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What leadership is

October 2, 2013

Arguably, the two most effective Presidents in my lifetime were Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. Reagan was ideologically right and Clinton is ideologically left....

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USABorn

Oct-02-13 1:34 AM

Agree completely Phil!

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mikekerstetter

Oct-02-13 3:42 AM

Absolutely right, Phil. They knew how to negotiate, which is give and take.

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gavinf56

Oct-02-13 4:45 AM

Leadership - "a process of social influence in which one person can enlist the aid and support of others in the accomplishment of a common task".

Something severely lacking with the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Good letter Phil.

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Ritty77

Oct-02-13 5:53 AM

Good letter, Phil.

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MrShaman

Oct-02-13 6:00 AM

"Arguably, the two most effective Presidents in my lifetime were Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. Reagan was ideologically right and Clinton is ideologically left." - Phil Underwood

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I think it was more a matter of...Bill Clinton was the (actual) conservative, that ReRon Reagan TRIED to "play" (on T.V.)...and, Bill Clinton never needed to clear-cut hundreds-of-thousands of Central American women, children, priests & nuns, to get the job done.

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MrShaman

Oct-02-13 6:19 AM

"Absolutely right, Phil. They knew how to negotiate, which is give and take." - mikekerstetter

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...AND, neither had White-Wing racists insisting Reagan and/or Clinton were illegitimate-Presidents....right-from-the-start.

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See:

Right America Feeling Wronged pt1 [YouTube]

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MrShaman

Oct-02-13 6:25 AM

Leadership - "a process of social influence in which one person can enlist the aid and support of others in the accomplishment of a common task".

Something severely lacking with the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave." - gavinf56

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Yeah...sure...that's been "the problem".

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See:

The Party of No: New Details on the GOP Plot to Obstruct Obama

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Capricorn1

Oct-02-13 6:44 AM

I agree Phil. The Office of the Presidency doesn't automatically make you a leader. You have to earn that title. Not only in the eyes of this nation, but across the globe.

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Darlin

Oct-02-13 7:29 AM

Being a leader includes compromise. These 2 men knew how to compromise to make a government work. What we have now is the "my way or the highway" politics. Chicago-style politics - my way no matter what, eliminate your opponent and always blame the opposition. Now the whole country has to suffer.

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CarlHiller

Oct-02-13 8:14 AM

Great LTE Phil. Too bad that the consumate racist "Sham the man" has to spout of with his racist remarks that pertain to nothing. "...AND, neither had White-Wing racists insisting Reagan and/or Clinton were illegitimate-Presidents....right-from-the-start." Go back to sleep little Shammy.

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MrShaman

Oct-02-13 8:24 AM

"What we have now is the "my way or the highway" politics." - Darlin

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AGREED!!!!!!

Let's HEAR IT!!!!...for the T-Baggin'/House Class O' 2010!!!

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MrShaman

Oct-02-13 8:28 AM

"Great LTE Phil. Too bad that the consumate racist "Sham the man" has to spout of with his racist remarks that pertain to nothing. "...AND, neither had White-Wing racists insisting Reagan and/or Clinton were illegitimate-Presidents....right-from-the-start." Go back to sleep little Shammy." - CarlHiller

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All I know is what I SEE...and, HEAR...that "evil" RECORDED-DATA, that "conservatives"/T-Baggers make every effort to ignore.

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See:

Right America Feeling Wronged pt1 [YouTube]

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leaningright

Oct-02-13 8:34 AM

A real leader would have brought the two sides together and solved the problem, then again, we DO NOT HAVE A REAL LEADER. How many examples do we need? What a failure this administration has been, at home and abroad. Obama can talk to the iranian leader and can't even talk to the Congress? Whats that? The Russians, Syrians, and the Iranians are laughing at us right now.

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underwood

Oct-02-13 8:59 AM

We can always count on someone jumping in with a feeble attempt at partisan narrative during a discussion that has noting to do with partisanship; pathetic.

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SteelerFan

Oct-02-13 9:07 AM

Sham: 'Let's HEAR IT!!!!...for the T-Baggin'/House Class O' 2010!!!'

the biggest obstructionists we currently have are Harry Reid and Barack Obama.

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gavinf56

Oct-02-13 9:14 AM

Read a good article the other day about Reagan and Tip O'Neal by Chris Matthews. Google it, it's worth the read and falls tight in line with what Phil is talking about.

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gavinf56

Oct-02-13 9:15 AM

Tight = right

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JohnZook

Oct-02-13 9:44 AM

Sham @6:35- Exactly HOW did Reid and Pelosi support the policies of George Bush to make sure his Presidency was successful? Oh, that time on 9/12/01 when all the politicians stood together to show support of the U.S..

See: Bush is a liar. (Reid) Bush is a loser. " This kind of debt is unpatriotic. (Obama) Also see the Democrats against George W. Bush. 1998-present.

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FortySixand2

Oct-02-13 10:09 AM

You can't compromise with crazy. Yes, the teabaggers are crazy. When your entire premise is that government is bad and doesn't work, there is nothing good coming from that. There is no compromising with that. Just look at some of the comments. Obama and the Senate Democrats are the obstructionists. Wow! The entire country should be ran by the 100 Republican Teabaggers from districts gerrymandered so perfectly, they'll be that way for a hundred years. Crazy!

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enigma

Oct-02-13 10:11 AM

Phil is right. While I didn't like where Clinton was leading us (or much else about him), he was a leader, and Obama is not.

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enigma

Oct-02-13 10:23 AM

"When your entire premise is that government is bad and doesn't work, there is nothing good coming from that."--FortySixand2

That is not the entire premise of the Tea Party. They believe that government is too big, not that it is bad. How can you argue with that? when the government is over 20% of the country (and that's just the federal government), that's too big. When the government thinks they know more about your health care needs than you do, it's too big. When people in Manhattan are receiving farm subsidies, the government is too big. Only a fool could believe that our government is working well or efficiently, but you think it's the Tea Party that's crazy. You Communists are so stupid.

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underwood

Oct-02-13 10:54 AM

Contrary to what some posit, libertarians and most conservatives believe in a strong government that’s limited to functions granted it by the Constitution. Big government lovers are unable to discuss the size and functions of government, so they use their narrative to try and demonize anyone calling for limited government and they even do it in a discussion about government leadership.

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Capricorn1

Oct-02-13 12:14 PM

When your entire premise is that government is bad and doesn't work, there is nothing good coming from that. -Forty

Forty, what is the level when you personally feel that government is too big? It appears that 3 trillion a year that is needed to currently sustain it, is not a concern for you and many liberals. What is the magic number for you folks to finally say, enough is enough? 5 trillion? 7 trillion? Or do you believe that there is no limit and government should have a blank checkbook? The only program that liberals are looking to place massive cuts in is the Defense Department and they are gutting that at levels we haven't seen since WWII.

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leaningright

Oct-02-13 12:30 PM

The debt ceiling debate is next! Im sure that Harry Reid will accept "NO Negotiations" on that too."dead on arrival" Print more money that will work, right? Pelosi says the shelfs are bare, nowhere left to cut. Give me a break!

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FortySixand2

Oct-02-13 12:41 PM

It's too big! What cons never seem to care about is whether it is effective and responsive to the people. We are the only industrialized nation in the world where our privatized health system leaves us with 40-50 million people uninsured. You say you want everything in the private realm, and yet it is exactly that which has left us vulnerable. So the people only have the government to turn to to right a wrong. Funny thing is...it's still in the private realm, but with a strong dose of government regulation to make it work. And you then say it's a government takeover, when it is clearly not. Well, I say off to the "death panels" with you! (Sarcasm)

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