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High cost of higher education

October 7, 2013

At 79 I have experienced education as a student at many levels. I have also taught in this country at all levels; I also experienced teaching in several countries in Europe....

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gavinf56

Oct-09-13 2:03 PM

Well Cap, we will just have to wait for Chuck's source that private colleges get state legislative funding.

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Capricorn1

Oct-09-13 1:04 PM

Chuck, I know that many private colleges and universities receive tax breaks, such as Lycoming, which doesn't pay property tax, and students who attend these institutions can qualify for government loans and grants, but I'm not aware of any them actually receiving government funding like state sponsored institutions do.

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gavinf56

Oct-09-13 12:54 PM

How about providing a resource/link to the state funds they receive.

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CMReeder

Oct-09-13 12:24 PM

Gee thanks for the unasked for spelling lesson. Another way to poke.

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CMReeder

Oct-09-13 12:22 PM

They do receive funds from the state.

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gavinf56

Oct-09-13 9:33 AM

Hate to burst your bubble on one of your "absolutes" Chuck, but private colleges do not receive funds from state legislatures. Perhaps a little more research on your end will help.

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GoBB62

Oct-09-13 8:34 AM

" I can say that very easily about the right wing who post here.

Sorry but the right who post here do not find MrShaman's posts amusing as a matter they get down right irated" - chuckles

Given the bad grammar & bad spelling, I'd say you're the one that sounds IRRITATED.

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CMReeder

Oct-09-13 8:24 AM

Education has to keep up with new technology and developments that increases spending. The institution of education is constantly changing, expanding, developing.

The state and states did not keep up with the increases and left the burden of those increases on to those who seek a higher eeducation.

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CMReeder

Oct-09-13 8:17 AM

Hate to burst your bubble here but private schools do get state funding it isn't the only source. They do fund raisers like public schools, they also do tutition like public schools. They get funds from the state and federal government but not to the extent that 'state' schools do.

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gavinf56

Oct-08-13 7:24 PM

It should also be noted that is for a "state school" and does not apply to private schools which do not receive state funding, but have still increased tuitions well above the inflation rate.

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gavinf56

Oct-08-13 6:30 PM

Well Chuck, you are correct in a sense. The percentage has dropped, but the reason for the drop has been the extraordinary jump in the schools general fund.

In real terms adjusted for inflation, the state subsidy has decreased about 13% since 1970, while the increases have dwarfed those declines with both the general fund budget and tuition fees increasing by nearly 700% adjusted for inflation. If the state appropriation to PSU were to stay the same as the 1970 level, it would be $1.35 billion to Penn State alone (right now they receive around $285 million).

The question begs, was it the decrease in funding, or the increase in spending?

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CMReeder

Oct-08-13 1:48 PM

There is no more there is less.

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gavinf56

Oct-08-13 1:46 PM

I guess I will have to post some numbers later tonight.

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gavinf56

Oct-08-13 1:45 PM

Now we understand, more is less.

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CMReeder

Oct-08-13 12:45 PM

Well Gavin again you are speaking to dollars not percentage. States have been progressively giving less to higher education. There are less grants going to research. People see the dollar amount and see more but the reality is that schools have been getting less.

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CMReeder

Oct-08-13 12:39 PM

I can say that very easily about the right wing who post here.

Sorry but the right who post here do not find MrShaman's posts amusing as a matter they get down right irated.

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cheyenne

Oct-08-13 12:35 PM

"The right who post here want MrShaman to stop posting..."- CMReeder.

On the contrary, Chuck. I find the majority of Sham's posts quite amusing, and to a degree, educational. He is a perfect example of how easily some minds can be thoroughly brain-washed by skillful manipulators.

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gavinf56

Oct-08-13 12:10 PM

OK Chuck, that explains the past 3 years, what about the previous 27 while funding increased every year, especially in PA under Rendell?

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CMReeder

Oct-08-13 10:41 AM

sorry that it tuition.

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CMReeder

Oct-08-13 10:40 AM

Sorry but research from financial institutes points to lower funding from the states. The states are not spending as much for higher education as in the past. States are not meeting the demand, colleges have no choice but to raise tutition rates.

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gavinf56

Oct-08-13 9:01 AM

For the past 30 years (other than the past 2-3 years) college funding by the states increased annually at a rate higher than inflation, and yet tuition rates still increased annually at a pace exceeding inflation. Lack of governmental funding isn't the cause of the tuition increases.

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CMReeder

Oct-08-13 8:56 AM

That increase in federal back college loans causes states to cut more funding for higher education in their states. One vicious cycle because lower taxes are better for us.

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CMReeder

Oct-08-13 8:34 AM

The cuts in funding by the states to colleges causing them to increase tuition rates gives an increase in more federal back college loans.

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CMReeder

Oct-08-13 8:31 AM

Well not if you include the wages of workers.

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MrShaman

Oct-08-13 8:25 AM

"The cost of a college doesn't remain stagnant..." - CMReeder

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...Like the cost of everything else.

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