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The conflict between poll numbers and shutdown realities

October 11, 2013

U.S. Rep. Glenn Thompson, a Howard Republican who represents much of our region, isn’t taking his salary during the partial federal government shutdown....

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Scott36

Oct-12-13 11:36 AM

Bobbie2, Check,& Mate, case in point, just another example, well you get it(?).(you can take your choice) Pointing out the "troof" is getting easier, & easier--LOL, repeat LOL at U

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Scott36

Oct-12-13 9:24 AM

GoBB62, What an utterly, completely, leaving me defenseless, profound statement. Better double up on your foil.

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Scott36

Oct-12-13 9:22 AM

You really don't have a clue about anything do you. -Bobbie2

Well then, WHY do you not try to debate me in a reasonable way. Rather than relying on stale, half-witted remarks? Come on, it should be easy, after all, I don't have a clue--remember? My IQ is only 36 or so--remember? I don't get it--Remember? I am just a clueless liberal-remember? Come on, have at it.-Scott

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GoBB62

Oct-12-13 8:52 AM

Nobody knows more about tin foil than you leftists.

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Scott36

Oct-11-13 9:41 PM

ACA has already been corrupted by Scumbama, so actually it's not here to stay. ACA won't last till the end of Scumbama's term.-Bobbie2

You are good for a few laughs, me thinks that you need fresh tin foil. LOL!!

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Scott36

Oct-11-13 4:17 PM

Bobbie2, Judging from the babblings of your last post directed to me, I take it that the courts are only correct when they rule in favor of what you desire. Like it or not, ACA is here to stay!!!LOL Now you can go and fester in that reality!!LOL

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Scott36

Oct-11-13 4:12 PM

To place all the blame on one side of the aisle is being very narrow minded but the democrats are doing a better job in news media in getting the American people behind them. -Capricorn1

You and I are in agreement on most of your post. However the part of your last post that I have pasted, I feel a need to respond to. From your comment, it appears to me at least that you have very little faith in the American peoples ability to make up their own mind. It seems that every time that popular opinion on any subject goes against what the conservatives want/believe, its the medias fault. Is there not the possibility that the philosophy of the far right/tea party does not mesh with what the majority of Americans believe in?.

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Capricorn1

Oct-11-13 2:02 PM

I still stand by my comment that time could better have been spent to help the American people by trying to improve, rather than get rid of health care reform.-Scott

Actually we are in agreement to this point. The law does have it's good points. However, even though problems with the law have been well documented by professionals, the democrats are unwilling to even change anything with it, and the republicans want to repeal it all together. So in my opinion, both sides are to blame in regards to ACA in it's current form. It's also unfair that delays and exemptions have been given to some, determined by Obama, but there is no compromise when it comes to Republicans requesting delays. To place all the blame on one side of the aisle is being very narrow minded but the democrats are doing a better job in news media in getting the American people behind them.

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Scott36

Oct-11-13 1:34 PM

Capricorn, you raise some legitimate points. I don't quite see the connection with health care, other than they both have supporters, & those on the other side of the fence. I still stand by my comment that time could better have been spent to help the American people by trying to improve, rather than get rid of health care reform.-Scott

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Capricorn1

Oct-11-13 11:56 AM

Scott take a look at the RealID law that was passed in 2005 and never implemented because it's unpopular. Or how about immigration laws that are totally ignored?

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Capricorn1

Oct-11-13 11:55 AM

"And re-election trends indicate voters don't think their representatives are the problem." What we can see clearly somewhere else, we have great difficulty seeing where we live. This is true all over the country. To me, this is one of the big reasons governing has become so dysfunctional in our country. -David

Agreed. And all the more evidence that term limits are needed for our Congressional leaders. Leaving it up to voters is obviously not working because "their guy" is never the problem.

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Scott36

Oct-11-13 9:51 AM

Opponents of ACA don't want bugs worked out in accessing ACA, they want it repealed-DavidBross

I also caught the quote you mentioned, Kind of "glossing over it"-IMO But it is still law, and not the first imperfect law to take effect. If they really wanted to "iron out bugs", they did not have to waste 40 something votes to try to get rid of it, rather they could have spent some of that energy with an iron in their legislative hands.

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DavidBross

Oct-11-13 9:03 AM

Another thought regarding computer issues with signing up for ACA. In states where the exchanges are run by the state, there are far fewer glitches. It is in the states that have declined (refused?) to set up exchanges that the problems have occurred. It seems to me that some of the problems being complained about are those deliberately created by those complaining. If you don't like the bill, that's fine. I certainly have concerns with it. But, let's give our real reasons for objecting to it, and not give reasons because they might make us appear to be more reasonable to others. And, if efforts are made to obstruct ACA's implementation, those people can't use those efforts as reasons for saying ACA isn't working.

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DavidBross

Oct-11-13 8:15 AM

"A delay in implementation of the Affordable Care Act for a year to iron out the obvious computer enrollment bugs and improve the health care legislation, which constituents have told them they don't like." This quote gives two reasons for delaying ACA. It is the first time I have ever seen ironing out bugs as the prime reason given for delaying the ACA. I think that is disingenuous. Opponents of ACA don't want bugs worked out in accessing ACA, they want it repealed.

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DavidBross

Oct-11-13 8:12 AM

"And re-election trends indicate voters don't think their representatives are the problem." What we can see clearly somewhere else, we have great difficulty seeing where we live. This is true all over the country. To me, this is one of the big reasons governing has become so dysfunctional in our country.

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rick424

Oct-11-13 8:02 AM

We will see

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hopeforfuture

Oct-11-13 7:39 AM

No less than 10 spending bills to fund 87 percent of the federal government operation have been passed by the House during this partial shutdown. The Senate has uniformly stonewalled all of them. rick424- you are right Americans do know who is shutting down the government and it is not the House. Those representatives are doing their job.The Senate in refusing to do their part is the real reason.

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rick424

Oct-11-13 7:10 AM

Americans do know who is shutting down the government. And this is something they will remember in 2014. It is looking like the hard line republicans realized this but apparently too late.

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andy33

Oct-11-13 6:03 AM

TOO funny....not taking their salaries...that DOES NOT mean forfeiting their salaries....since they are NOT doing their jobs....how about NO money!!!!

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MrShaman

Oct-11-13 5:56 AM

"A delay in implementation of the Affordable Care Act for a year to iron out the obvious computer enrollment bugs..."

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Those folks, who are insistent-upon sabotaging health care legislation, are sounding more-and-more (like the ones who dreamed-up excuses for going-into Iraq), all-the-TIME!!!

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