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Massive overhaul to fight crime proposed

September 15, 2013

Two Williamsport councilmen have introduced a proposal meant to strengthen neighborhoods and prevent heroin dealers from setting up base in the city....

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andy33

Sep-16-13 5:06 PM

Luey.....Love the posting signs idea!!!!

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Luey22

Sep-16-13 11:35 AM

This solution might cause landlords to pay attention to whom they rent to.....Williamsport (and their new task force) could start ceasing rentals where dealers are selling their merchandise. In turn sell the property and invest the money back into the local taxpaying government and newly formed task force. Maybe to help this process along....locals could start posting signs outside of these rentals and bring awareness to everyone.

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Luey22

Sep-16-13 9:29 AM

The issue---crime and drug dealers.

The solution---put up sensor lights and make the police well versed on city codes as to enforce them ????

If those "in charge" of our city don't want to deal with the real issue.....there will NEVER be any resolution. (they don't care where they go....just not Williamsport....sounds like passing the torch to me).

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greatvalue

Sep-16-13 8:25 AM

Think back when all this started, there lies the blame and they know who they are. who put the rehab in our town? They call Williamsport little Philly... Why, you can guess. Welfare is to easy to get, they say go to Williamsport for free money don't need to work relax all day..GREAT!!!

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streetmachine

Sep-15-13 9:35 PM

all the comes with in remove the source and you will a big difference it is all amoney makeing scam our town is broke revenue needs to be made it is time for change throw out the old put in the new

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ray6770

Sep-15-13 9:09 PM

LYCOMING HOUSING AUTHORITY

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MimLogue

Sep-15-13 8:22 PM

I only said good things I said I love you and repeated what you said back.YOU stated you were well paid and educated and i called you called you intelligent, what cha gettin so bent out of shape over.

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Garben78

Sep-15-13 6:39 PM

"Stop from setting up home" lol it's their playground already. Lol lol lol lol

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MoMRNRmR

Sep-15-13 5:48 PM

Now I will agree with Shirly's post earlier when she states: This thread typifies part of the problem we've got in this community. Geesh, we can't even get along on a comments section to an article about the drug problem we face. Come ON, folks. Drop all the personal vendetta garbage and address the issue.

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MoMRNRmR

Sep-15-13 5:31 PM

MimLogue, Like I stated before, stay on topic. Your problems r your problems, don’t project them unto me or others on this site. Your choice in life is to be a landlord, nobody on this site has said anything to you personal about that, U did. You have personally attack others, not the other way around. Get that straight! All I have done is to rearrange your words back to you; you don’t likeit? Sorry, but nobody should be subjected to your abuse for wanting to help out our town of Williamsport. Regardless of what I do for a living, what my education level is,how much my education cost, or whom I’m employeed by for a living; They have nothing to do with me posting in support of trying to get the Drugs out of our town. I’m in support of trying to win the “War on Drugs”! Stay on Topic. Enjoy the rest of your day and remember; Todays the day the Lord has made, let us be happy and glad. Peace.

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MimLogue

Sep-15-13 5:21 PM

andy..OK..we all know everything is all about you and your so cool....so can we all get back on point...and BTW...I love you

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MimLogue

Sep-15-13 5:18 PM

andy can I move in with you honey??

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fromtheport

Sep-15-13 5:11 PM

Andy33 u missed the point. The point was a city employee paid by tax dollars needs a vested interest in the welfare of the city. If the employee doesnt live in and cares about the city, the high crime is just job security for him. You can not expect people with investments in the city to live in the city, if we did that there would be no walmarts, lowes, tgi friday, kmart, sheetz, understand?

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andy33

Sep-15-13 3:43 PM

Mim...OK..we all know everything is all about you and your rentals....so can we all get back on point...and BTW...why don't YOU live in Williamsport?????

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MimLogue

Sep-15-13 2:58 PM

MoMRNRmRr2d2 the guy who pays u big money s as smart as u r, I am going out on a limb here, but i bet u work for the government

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MimLogue

Sep-15-13 2:55 PM

And now after all this we have one of our own, a city cop who does not have any monetary stake in this city, telling us we and our tenats are s second class citizens and need to register. Bringing our property values down and everythng we worked hard for by declaring us as low class. Jump in a lake Tim Miller!! and the mayor also if u support this. and that is being nice.

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MimLogue

Sep-15-13 2:48 PM

Landlords are responsible for everything in this town all the crime all the overdue water bills, all the trash, I am on video at the courthouse paying my 50k, in prop taxes, but according to some my tenants pay my taxes HAAA! What about all the tenants that have paid me half the rent this month because they couldn"t afford gas, or their car repair bill, or they got sick? or their 300$ water bill was due.Who paid the taxes,? mortgage, plumber, insurance utility ,trash man,cut grass this month? You dont have a clue!Why don"t we make tenants pay the tax,water,trash cut grass? landlords do it u know why ?? the tenants won"t,! Thats a fact jack!

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MimLogue

Sep-15-13 2:41 PM

Do u know how many times I have repainted recarpeted , replumbed building rework , rework, landlording is not an easy business, No landlord wants a medal or is asking to be called a hero but someone here is blaming all landlords with all the crime, after what I do all day I dont have time to fight crime

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MimLogue

Sep-15-13 2:38 PM

andlords pay most of the bills water police, fire we try to maintain our buildings and keep the properties clean, we are labeled as slumlords. If we work on our buildings and the tenants leave trash or break a window we are slumlords, We try to treat people fair when they are down on their luck giving tenants chances that we never get from our banks, we are abused by people who dont know us, we have to have thick skin, all we are trying to do is provide safe housing for families, We get aqbused by rich people mhmrrrxm r2d2 who wont even admit to his own identity

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fromtheport

Sep-15-13 1:56 PM

aretesancus "Your attempt to shift responsibility from the landlord to police and codes is misplaced and misinformed."

Well if the drug problem is because of landlords, why not throw the landlords in jail. We could board up all the real estate that they own, I never heard so many people criminalize a profession or investment like this. If landlord have so much power, the city should just start issueing handcuffs to landlords and let them arrest people.

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fromtheport

Sep-15-13 1:48 PM

Mim you actually have posted a valid point, city employees should have a vested interest in their community, a person living outside of williamsport would not have the same dedication to clean up the streets as a person that lives in the city and is directly affected by it. Maybe there should be a rule that city employees have to live within city limits or a 5 mile radius, that would ensure dedication to city problems along with tax dollars spent by the city to pay an employee to comeback to the city in the form of property tax, payroll taxes, shopping.

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ScienceIsKing

Sep-15-13 12:55 PM

How about we lock up the drug users and instead of the drug dealers? It's simple economics. If there is no demand, there is no supply. Pretty straightforward.

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andy33

Sep-15-13 11:08 AM

I digress....please go back and read the comment by z3r0c00l....that's the only sane thing to throw $$$$ at!!!!

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andy33

Sep-15-13 11:04 AM

Shirly...we need to stay on topic...thats the problem here on comments....going off on personal tangents ...what's that about anyway....STAY ON TOPIC.....

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aretesancus

Sep-15-13 11:01 AM

MsLogue: Your attempt to shift responsibility from the landlord to police and codes is misplaced and misinformed. In fact, the opposite of what you said is true. The landlord has more power than the police or codes to rid Williamsport of problem renters/tenants and Capt. Tim Miller has explained this principle many times, including on the City's website. Lease agreements give a landlord a broad spectrum of authority to evict, to include repeat contact with the police, evidence of drug activity, and complaints from neighbors. Lycoming Housing Authority, Timberland, and Williamsport Village management have figured this out within the past decade. But it requires the owner/manager of the property to be present, diligent, and not dependent on the government to do it for you.

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