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September 15, 2013

I wasn't at the Pennsylvania Energy Games the whole day but when I was there a man who got up on stage before the performers started singing and one thing he said stuck in my head for awhile....

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LeisureSuitLarry

Sep-15-13 5:46 AM

You don't misunderstand them, a lot of us refer to them as gasholes, and for good reason.

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eriklatranyi

Sep-15-13 6:17 AM

Lori:

You and people like LeisureSuitLarry are the real gasholes.

You call landlords greedy for accepting higher rents, but I bet you never turned down a pay increase offered to you.

I guess you're a greedy, selfish pig as well.

Who is wrong, the person who rides your bumper or the person in the passing lane going slower than the traffic in the right lane?

No, Lori, we never had idiotic drivers here before the gas industry.

Perhaps you are just not accustomed to those who have a job and are trying to show up on time?

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eriklatranyi

Sep-15-13 6:19 AM

Oh, and Lori, since you attended the Energy Games, did you pay extra to offset the discount provided by gas industry donations?

Or are you just a hypocrite who takes for yourself and hates others who take for themselves?

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gavinf56

Sep-15-13 6:39 AM

"Not only that, but they think they own the roads too. They think they can drive however they want, riding on people's bumpers and just plain old driving like idiots." - Lori Tawney

My experience driving between Avis and Williamsport, those drivers are the locals.

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Premier

Sep-15-13 6:51 AM

Lori, I am more afraid of soccer moms in a mini van that I am of the gas well people. Like Gavin said, drive that stretch around 6:30AM or back between 3 and 5 for an eye opening experience.

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Premier

Sep-15-13 6:56 AM

"I'm not sure what he meant but I disagree with him."

Your argument was lost before it began. This is like saying "I'm not sure what I'm looking at but I know what I'm seeing".

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ToTEXASfromPA

Sep-15-13 8:49 AM

Lori,

What you are describing is what happens when two cultures come together or when there are changes in society. Many times both sides need to learn about each other and try to coexist.

Think about what it must have been like when automobiles were first coming on the scenes a hundred years ago. People with horse drawn wagons and buggies didn't like the automobile and people in the automobiles wanted the horses to get out of the way. But they learned to live together.

What about the canals, the railroads, roads, bridges, the woolen mills, Sprout Waldren's, Koppers, Wire Rope, Lycoming Mall, Etc? They all had impacts to the people and communities around them. Some were positive and some were negative but we learn to coexist.

Love God, Love People!

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CMReeder

Sep-15-13 8:57 AM

LOL

I see the pro gassies did not like this letter.

Gas drilling has created problems but as usual the pros will ignore it and downplay it. With Eric yelling hypocrite or liberal.

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CMReeder

Sep-15-13 8:59 AM

It is just a culture class!

What greed versus sensible!

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Garben78

Sep-15-13 9:29 AM

Reeder you and the LTE writer really think these problems didnt exhaust 5 years ago before gas got here? You think that you truly are neither liberal, conservative or anything along them lines you truly are a idiot

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Garben78

Sep-15-13 9:32 AM

Exist not exhaust sorry to the grammar nazis

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Capricorn1

Sep-15-13 9:42 AM

Gas drilling has created problems but as usual the pros will ignore it and downplay it. -Reeder

Chuck do you think about the problems that foreign oil has caused when you fill your vehicle? The thousands of lives that have been lost, all in the name of foreign oil? Did you worry about those problems in other states BEFORE they came to our back yard?

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gavinf56

Sep-15-13 9:58 AM

Interesting how the "anti-gas" crowds resentment towards the "gas workers" takes on the same arguments as the resentment towards other groups based upon race, gender, religion, etc. All of the areas ill's suddenly become magnified and the fault of the new group of people as if there was never a problem before they showed up.

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underwood

Sep-15-13 10:15 AM

Lori and others of like mind are quite vocal about what they perceive as problems brought about by the influx of gas workers and the industry, but one has to wonder what they think should be done to “correct” those “problems.”

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eriklatranyi

Sep-15-13 10:34 AM

Gavin:

I have commented before that the hatred of the gas industry is akin to racism. It is the same, close-minded, ignorant thinking that we saw from liberal Democrats against black citizens.

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eriklatranyi

Sep-15-13 10:38 AM

Phil:

Their solution is to get rid of the "outsiders", but lament the loss of revenue.

These are people who are jealous of landowners who became wealthy from leases and businesses that prospered due to the increased activity.

They love to point and yell "greed" only because they did not have the work ethic to make money from the boom.

Lastly, I have heard liberals claim that mineral and hydrocarbon rights should belong to "all the people" not just landowners.

This is the level of sickness to which these people will stoop.

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rick424

Sep-15-13 11:52 AM

"What about the canals, the railroads, roads, bridges, the woolen mills, Sprout Waldren's, Koppers, Wire Rope, Lycoming Mall, Etc? They all had impacts to the people and communities around them. Some were positive and some were negative but we learn to coexist."

Sacrificial lambs for the good of the cause. Just as long as it is not me.

Erik, you maybe the mineral rights owner but not the land owner, just look at what is going on this area. I feel all in the state should benefit from the mineral rights.

"Love God, Love People! '

May God love the people who are destroying the world we live in.

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underwood

Sep-15-13 12:01 PM

Erik, I agree, but I’d still like to hear one of them explain just what they’d like to see happen to accomplish getting rid of the problems they perceive. Lamenting about perceived problems ought to be followed by a course of action to correct those problems; something sorely lacking in the posts and arguments of many.

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enigma

Sep-15-13 2:26 PM

"I'm not sure what he meant but I disagree with him."

Really? Did you really mean to say that you don't know what you're talking about, but here it is? And then to top it off you follow it up with contradiction after contradiction. You're all for people having high paying jobs, but they shouldn't be allowed to live in houses? People who work in the gas industry are jerks except for the ones you know? Why don't people read their letters before they submit them? Oh well, she probably wouldn't have noticed anyway. That's how it is with hypocrites.

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Tedeaux

Sep-15-13 3:53 PM

My family and I transferred here two years ago from Louisiana with an oilfield service company. I remember the economic crash back in the mid '70s where we had an invasion of "snowbirds" that came to South Louisiana looking for oilfield jobs working in the Gulf because it was booming. Guys from Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, New York and even PA. They came and accepted the grueling work and learned what Cajun food was all about. Because they liked it, they must have told the folks back home about it, because Cajun was hot everywhere! Because it became so popular so fast, the prices sored. We got used to it and adjusted with our new Yankee neighbors hen house ways. When the President started playing politics with my job in the Gulf, I could have sat home in Louisiana and drawn a big fat unemployment check off of the Federal Government, but I chose to uproot my family and move 1400 miles from my older children and my aging parents and work for my paycheck. If you didn't li

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Tedeaux

Sep-15-13 3:56 PM

If you didn't want us up here, you should have taken the job instead!

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eriklatranyi

Sep-15-13 5:01 PM

Rick:

Thanks for confirming that liberals have no respect for property rights, one of the most fundamental human rights.

Instead, I am sure you see healthcare as a human right.

Liberal thinking on display folks!

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Capricorn1

Sep-15-13 5:43 PM

Tedeaux, well said. I used to bartend part time a couple years ago and we had quite a few gas workers from out of town that came in. I spoke with them at length about the effect that the industry would have on the job market. All of them were in agreement about one fact, they were having problems finding local talent because they either didn't want to work the long hours or they couldn't pass the drug test. Many that were sent here temporarily ended up having to stay much longer.

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rick424

Sep-15-13 7:32 PM

Court of law, yea, good luck on that one. This industry has a strong foothold in this area. With the blessings of the politicians they can get away with a lot. As for tights, do I not have a right to piece and quite? or does my neighbor's rights trump mine? You guys and property rights. Whatever.

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underwood

Sep-15-13 7:54 PM

Now we not only have someone that doesn’t believe in property rights, he doesn’t believe in the legal system. Yea, discussing anything with someone with a mindset like that is truly pointless.

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