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Same-sex marriage legislation introduced

October 4, 2013

As the Pennsylvania Marriage Equality Act was introduced in the state House of Representatives Thursday, local congressmen had varying views on same-sex marriage....

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LeisureSuitLarry

Oct-07-13 5:49 AM

uhavegot2bekidn, you have got to be kidding!

"They have to follow the laws, work, and everything else that heterosexuals do BUT they are not allowed to get married because some lawmakers say it is wrong? This is not fair"

Well, I'm not really religious, but was raised in the church. A lot of folks would say it's more than just "some lawmakers" that say it's wrong. They might argue that THE LAWMAKER said it is wrong. Not only that, but nature kind of says it's wrong too. Just like the hip bone is connected to the leg bone, certain parts are meant to go with certain parts for distinct reasons of furthering the species. Do abnormalities occur? Sure they do. Newsflash, Life isn't fair (that's one of God's jokes).

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jsteg47

Oct-06-13 12:22 PM

Colorado passed their same sex laws in April, Biblical proportion flooding last month flooding ? Well, I'm just saying.

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4equality

Oct-06-13 11:44 AM

Full equality can not be achieved until gays couples have the same right to marriage as heterosexual couples.

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4equality

Oct-06-13 11:31 AM

Thank you Rick Mirabito for pointing a few of the inequalities that gays and lesbians face.

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mikekerstetter

Oct-06-13 7:50 AM

I know a lot of gay and lesbian couples and singles. None of them are homeless and I've not heard any of them complaining that they've been turned away because of their sexual orientation.

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uhavegot2bekidn

Oct-06-13 4:17 AM

LeisuresuitLarry you said "What the gays do in their private lives is their business" This statement is not true as gays and lesbians are always being told what they can and cannot do. They cam be discriminated and told where they can and cannot live (to have said private life) They are told everyday what they are doing is wrong, people everyday get into the personal business of gays and lesbians by giving their opinion. You don't see them telling all straight people what they do is gross and they shouldn't do it ( and yes gays and lesbians do think this) This is a country where discrimination is suppose to be illegal but discrimination for homosexuals is every where. Homosexuals have to pay taxes like heterosexuals, They have to follow the laws, work, and everything else that heterosexuals do BUT they are not allowed to get married because some lawmakers say it is wrong? This is not fair. They make money, the spend money all the same.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Oct-05-13 9:22 PM

"Interesting post I saw the other day that said "If reading the Bible causes you to hate people, you're reading it wrong.""--MikeKerstetter

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A big 10/4.

For instance when I see the family wanting to see a person to be executed for the murder of their family member to bring closure, it saddens me. I have never been there so maybe I can't truly appreciate it. But I have to believe, they are still in bondage to the person. I think the only way to bring closure is truly forgiveness. Forgiveness can break the shackles of hate and vengeance. Love is the key. God loves so much that He can forgive no matter what they have done (just like USABorn mentioned earlier); if people will just accept it.

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MikeSmith

Oct-05-13 6:09 PM

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their*****one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Romans 1:26-27

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mikekerstetter

Oct-05-13 4:17 PM

ToTEXASfromPA-"I would suggest trying the book called "Legislating Morality" by Geisler/Turek"

I read that book a few months back. Good book. Thanks. ;)

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mikekerstetter

Oct-05-13 4:15 PM

ToTEXASfromPA-"We should love gays. They should be treated as any individual who is a liberal or conservative or black or white or red or yellow or male or female or tall or short or thin or fat or child or adult. All are God's creation and we should all love each other."

Interesting post I saw the other day that said "If reading the Bible causes you to hate people, you're reading it wrong." You and that post are absolutely correct.

I wish, though, that the automatic response to those who believe in God's word wasn't that we are haters and bigots just because we believe and share our belief that Homosexuality is one of many sins that ought not be affirmed nor encouraged.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Oct-05-13 3:55 PM

"Funny how we "can't stand" gays but we are sure quick to tax them, expect them to donate to our causes."--Zippie

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We should love gays. They should be treated as any individual who is a liberal or conservative or black or white or red or yellow or male or female or tall or short or thin or fat or child or adult. All are God's creation and we should all love each other.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Oct-05-13 3:48 PM

Cont>>

Governments and kingdoms were set-up thousands of years before God established the Ten Commandments, the levitical order, the Temple, or the church. So God has expected mankind to regulate itself, govern itself using the mortality that He programmed into man since Adam was created. Society can and should legislate morality.

Part of the problem Is that those in the church will give into or follow the man-made philosophies and traditions because they sound good or appeal to the human nature. That is what has happened to a more or lesser degree with slavery, abortion, legalism, rituals, punishing witchcraft, etc. If you get a chance, I would suggest trying the book called "Legislating Morality" by Geisler/Turek

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ToTEXASfromPA

Oct-05-13 3:47 PM

"The gov't needs to stay out of our moral choices; remember, "you can't legislate morality"? This is a God vs. world issue and, to Believers, we know Who wins in the end. We have removed the God of the Founders and let in false gods. We will now receive our just reward."--JohnZook

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I know that you mean well and I agree with your latter ideas. Let me explain why I differ on the former thoughts. God created mankind like himself; in His image (Gen 1:27). He programs into mankind his concept of right and wrong; ie the moral law, the natural law that some of our founding fathers (some of whom were Christians and non-Christians (including Deists and atheists) reference in our nation's early documents.

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Zippie

Oct-05-13 1:57 PM

Funny how we "can't stand" gays but we are sure quick to tax them, expect them to donate to our causes.

And on the flip side we give "anything they want" to illegals.

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DavidBross

Oct-05-13 1:35 PM

If the word "marriage" appears in the tax code, legislation, or any regulations related to legislation and codes, then it has a legally binding definition. If, as Erik says, the government should get out of defining marriage then the word should be removed from all laws, codes, regulations, etc.

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LeisureSuitLarry

Oct-05-13 12:51 PM

It's Husband and Wife, plain and simple; leave marriage alone. What the gays do in their private lives is their business - keep it there. If government needs to adjust some tax laws and discrimination laws so be it. I like an earlier comment about how it's shameful the kind of world we're leaving the next generation - you don't even know sometimes if it's a man or a woman. Yes it is a sick, sick world. For instance... Chasity Bono was, is, and always will be a woman no matter how many male hormones she takes or how ever many appendages she has sewn on and no matter what it prefers to call itself.

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mikekerstetter

Oct-05-13 9:50 AM

DavidBross-"Erik, you said, "First, I agree with Yaw that the gov't should get out of defining marriage. Then, with regard to taxes, let's change the tax laws, not redefine marriage. Aren't those two statements contradictory? After all, if marriage has legal connotations, doesn't it then have a legal definition?"

No. The Tax code gives breaks to married couples. Changing the tax code to give tax breaks to gay couples changes the tax code. Changing marriage to get gay couples those tax breaks doesn't change the tax code, it changes the definition of marriage.

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MrShaman

Oct-05-13 9:45 AM

"This is a God vs. world issue and, to Believers, we know Who wins in the end." - JohnZook

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No, you don't. You BELIEVE "you know Who wins in the end". There IS a difference.

Like Judge Judy says...If the PROOF doesn't exist, it isn't true.

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DavidBross

Oct-05-13 9:44 AM

I am pleased to see Senator Yaw's view. Erik, you said, "First, I agree with Yaw that the gov't should get out of defining marriage. Then, with regard to taxes, let's change the tax laws, not redefine marriage. Aren't those two statements contradictory? After all, if marriage has legal connotations, doesn't it then have a legal definition?

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mikekerstetter

Oct-05-13 9:22 AM

JohnZook-"The gov't needs to stay out of our moral choices; remember, "you can't legislate morality"?"

Actually, all laws attempt to regulate morality. The question really becomes what we use as our moral compass to decide what is and isn't morally acceptable.

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JohnZook

Oct-05-13 9:01 AM

The gov't needs to stay out of our moral choices; remember, "you can't legislate morality"? This is a God vs. world issue and, to Believers, we know Who wins in the end. We have removed the God of the Founders and let in false gods. We will now receive our just reward.

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MrShaman

Oct-05-13 6:55 AM

"I still have not received an answer as to why changing the law to give same sex couples equal benefits under the law as Married couples will not suffice. Why do we need to redefine marriage?" - mikekerstetter

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No one's "redefining" marriage. I think it's more a matter of doing what's necessary, to remind folks (like you) that marriage ISN'T another o' your "private", little clubs...like "Whites Only" golf-courses, restaurants, water-fountains, etc.......

It's time folks (like you) catch-up to those (others), who've already "retired" to the tar-pits, at Rancho La Brea.

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MrShaman

Oct-05-13 6:44 AM

Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done." - mikekerstetter

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Yeah...we know...we know...

Doesn't that sound "somewhat" counter-productive, to you??????

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See:

Murder in the Bible

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MrShaman

Oct-05-13 6:39 AM

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. (Leviticus 18:22 KJV)[1]

20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination:

Seems pretty clear to me. You can't just pick and choose what is right in wrong and what you want to believe in the Bible. You better stand up for somthing or your fall for any thing." - Woolrich

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No doubt...especially "any thing" like the science that dispels any-and-all faith-based fairy-tales, right??

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See:

Youngest Brother Has the Highest Chance To Be Gay pt1

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Youngest Brother Has the Highest Chance To Be Gay pt2

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MrShaman

Oct-05-13 6:29 AM

"...why not go smoke MJ in Washington state or enjoy crack in Amsterdam..." - ToTEXASfromPA

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Ah, yes...how fortunate such behavior is "isolated" to those locations.

STAY in Texas. You'll be doing the civilized-folks, in PA, a HUGE favor.

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