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War on christianity

October 3, 2013

For a very long time now it has been clear that the policies of the Republican Party are anti-Christia....

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USABorn

Oct-03-13 2:01 AM

Any honest observer has to assess the Democrat/Republican divide and find that the party nearer to Christian beliefs as professed in the New Testament is without a doubt, the Democrats.

Mr. Saunders MAY be one of those rarities, a christian democrat! But his letter is really quite absurd.

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mikekerstetter

Oct-03-13 4:03 AM

The Bible also says "Proverbs 20:4 Sluggards do not plow in season; so at harvest time they look but find nothing." and 2 Thessalonians 3:10 "For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”

But, yes, we are to be charitable in our giving and feed the hungry. Where we likely disagree is in whether or not it's Government's job to make us be charitable. I find it ironic that this person, presumably a Democrat, wants to invoke Bible passages in support of their social programs. I'd be willing to bet that they are the first in line to tell us the Bible has no place Government when it comes to issues like Gay Marriage and Abortion.

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Tgrammiex4

Oct-03-13 4:03 AM

I can remember my Grandma always telling us kids "God helps those who help themselves" I don't know if she got that from the Bible, but it makes sense. You can't have a nation of takers without someone being givers. I just think Repubs. see the "givers" pool shrinking and the need for people to take a more self- reliant stance.

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Premier

Oct-03-13 5:07 AM

It is up to a person on an individual level to give, not having the government take from you and then dole it out as they seem fit.

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Capricorn1

Oct-03-13 5:11 AM

If Christ were alive today he would be an Independent and would probably scorn both sides of the aisle for being in a competition to be labeled the better "Christian".

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gavinf56

Oct-03-13 5:14 AM

Jesus never said "get Caesar to pass laws taking everyone's money and render it to the poor."

You give to the poor out of "free will".

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CarlHiller

Oct-03-13 5:51 AM

"If Christ were alive today he would be an Independent and would probably scorn both sides of the aisle for being in a competition to be labeled the better 'Christian'." So correct Capricorn1. The only piece you left out was the same scorn he would heap on the organized "Christian" denominations of today.

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VinceKnauff

Oct-03-13 6:06 AM

Every year statistics show that people that call themselves Republican or Conservative give more to charity than to Liberals or Democrats. Perhaps the Liberal website this writer copied this letter from failed to mention that point. He equates government spending with compassion, when the truth is that those two things are direct opposites.

Besides, the party that advocates abortion cannot say they are more Christian no matter what else they do. Period.

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idiottwo

Oct-03-13 6:07 AM

Richard, as you can see thru your note with ease. I see no reason to even argue with you and I hope others won't. Its a waste of time given your dishonesty.

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sideliner

Oct-03-13 6:07 AM

I agree that giving to the poor should come from free will, but when so many see the poor as lazy freeloaders, that free will giving doesn't cover actual need. That's when social programs become the nation's collective conscience and cares for those unable to care for themselves.

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Capricorn1

Oct-03-13 6:19 AM

That's when social programs become the nation's collective conscience and cares for those unable to care for themselves. -Sideliner

"unable" I have no problem with, unwilling, I do. And many times these social programs do nothing more than remove the incentive to succeed in life. They keep the poor, poor.

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MrShaman

Oct-03-13 6:21 AM

"Every year statistics show that people that call themselves Republican or Conservative give more to charity than to Liberals or Democrats." - VinceKnauff

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That's what Porky Limbaugh insists, huh...or, was it the Heritage Foundation?

You "conservatives" always seem to "forget" to reference your sources...for those "stats" you rely-upon.

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Capricorn1

Oct-03-13 6:36 AM

Shaman, may I suggest you read the book entitled "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism." The author is Arthur C. Brooks, a professor at Syracuse University, and a registered Independent.

"Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227)."

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slickthedryfly

Oct-03-13 7:33 AM

I like Cliche's better, like, You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink, The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, Don't count your chickens until they hatch, Birds of a feather flock together, and my favorite, Wake up and smell the coffee.

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spike2

Oct-03-13 7:47 AM

Out of town for three weeks . Will not be home for another three. I see the topics haven't changed much. Just popphhed up to say Hello to all of you. Hope you are enjoing a beautiful fall.

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CMReeder

Oct-03-13 7:54 AM

I am going to give my 'kiss of death' and say this is a great letter!

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underwood

Oct-03-13 8:04 AM

I read nothing in the Bible or the Constitution that directs us to use the force of government to take the property of some and distribute it to others who’ve done nothing to earn it. To the contrary, it isn’t charity if it has to be forced. This LTE pushes leftist narrative past the limit.

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CMReeder

Oct-03-13 8:08 AM

There it is!

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enigma

Oct-03-13 8:14 AM

"Mr. Saunders MAY be one of those rarities, a christian democrat! But his letter is really quite absurd."--USABorn

The letter was worse than absurd, it was heretical. To take a story from the Bible which was meant to instruct people to be charitable to their fellow man and use it to justify big government is a mockery. This is the usual argument used by non-Christians to get Christians to go along with stealing from the 'rich' to give to the poor. If Richard is a Christian, then he is a stupid one who has fallen for the scam. Government charity is not charity at all. Charity is a personal thing. I'm all for feeding and clothing the poor. I give to food and clothing drives and to Feed the Children and other charities as they arise, but that is my choice. I would never give to a charity that wasted as much money as the government, so I object to being forces to pay for wasteful programs that the government has no place in.

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CMReeder

Oct-03-13 8:14 AM

From the Preamble to the Constitution; "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

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enigma

Oct-03-13 8:19 AM

"Shaman, may I suggest you read the book entitled..."--Capricorn1

Sham doesn't read! Maybe if you make it into a YouTube video.

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ArtFold

Oct-03-13 8:21 AM

I believe Vince Knauff has the best reply so far today.

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SteelerFan

Oct-03-13 8:21 AM

LOL

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SteelerFan

Oct-03-13 8:22 AM

The LOL was at Chuckles, not you ArtFold

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CMReeder

Oct-03-13 8:26 AM

What dweeb you are Steeler!

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