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They still believe

September 23, 2013

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 1,000 times, then I would have to be a Democrat who still believes a single word that comes out of President Obama's mout....

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CMReeder

Sep-24-13 12:02 AM

Leaningright I am not an enforcer. Try growing up.

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CMReeder

Sep-24-13 12:00 AM

Thanks Scott!

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gavinf56

Sep-23-13 6:21 PM

I will in turn respond in kind because that is the language and tone they communicate in.-CMReeder

Ditto.

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Scott36

Sep-23-13 3:34 PM

We always hear how slick a politician is, I think it is his/her team behind him/her that is.-CMReeder

Me thinks you make an excellent observation.(though I think it comes natural to some) This causes me to ponder on the character of some of them. Doing what is best for the country is honorable-IMO. Letting someone change how you are, just to win an election, not so much. JMO, Scott

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Scott36

Sep-23-13 3:28 PM

As an Independent, this is an Obama that I could support. The current Obama, not so much.-Capricorn1

This is only one example, and a good one I believe. That being said a politician, any politician stating his "principles, priorities, beliefs, etc." and that same politician being in the position to do the actual decision making cannot always stick to those "principals" and govern effectively. I was always under the assumption that ALL politicians should be more concerned about the well being of the country as a whole, rather than "personal" concerns.-Hope your Day is going great--Scott

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Scott36

Sep-23-13 3:14 PM

I will in turn respond in kind because that is the language and tone they communicate in.-CMReeder

This really stood out to me. I recently had a small "back & forth" with two other posters. I felt it was positive. The subject, was the gradual changing of the demeanor of my posts. I reflected on this,(I was completely aware of the demeanor of my responses) & toned it down slightly. It was a waste of time. As you say, it is all they(most) understand, and/or respect. Fight fire with fire as the saying goes.

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Scott36

Sep-23-13 3:05 PM

I have lived other places not that it matters.-Shiloht

That Sir/Madam, as the case may be, is exactly why you see the difference in this publication. Hey, I would guess that is why we see so many different monikers. Have a Safe, & Happy Day-Scott

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Scott36

Sep-23-13 2:57 PM

Nothing constuctive is accomplished from LTE s like these.-Tgrammiex4

Except the serving of "Red Meat".

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Scott36

Sep-23-13 2:54 PM

Anytime you discuss religion or politics you are going to have heated discussions.-Capricorn1

Well recognized, are these not two of the major subjects Barbers, & bartenders try to stay away from?

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BornHere

Sep-23-13 2:49 PM

sorry grandkids.

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BornHere

Sep-23-13 2:37 PM

Disagreeing with someone is not bullying but when someone is verbally attacked on here because their opinion is different from yours, that is bullying.

The teasing, name-calling, inappropriate sexual comments, trying to embarrass them by calling them stupid, idiot, Nazi, terrorist etc, that is bullying.

I thought we were all adults on here and not children, heck my gradkids act better than this.

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leaningright

Sep-23-13 2:01 PM

Where is the crying towel for Mr Reeder? ooops, SORRY. Must be my radical right winged tbagger porky limbaugh coming out here,thats what i have been called here. You better talk to Shaman about his bullying. sniff sniff sob sob, get over it.

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CMReeder

Sep-23-13 1:58 PM

Capricorn1, Aerican Citizen, Born and Shiloht, Thanks for the discussion it was interesting but I have to leave for work. Check on it tommorrow. Have a good day!

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CMReeder

Sep-23-13 1:55 PM

I read a really good article a while back that cites the reason for the divide today is the reliance on the use of old terms when debating capitalism. They no longer relate today.

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CMReeder

Sep-23-13 1:53 PM

Tell me Born what do you think of Phil's post?

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underwood

Sep-23-13 1:53 PM

It wouldn’t make much sense for political party platforms to somehow compromise. Democrats stand for a large central government that exerts control over the economy and Republicans stand for a small central government and a free market. If both parties compromised until they stood for the same thing there wouldn’t be a need for two parties.

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CMReeder

Sep-23-13 1:47 PM

Capricorn1, I don't see it as news that is a cause but the reaction to news that is a cause. That was the point I was trying to convey. Not everyone is going to react the same and people try and build a concensus from it and from that a talking point.

Good example is Syria. The news is chemical weapons was used on the populace in Syria. Everyone reacted differently to that news. From that a concensus was made and from that political talking points have evolve. It is not the news of chemical weapons being use it is people's reaction to it that drives the discussion about it.

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underwood

Sep-23-13 1:38 PM

Disagreeing with someone isn’t bullying. Responding to a LTE or comment with false claims, insults and nonsensical narrative I suppose could be considered bullying, but it really just indicates the lack of a reasonable a response.

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CMReeder

Sep-23-13 1:38 PM

'...but they do it to make you irate so you will react the way they want you to."

True but then they complain about the reaction. They don't see how they played into it to begin with.

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Capricorn1

Sep-23-13 1:19 PM

Chuck, you are correct regarding party platforms. As far as news media, I guess I wrapped all those examples you stated under one umbrella. But you are right, it is media in general. It's very hard to find good unbiased journalism today and most media, news included is more entertainment than anything. Fox and MSNBC seem to actually enjoy calling each other out for the sake of ratings. Bottom line is they have an impact on the public and not always in a good way.

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BornHere

Sep-23-13 1:06 PM

Mr. Reeder, I know that it is many bullies, I have had a taste of their wrath on here, but they do it to make you irate so you will react the way they want you to.

But I am glad to hear that you are trying to make an attempt to ignore certain ones.

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CMReeder

Sep-23-13 12:50 PM

Ritty, when do Republicans take responsibility for theirs?

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CMReeder

Sep-23-13 12:48 PM

"If you understand the bully's game and do not play into it, you win."

But it is not one bully it is many bullies. You do not have one person behaving this way. I can see where you would see people playing into it but it can also be seen as standing up against it. Letters that are submitted and printed encite the 'bullying' from others. A lot of them repeat words they heard from others such as Rush Limbaugh or Chris Matthews. They saw it at a political web blog. Are they bullies also?

You can ignore the 'bullies' here but I have found they just try harder to get your attention. I have decided to ignore a certain few because they can not handle my retorts back to their hateful comments.

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Ritty77

Sep-23-13 12:27 PM

"Three more years of Obama then eight more years of Clinton." —Rick424

Rick, what is your predicted timetable for one of these Democrat presidents to take responsibility for the results of his policies? It's been five years and it hasn't happened yet.

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BornHere

Sep-23-13 12:25 PM

Mr. Reeder, what you have described on here today is nothing more than bullying.

If you understand the bully's game and do not play into it, you win.

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