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Contagious attitude

September 22, 2013

Quotes from “What’s on your mind?”, such as our society has taught us to favor individuals over groups, which creates isolationism, because we have allowed ourselves to become puppets....

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mikekerstetter

Sep-22-13 2:41 AM

Weldon, Social Security was never meant to be your sole income upon retirement. And while there are some people who have retired out of necessity at 62 or 65, many of you retired simply because you didn't want to work any longer. Those of you in the latter group really have nothing to complain about if you retired before you had to with no other source of income or savings to get you through.

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Tgrammiex4

Sep-22-13 5:20 AM

mikekerstetter, you make it sound so easy.Keep in mind alot of us didn't have the benefit of higher education. We have worked our entire lives doing factory type work making slightly over min. wage. Many didn't get any kind of pension plan and didn't make enough to afford saving. Many entered retirement in the last 5 yrs. not by choice. If you lost your job because of the reccesion and exhausted your unemployment benefits, what other choice do you have but to start drawing your SS? Jobs are not easy to find these days, moreso if you're old.Please consider the bigger picture before to assume alot of us just didn't want to save for retirement.

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mikekerstetter

Sep-22-13 6:33 AM

Grammie, I highly doubt that someone who entered into retirement in the last 5 years is making $800/month like Weldons example. But even if you did retire because you lost your job, what is holding you back from looking for something part time to supplement your income? The decision to collect Social Security early negatively impacts how much you collect per month.

Believe me when I tell you that I know there are many who never had two nickels to rub together after they paid their bills on pay day. What I am saying, though, is that some of you only made your problem worse when you voluntarily left the workforce early.

And I see a LOT of older people working part time jobs in retail stores and fast food restaurants, especially early morning through early afternoon. My father-in-law retired and got his CDL and drove school bus for a few years. If an older person is able and wants to work there are jobs available if they continue to seek them.

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MrShaman

Sep-22-13 6:50 AM

"We have been sucked into a competitive nature to do better financially than anyone around us.

We are retired, unable to no longer work, we are compelled to pay county and property school taxes and we are not gifted with food stamps. Until we are treated equal to other groups of Americans, don't expect us to condone the wishes or demands of others, unless our fate is taken into consideration." - Weldon C. Cohick Jr.

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You anti-Capitalists need to better-learn how to bow-down before the more-entitled!!!

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See:

US Income Gap Widest On Record

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gavinf56

Sep-22-13 7:00 AM

"See:

US Income Gap Widest On Record" - MrShaman

During the 2007-2009 Great Recession, Saez said, the 1-percenters saw their incomes slide 36.3 percent, while incomes of the 99-percenters fell 11.6 percent.

But between 2009 and 2011, the first two years of recovery, the top 1 percent saw their incomes climb an average 31.4 percent -- accounting for 95 percent of the total gain -- while the bottom 99 percent saw growth of 0.4 percent, Saez said.

"In sum, top 1 percent incomes are close to full recovery while bottom 99 percent incomes have hardly started to recover," Saez said.

See;

Obama Wins The Gold For Worst Economic Recovery Ever

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eriklatranyi

Sep-22-13 7:06 AM

Thanks, Gavin.

The liberal, Nobel Peace Prize winning, war-monger, President Obama has managed to make the wealthy even more wealthy while increasing the number under the poverty line.

Where do you think $85 billion per month is going that the Fed is pumping into our sytem?

It is propping up stocks, oil prices and other investments that benefit the wealthy.

Pesident Obama has done nothing for the working man.

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nobud74

Sep-22-13 7:07 AM

Unbelievable. Someone else with their hand out. I can't believe the people who want the govt to hold their hand and take care of them. To those of us who are still working and paying into the system, get some good sleep tonight so you can be more productive tomorrow. We have more to support.

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MrShaman

Sep-22-13 7:13 AM

"Believe me when I tell you that I know there are many who never had two nickels to rub together after they paid their bills on pay day. What I am saying, though, is that some of you only made your problem worse when you voluntarily left the workforce early." - mikekerstetter

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Your youth & inexperience are showing.

There was (nearly) an entire-generation, that'd chosen manufacturing as a long-term career...LIKE their parents, before them...in the late-'60s/early-'70s. There was no evidence NOT to make that choice!! That economy proceeded to ROLL-OVER, ON-TOP-OF-THEM...during the late-'80s/early-'90s...when those folks SHOULD-have-been experiencing their most-profitable years; regarding retirement-planning!!!

Very-FEW of these people CHOSE (what you call) "leaving the workforce early".

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MrShaman

Sep-22-13 7:15 AM

"We have more to support." - nobud74

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Bite the bullet. It's YOUR TURN!!

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MrShaman

Sep-22-13 7:20 AM

See;

Obama Wins The Gold For Worst Economic Recovery Ever - gavinf56

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You'd assumed it'd get EASIER, cleaning-up after the Bush-family??

You don't know Dumbya.

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See:

Obama Dismantles Republican Caucus Part 1 of 7 - YouTube

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CMReeder

Sep-22-13 7:21 AM

Isn't nice how the right leaves out their obstructionism and blatant call for for austerity as major causes of the poor recovery.

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MrShaman

Sep-22-13 7:24 AM

"Where do you think $85 billion per month is going that the Fed is pumping into our sytem?

It is propping up stocks, oil prices and other investments that benefit the wealthy." - eriklatranyi

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Those (same) "job-creators" you T-Baggers have BEEN defending; AD NAUSEAM!!!!!!!

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CMReeder

Sep-22-13 7:24 AM

Food stamps are not a 'gift'.

Pensions!? You mean the ones that had been raided by corporations and greatly devalued by the recessions of the financial markets.

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CMReeder

Sep-22-13 7:27 AM

Mr. Cohick supports a minimum wage increase for an adult but not a high school or college student working part time. That is not very adult of him.

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enigma

Sep-22-13 7:27 AM

The letter starts out complaining that people care about themselves more than groups, and ends with Weldon complaining that we don't give him enough. I guess all of the rambling in between was to keep us from noticing that. It didn't work. Weldon is a hypocrite.

BTW, What does "unable to no longer work" mean?

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MrShaman

Sep-22-13 7:31 AM

"Isn't nice how the right leaves out their obstructionism and blatant call for for austerity as major causes of the poor recovery." - CMReeder

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It's (quite) obvious they been involuntarily-attracted to "educated"-opinions.

After all...Porky Limbaugh DOES have 2 MONTHS OF COLLEGE, "under his belt"...or, where-ever he fits it.

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nobud74

Sep-22-13 7:37 AM

Shamturd says to bite the bullet, it is our turn to support everyone. Hey, poop breath, I have worked since I was 10 years old, all through high school while playing and lettering in 3 sports, all through college and paid for my own school, the business I now own, I paid bought, nobody gave it to me and I intend to work for another 15 years. So, pardon me if I grouse about the freeloaders who whine about not having enough govt assistance. If you have time and energy to get on a public site and grump about it, get off your backside and make it happen for yourself. I have earned the right to be indignant when I am expected to keep financing bad personal decisions.

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JerryfromRI

Sep-22-13 7:41 AM

"This should have taken place before Joe Paterno was wrongly humiliated and chastised publicly..."

He should have called the police. You're right about him being wrongly humiliated, the Puritans knew how to do it right.

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Tgrammiex4

Sep-22-13 7:43 AM

Mr. Reeder, I can remember when I was a Teen, out in Calif. there WAS a lower min. wage for teens.It was assumed they weren't supporting a family and it encouraged employers to hire teens.

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mikekerstetter

Sep-22-13 7:50 AM

MrShaman-"Very-FEW of these people CHOSE (what you call) "leaving the workforce early"."

If they were able to keep working but retired at 62 (or even 65) they CHOSE to retire early. Had they kept working, for even a few more years, their monthly draw amount from Social Security would have increased. Those who were/are able but unwilling to seek supplemental employment income after collecting Social Security have a solution to their dilemma if they choose to take it.

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Tgrammiex4

Sep-22-13 7:55 AM

Nobud, as a disabled/retired person I can tell you that I'm not looking for a gov't. handout. My disability was caused from 38 yrs. worth of physically back-breaking work.I am left with perm. injured back & legs and constant pain. This wasn't my plan. Intended to work as long as I could.I do get SSDI.I look for no other "handouts". I paid into SS for 38 yrs.and I feel what I receive, i paid for.

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Capricorn1

Sep-22-13 7:55 AM

Not everyone that is on a fixed income of social security chose that path. My father worked for years at the old Kellogg plant on Reach road and he lost everything including his pension very close to his retirement and he had to start over. My mom was a stay at home mom with five kids. She's now 80 and my father is gone and I'm helping to support her. No, maybe social security wasn't designed as a sole means of support, but for many it is and at no fault of their own.

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gavinf56

Sep-22-13 8:20 AM

"You mean the ones that had been raided by corporations and greatly devalued by the recessions of the financial markets." - CMReeder

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See:

Stock Market Closes At Record High - Sept. 19, 2013

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gavinf56

Sep-22-13 8:25 AM

"Isn't nice how the right leaves out their obstructionism and blatant call for for austerity as major causes of the poor recovery." - CMReeder

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See;

The Worst Economic Recovery in History - WSJ

"It would be difficult to argue that government polices over the past three years have enhanced confidence in the U.S. business environment. Threats of higher taxes, the constantly increasing regulatory burden, the failure to pursue an aggressive trade policy that will open markets to U.S. exports, and the enormous increase in government spending all are growth impediments. Policies have focused on short-run changes and gimmicks—recall cash for clunkers and first-time home buyer credits—rather than on creating conditions that are favorable to investment that raise productivity and wages."

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JohnZook

Sep-22-13 8:29 AM

"By the way, what does 'not being able to work' mean?" Enigma.

What a callous, child-minded statement from an adult. In case you don't understand, working people get hurt on the job and they also suffer from health problems. In my case my lungs don't work very well. Yes I would rather be out there working but I can't breathe. I hope you can work until you're 70 or more. You deserve it.

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