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Municipalities mull pros, cons of area gas drilling

September 19, 2013

Community leaders say the Marcellus Shale industry has impacted the local area in both a positive and negative manner since drilling for natural gas began about five years ago....

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Judgeandjury

Sep-19-13 6:32 AM

Communities that are selling water, citizens that are working for therefore benefiting from the industry and acceptance of destroyed roads even if a few of them have been repaired? This is the cross section of folks from the communities they are considering? No mention of the hazards of the constant exposure to poisons from the industry, or the fantastic number of spills and other "accidents" that send these poisons into our environment. Personally I have seen a dramatic increase in offensively loud motorcycles with disrespectful riders and unnecessarily large four door diesel pick-ups with similarly disrespectful drivers who think it is acceptable to drive fast under extreme acceleration in order to make as much noise as possible. I read about or hear through the grapevine about destroyed property, rapes, drug crimes and other horrible behavior from employees of this industry, much of it covered up by the companies or the local law enforcement. There are many negatives

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Capricorn1

Sep-19-13 8:09 AM

Personally I have seen a dramatic increase in offensively loud motorcycles with disrespectful riders and unnecessarily large four door diesel pick-ups with similarly disrespectful drivers who think it is acceptable to drive fast under extreme acceleration in order to make as much noise as possible. I read about or hear through the grapevine about destroyed property, rapes, drug crimes and other horrible behavior from employees of this industry, much of it covered up by the companies or the local law enforcement. -Judgeandjury

I guess when you are so engrossed in rallying against a cause, every negative you see around you will be blamed on that cause.

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pinecr

Sep-19-13 9:06 AM

Hey Plankenhorn...don't make a statement that the gas industry has had a positive effect on all communities unless you have traveled to all communities, because in our community it has only been negative to say the least. And as for motorcycles and diesel pick up trucks, yes, I will say that our area has been impacted by the noise every day. It must be a requirement of the gas industry that they have to hire ******** who drive loud annoying pickup trucks or motorcycles with no baffles, just so they can make as much noise as possible. We have tons of them on the Pine Creek road.

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CitizenSane

Sep-19-13 9:44 AM

The cons: traffic, crime, noise, contaminations, reduction in air quality, reduction in property value, transient workers, loss of local jobs in tourism, agriculture, political corruption, increase of the homeless due to the housing shortage and increase in rent, loss of our sense of place and community, fragmentation of our forests, strain on emergency services, threats to public health and safety, divided communities. The pros:... still waiting.

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Garben78

Sep-19-13 10:47 AM

And only those with the gripe have no play in it at all where was you pinecr when they raped the land for coal? Or timber? You are nothing but a gashole

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Garben78

Sep-19-13 10:48 AM

No impact Cashera? The good no act 13 money for your borough

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BornHere

Sep-19-13 11:10 AM

I have security video from my former home of gas men trespassing on my property and leaving their garbage behind and running into my mailbox. I turned the video over to the State Police and they were arrested.

A friend of mine down the road from me had his front stone wall plowed into by a gas worker who was driving drunk which he also recorded. The company wanted to settle with him instead he reported it to his insurance company and the State Police. The driver was arrested for DUI and driving without a license and leaving the scene of an accident.

I have learned when you deal with this industry it is best to record or take pictures of what you have witnessed, that's all the proof you will need when they try to deny it.

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MisMac

Sep-19-13 11:49 AM

Cons...where to start? Well, I guess with the most important one. Countless families who have now lost their drinking water supply and the only ones that are helping them are the hundreds of volunteers across the state.

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pinecr

Sep-19-13 12:12 PM

Garben..sorry but I think I was too young when that all was happening!

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pinecr

Sep-19-13 12:16 PM

Accidents happen all the time by gas industry trucks that never get reported in the news, especially in the Sun Gazette or on WNEP 16, both huge supporters of the gas industry. I can't believe WNEP Channel 16 allows Cabot to advertise on their network when Cabot ruined all of the water wells for those poor people in Dimock and then would do nothing about it..not even pay to have their wells hooked up to the next town via pipeline. They have and will make millions more off of the gas wells and yet they turn their back on the people of Dimock...shame on them and shame on anyone that thinks this is ok.

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BilltownB

Sep-19-13 2:32 PM

To Pinecr.....wasn't it proven that those water wells in Dimock are fine? I think you fail to mention that both the DEP and the EPA are in agreement that the water in Dimock is fine. And have you been to Dimock lately, the vast majority of the town/area have pro industry signs in their yards in protest of the citizens involved.

As for motorcycles and trucks, it appears that you have run out of solid arguments and are now reaching to try to find something to blame the industry on. This one made me laugh...you can do much better than that!

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BornHere

Sep-19-13 3:29 PM

July 13, 2013

Dimock Gas Well Shut down due to Well Water Contamination.

The DEP has determined a natural gas well is not viable due to leaking methane.

Regulators said a frozen vent helped them identify the suspected gas well called CABOT'S COSTELLO 1

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rick424

Sep-19-13 4:25 PM

There also was some homes purchased by the gas industry that were torn down because of bad water. Also in one of my trips to Wellsboro there were 2 abandoned newer homes near a holding pond of some type. Not sure what that was about.

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weldnpipe

Sep-19-13 6:10 PM

So then why comment on something you admit you know nothing about, Rick424?

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rick424

Sep-19-13 6:28 PM

Maybe someone on here could tell why that is. I did say "Not sure what that was about"

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Judgeandjury

Sep-20-13 6:25 AM

BilltownB, what a sad statement. Because things don't bother you they are not important? What you call reaching is actually a statement of the negative impacts. The fact that you can't wrap your little mind around a concept, or more likely you are paid to ignore it does not make a subject irrelevant. I am glad you find it amusing. It is indicative of your ignorance. Bullies find horrible things funny and amusing too. Do you burn ants and torture pets? It seems to me the group that is reaching is the pro-gas industry folks that have run out of rationalizations to allow this industry to move forward. So now they simply attack, laugh and marginalize. Good work, very telling about your intellect and style.

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BilltownB

Sep-20-13 12:47 PM

Wow Judge and Jury tell me what you really think. I have never once personally insulted anyone on these links so for you to come out and say that just shows pure ignorance on your part my friend. My comments must have really bothered you, get over it! I'm still trying to figure out how burning ants and torturing pets have any relevance in this conversation; however, I do not burn ants nor torture any other animals for that matter.

I simply try to just state facts. I stated the fact that both the DEP and EPA this past year have said the water in Dimock is safe while Bornhere copied a link from 3-4 years ago.

For you to say that motorcycles and loud trucks are caused by the gas industry is very sterotypical. I'm sure there are many people that drive loud 4x4 trucks near Pine Creek because they need them to get to their homes in the winter. I doubt they all work for the gas industry. I'll be fly fishing there in a few weekends so I will make sure and keep track!!!

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BilltownB

Sep-20-13 1:31 PM

I apologize BornHere, my comment regarding youre article being 3-4 years old was inacurate.

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BornHere

Sep-20-13 1:43 PM

No problem, the article can be found in the Republican Herald July 13, 2013, "DEP: Natural gas driller will plug well involved in Methane investigation".

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