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Fitting with the Bible

October 9, 2013

This letter is in response to Richard Saunders' letter entitled "War on Christianity." Mr....

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VinceKnauff

Oct-09-13 6:22 AM

A Liberal took words and phrases out of context in order to falsely show support for his views? NEVER!

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ToTEXASfromPA

Oct-09-13 6:27 AM

Oh Francine, don't you remember stupid Bart Stupak from oHIo leading the democrats to not vote for ACA unless it exempted covering abortions?

Didn't you hear that President Obama signed Executive Order 13535 so that Federal funding cannot be used for abortions (except in cases of rape or incest, or when the life of the woman would be endangered) as part of ACA!!!!!

Surely President Barack Hussein Obama won't lie to us, would he?

He doesn't think we have short memories does he? Nor does he have the press in his corner to cover his actions does he?

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eriklatranyi

Oct-09-13 6:48 AM

Liberals twist words in the same way the snake tempted Eve.

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rick424

Oct-09-13 7:34 AM

"Those verses are certainly open to various interpretations"

Pretty much sums this up.

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rick424

Oct-09-13 7:53 AM

"that if any would not work, neither should he eat."

Pretty harsh I must say. So what happens to those people? Just let them die? I guess that would solve a lot of problems.

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CMReeder

Oct-09-13 8:02 AM

"A Liberal took words and phrases out of context in order to falsely show support for his views? NEVER!"

Just like a conservative!

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enigma

Oct-09-13 8:02 AM

"Those verses are certainly open to various interpretations"

There is only one correct interpretation and that's exactly what it says, in context. Any other interpretation is a lie. The original letter writer's interpretation was a lie.

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eriklatranyi

Oct-09-13 8:30 AM

Liberals despise the Bible because it encourages faith in something other than government.

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rick424

Oct-09-13 8:55 AM

Not sure why all the disagrees, is that not what it says??

"that if any would not work, neither should he eat."

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underwood

Oct-09-13 9:01 AM

All religions are interpretations; that’s why we have so many religions and denominations within religions. That’s also why religion has no place in a rational discussion and it certainly doesn’t prove anything.

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Capricorn1

Oct-09-13 10:05 AM

Phil there's only one thing worse than trying to have a conversation regarding religion; a conversation regarding religion AND politics.

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AmericanCitizen

Oct-09-13 10:27 AM

Thessalonians, I see. And when, in your mind, did this opinion of Paul's become more important than the words of Jesus Himself?

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CMReeder

Oct-09-13 11:25 AM

"Liberals despise the Bible because it encourages faith in something other than government."

Not as much as conservatives despise liberals and government.

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BornHere

Oct-09-13 12:08 PM

I have a question, with the constant Liberal bashing on here day in and day out, don't the Conservatives ever do anything wrong? I mean they get blamed for EVERYTHING and no I am not a Liberal.

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VinceKnauff

Oct-09-13 12:45 PM

I have a question, with the constant Liberal bashing on here day in and day out, don't the Conservatives ever do anything wrong? I mean they get blamed for EVERYTHING and no I am not a Liberal.

Know what it means when you have to tell people that you are not something? It means that you are that thing. The fact that you saw it necessary to comment on the "Liberal bashing" that happens here without mentioning the content delivered by Messrs Shaman and Reeder and Rick and CHayes et al proves my point.

Perhaps you might try to prove some of what I and others say wrong before you call it bashing.

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FortySixand2

Oct-09-13 1:07 PM

Allowing abortions as a woman's choice and being legal, safe, and rare does not mean being "pro abortion". It means giving women autonomy over their own bodies, something which scares the bejesus out of the patriarchal power structure of most religions and their strict adherents.

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FortySixand2

Oct-09-13 1:12 PM

"Liberals despise the Bible"??!!! Oh please! Hyperbole much? Liberals pushing back against conservatives "owning" anything and everything biblical or Christian is not despising the Bible.

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BornHere

Oct-09-13 1:43 PM

Thank you Vince, but I am not a Liberal and the reason I called it "Liberal Bashing" is, some of the disgusting names and comparisons that are used to describe some of the Liberals on here are uncalled for and they seem to get blamed for some of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard of, so I called it bashing.

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FortySixand2

Oct-09-13 1:44 PM

The context of Paul in 2 Thes 3:6-11.....In the previous chapter of his epistle, Paul warned about those who were teaching that the second coming was imminent (2 Thes. 2:2), and this had apparently misled some in Thessalonica into ceasing from earning a living, since they expected the Lord to return at any moment. Paul made it quite clear in chapter 2 that such teaching was in error, and he details events that must first take place before Christ could return (2 Thes. 2:3-12). This is why Paul did not live off the resources of the church in Thessalonica, because he was setting an example, to reinforce his teaching that the second coming was not near. So our modern conservatives have indeed taken this passage completely out of context. St Paul is telling his own fellow Christians to not live off the church while waiting for Christ's second coming. Apparently, some among them had ceased their work because Jesus was about to return. It wasn't about "kicking the lazy poor people."

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FortySixand2

Oct-09-13 1:52 PM

Hey Vince, you ever notice how someone never misses a chance to denigrate via name calling in nearly every post? ie "parasitic progressives", just watch...

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FortySixand2

Oct-09-13 2:03 PM

So the proper context in which Paul spoke, and the greater context of the New Testament and the teachings of Christ, Thessalonians 3:10 is not a pass to take food out of the mouths of hungry working families and poor children; far from it! The Gospel in general and Thessalonians in particular both directly state almost the opposite of what these devout posers on the right would like it to mean, or would like you to believe it means. Many verses are vague or two millennia out of context and thus irresistible for past and present conman to seize on, to better cloak their own greed and exploitation in the words of the Bible. Thessalonians is no exception. But there is no doubt what the core principles of Jesus were, he stated them very clearly, again and again and again: feed the hungry, help the poor, heal the sick, give your money away. Jesus was an upstart progressive, bordering on a full blown socialist. And yes, some of that was cut/paste. Get over it.

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Capricorn1

Oct-09-13 6:24 PM

Allowing abortions as a woman's choice and being legal, safe, and rare does not mean being "pro abortion". -Forty

RARE???

234 abortions per 1,000 live births (according to the Centers for Disease Control) Abortions per year: 1.2 million Abortions per day: 3,288 Abortions per hour: 137 9 abortions every 4 minutes 1 abortion every 26 seconds

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Scott36

Oct-09-13 6:43 PM

Liberals despise the Bible because it encourages faith in something other than government.-Eriklatranyi

I will ask this question again. If on the day of your judgment, you are asked: Why did you question some who believed in me for the sake of a political convenience/reasons ? Why did you claim that a political affiliation could claim ownership of who believes in me?? I'm sure that I will get the same crickets as last time.

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underwood

Oct-09-13 7:08 PM

Political affiliation and religious beliefs are two entirely different things and have no relationship to one another.

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rredrose

Oct-09-13 7:39 PM

Pro-choice, a woman's decision, pro-life. As a Christian, I struggle. Does the gov't have the right to tell me what to do in this regards? How about teaching abstinence in schools, how about parents being parents and teaching their children that what they reap, they sow? How about being informed? Doesn't the real choice come LONG before the decision to terminate a pregnancy? Back to abstinence, responsibility, accepting the consequences for your behavior. There should not be the amount of abortions there are. There are too many choices before it gets to that point. I believe women who abuse their born children should be sterilized.

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