about turning the job over to Russia?

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Capricorn1

Sep-15-13 1:34 PM

If the President really wants to be a diplomat, he would insist on speeding up the destruction of the remaining 10% of chemical weapons that the U.S. still has in inventory, that was suppose to be destroyed by April 2012 in accordance with the Chemical Weapons Convention. He should be setting the example.

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Capricorn1

Sep-15-13 1:22 PM

You mean...BESIDES (finally) putting an END to BU$HCO's Middle East debacle???? Shaman

Again, check your reading comprehension. I specifically mentioned Iraq.

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Capricorn1

Sep-15-13 1:07 PM

I guess YOU must have blinked (yourself), when John McCain was...as usual...pushing to jump-into one-MORE-War. Shaman

Check your reading comprehension Skippy, I said both democrats and REPUBLICANS were divided. I wasn't surprised to see McCain and some other cowboys foaming at the mouth to go to war. What did surprise me was seeing blinded support to the President for war despite what their constituents were telling them. I was just happy to see that the majority of democrats and republicans listened to the people.

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Capricorn1

Sep-15-13 1:02 PM

Yea ok Shaman, that was exactly his plan. LoL whatever, but if that's the story you have to hang on to in order for you to protect his image in your mind, then so be it. But the truth of the matter is, Putin acted on a gaffe by Kerry and called him out on it. The president in no way had anything to do with this possible resolution. Putin saw a chance to make Obama look weak and he pounced on it. Putin is the one saying check and mate.

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MrShaman

Sep-15-13 12:31 PM

"The sad thing is, if this political solution with Syria is a success, Obama will take full credit, when in reality he did NOTHING. Why wasn't this path taken long ago..." - Capricorn1

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It WAS!!!! Have you forgotten...ALREADY??!!!

The President voiced his preference to punish Syria...knowing, FULL-AND-WELL, Republicans would insist on the OPPOSITE!!!

I'd say that was...Check...and, MATE...for The President!!!!!!!

You Republicans got SKUNKED!!!!!!!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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MrShaman

Sep-15-13 12:26 PM

"Chuck, I guess you have had your eyes closed during this whole evolution. Both democrats and republicans were divided and the majority of the people, both republicans and democrats were against any military response." - Capricorn1

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I guess YOU must have blinked (yourself), when John McCain was...as usual...pushing to jump-into one-MORE-War.

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MrShaman

Sep-15-13 12:22 PM

"Just stay out of Syria period!!!" - Garben78

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After all...we've got our OWN religious-"war", to deal with, presently!!!

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MrShaman

Sep-15-13 12:19 PM

protecting the world and our interests. -Reeder

It's not our job to protect the world and what interests do we have in that region besides oil?" - Capricorn1

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You mean...BESIDES (finally) putting an END to BU$HCO's Middle East debacle????

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MrShaman

Sep-15-13 12:16 PM

"Obama is working for the oil companies. He encourages/creates destabilization of governments in Egypt and Libya. Iraq isn't much better. Oil output is falling like a rock in Libya and oil price goes up in the world." - ToTEXASfromPA

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Has your "bailing" (to Texas) made you THAT clueless??????

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See:

U.S. Oil Notches Record Growth

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farmer

Sep-15-13 12:14 PM

I don't want us to start lobbing cruise missiles, but just for the record people, this conflict has been going on for over two years, and until this month we have used only diplomacy.

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MrShaman

Sep-15-13 12:12 PM

"I don't care what the President might have done regarding Syria. Republicans would criticize it." - sideliner

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Exactly. How ELSE can you (possibly) explain their ire over the President making them full-partners in coming-up with a solution...and, VOTING on that solution?

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MrShaman

Sep-15-13 12:08 PM

"The rebel factions are a mix of Islamic groups. If a moderate group comes to power, it might change its alliances with more radical groups just to hold power." - eriklatranyi

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...And, what better example (of that), could there possibly BE, than the Republican Party pandering to the T-Baggers?

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MrShaman

Sep-15-13 12:05 PM

"The sad thing is, if this political solution with Syria is a success, Obama will take full credit, when in reality he did NOTHING." - Capricorn1

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'Tis true. Expecting Republican-congressmen to get (equally) involved WAS (probably) his bigger mistake.

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MrShaman

Sep-15-13 12:02 PM

"And then we can deal with all those phoney scandals." - Jon Michael Hasselman

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...Not-to-mention all the NEW phoney-scandals "conservative"-congressmen/FAUX Noise/Porky Limbaugh/The New York Post will dream-up...to avoid all the effort (required), dealing with actual/EXISTING-problems.

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Capricorn1

Sep-15-13 11:06 AM

The sad thing is, if this political solution with Syria is a success, Obama will take full credit, when in reality he did NOTHING. Why wasn't this path taken long ago and part of the talks when he met with Putin? His flip flopping accomplished nothing but showing this country's weakness. Any good leader knows you always try every diplomatic alternative before threatening military force. By threatening force first and then offering a diplomatic solution, your appear like you are backing down. Not an image you want to show Iran and our other enemies. The threat of force next time won't look so threatening.

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Capricorn1

Sep-15-13 10:58 AM

Chuck, I guess you have had your eyes closed during this whole evolution. Both democrats and republicans were divided and the majority of the people, both republicans and democrats were against any military response. And ya know what, the opinion of most Americans is the right opinion. Do you think maybe Americans saw the mistakes made in past conflicts and learned from them? Do you think maybe Americans are tired of fighting other nation's battles? Unlike you, I applaud both democrats and republicans who stood up for the people that put them in office and said enough is enough. Stop towing the party line, your blind faith in the president and everything he does or doesn't do is quickly making you the minority. People are fed up on both sides of the aisle.

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CMReeder

Sep-15-13 10:40 AM

Nice going there Capricorn1. It is the republicans who are now divided over what to do, just showing the growing hypocrisy of the right.

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CMReeder

Sep-15-13 10:37 AM

"There are plenty of Democrats criticizing the president, but sideliner ignores those like the slimy, hypocritical liberal he is."

Funny Eric but you are the biggest hypocrite of all.

Not too long AGO A LOT OF POSTERS HERE WERE IN FAVOR OF BOMBING IRAN! Why!? Because they are supposedly making nuclear weapons.

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eriklatranyi

Sep-15-13 10:30 AM

sideliner demonstrates his lack of any credibility.

There are plenty of Democrats criticizing the president, but sideliner ignores those like the slimy, hypocritical liberal he is.

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Garben78

Sep-15-13 9:34 AM

Just stay out of Syria period!!!

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Capricorn1

Sep-15-13 9:32 AM

protecting the world and our interests. -Reeder

It's not our job to protect the world and what interests do we have in that region besides oil? If I recall, we made this same mistake in Iraq and many other areas of the world because we feel we have to be the world's peace keepers. It's time we start using our military for our national security and not the security of other nations. We concentrate on the borders of others while our borders are left wide open allowing for anyone to pass that may want to do us harm. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars on military bases overseas that long wore out their purpose except to bolster economies world wide while we close bases within our own nation. I say let the UN worry about world peace and security and let other nations do their part.

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