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Mental health ignored

September 22, 2013

In the latest news, we hear of another killer who had mental issues that went unreported. Neither the military or doctors could forewarn others due to the HIPPA law....

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CMReeder

Sep-22-13 6:16 PM

"Thanks for summing up my political affiliation for me. I feel better knowing that."

You have no problem summing up me so I returned the favor and you are welcome.

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CMReeder

Sep-22-13 6:15 PM

The way the gun right advocates talk they are on a verge of a mental breakdown. They may not have been 'mental' when they first purchased a gun but they do become 'mental' later on.

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enigma

Sep-22-13 1:34 PM

" Let us not forget that you support their right to defend themselves with guns."-Chuck

I don't know anyone who supports the rights of people with dangerous mental illness to own guns. I support the right of responsible citizens to own guns. If you prove that you are not responsible by committing a crime, or if it can be shown that you are not responsible by reason of mental illness, then that right no longer exists for you. It is the second case that government has ignored. It is a very tricky subject and would be hard to legislate and harder to implement, but right now, no one is even trying. It is easier to just say, take guns away from everyone, but easier doesn't make it right. So once again Chuck, you have it all wrong.

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rick424

Sep-22-13 11:36 AM

"I have no problems with anybody invading my privacy, except those who wish to do bodily harm to me, of course."

How would know until it is too late? What a dumb letter, Ida never disappoints. Equally dumb comment about liberial doctors. Even more reasons why I am proud to be a liberal.

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Capricorn1

Sep-22-13 11:19 AM

Sorry but you are not that much of an indpendent. Reeder

Thanks for summing up my political affiliation for me. I feel better knowing that.

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CMReeder

Sep-22-13 10:46 AM

Sorry but you are not that much of an indpendent.

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Capricorn1

Sep-22-13 10:29 AM

In my opinion Capricorn you are as blind as he is. Reeder

Chuck you are welcome to your opinion. One of my beliefs as an Independent is that government has become too massive and nothing is getting accomplished as a result of extreme partisanship on both sides of the aisle and career politicians that are lining their pockets. Maybe you feel I am more critical of the democrats, but that's only because there is a democrat in the White House and I strongly object many of his policies. I was just as critical with Bush who sent my son to Iraq four times for his personal vendetta. In other words, I am against this bloated government as a whole that is out of control.

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CMReeder

Sep-22-13 8:28 AM

Back to the letter.

Mental health and what are you willing to do about it other than blame them for all the ills in the world. Let us not forget that you support their right to defend themselves with guns.

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CMReeder

Sep-22-13 8:26 AM

Capricorn 1 posts;

Unfortunately, there are liberal doctors who would report their conservative patients out of spite. -Erik

You don't truly believe that do you?

Did you not know that Eric sees liberals as the cause for every bad thing in the world? Did you not notice his heavy conservative political bias. In my opinion Capricorn you are as blind as he is.

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Capricorn1

Sep-22-13 8:00 AM

Unfortunately, there are liberal doctors who would report their conservative patients out of spite. -Erik

You don't truly believe that do you?

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eriklatranyi

Sep-22-13 7:55 AM

Unfortunately, there are liberal doctors who would report their conservative patients out of spite.

If Obama-care progresses, patients will be treated more and more just like the IRS treated Tea Party groups.....with full consideration of political affiliation.

Since less than 0.1% of all murders in the last 30 years were the result of mass shootings (source: FBI), these are events over-hyped by the media.

Yes, before we destroy doctor-patient confidentiality, let us look at strengthening the reporting system for crimes and ensure existing background checks are worthwhile.

The Navy Yard shooting was a case of the gov't not being able to protect its own, despite multiple layers of security and background checks.

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enigma

Sep-22-13 7:55 AM

There is a law that requires medical personnel to report 'any credible threat' to authorities. The problem is that this term is not clearly defined. One thing that people don't know about HIPPA is that it allows the government access to your medical records. A health care provider may not disclose your information to anyone, except upon request from the government. That last statement was the whole purpose of HIPPA. Before that, the law prohibited disclosure to anyone but immediate family. The law Ida wants is already there, it's just being used to invade your privacy, not to protect you.

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Capricorn1

Sep-22-13 7:11 AM

Nobud and Grammie, I agree. The problem in this case was a security clearance and Common Access Card (CAC) shouldn't have been issued to begin with if a proper investigation was done prior to issuing them. The Federal Government needs to revisit the entire security clearance system. Much of the work is now contracted out and way too many people are granted access to sensitive material and areas. When I obtained my clearances years ago, there was an enormous amount of red tape and paperwork to complete and the investigation would go as far back as teachers you had in school. If a proper investigation was done on this man, no access or clearance would have ever been granted. This is a poor example to use for championing a movement to abolish our right to privacy with our doctors.

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nobud74

Sep-22-13 6:56 AM

Ida, should your doc report you? I'm sorry, but I don't want anyone to know what my doc and I discuss. Would your next plan be to amend the attorney/client privilege? This shooter had run ins with the law and nothing was done, there was no need to change HIPPA laws to prevent his actions.

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Tgrammiex4

Sep-22-13 5:54 AM

This is one of those "slippery Slope" issues.You could have 5 diff. doctors have 5 diff. opinions on if a red flag should be raised on one individual.Trying to establish a standardized threshhold on when a notification should be issued would be tough.

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