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Concerned

October 15, 2013

As a single parent, I am very concerned about our disfunctional greedy politicians defunding the program set up for Women, Infants, and Children....

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Sullivan11

Oct-17-13 6:13 AM

jakesmom, perhaps the reason we, the taxpayers, are supporting you is your poor reading skills.

What I wrote was, "Observe the diets of your acquaintences on WIC, food stamps and other government giveaway goodies."

Please note, WIC is just one part of the "Great Society's" bankrupting of America. Furthermore, if you have the ambition and the ability, try reading a cookbook sometime. You will find that nearly every item WIC provides is an ingredient in a homecooked meal or a suppplement to it. But, gee. Fast-food junkfood is sooo much easier, huh?

Ponder that while you eat food my tax dollars provided you.

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USABorn

Oct-17-13 12:47 AM

mikekerstetter - 3:59 AM

"All these greedy people whom we are helping knew what they were doing was wrong. And then called their greedy friends and told them so they could show up and steal from us too. That is a prime example why a lot of people don't like the welfare system."

Goes to show the moral values of a GREAT MANY of those on welfare. And what are these worthless people doing today? Showing off their ill-gotten gains and bragging about their big haul???? Just think of the great lessons their kids are learning as they listen in.

And wonder why welfare recipients are so disliked!!!!!!

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Jakesmom

Oct-16-13 2:28 PM

I am not sure if Sullivan11 will see this post now since it is late. But, it is obvious he doesn't know what WIC is. It is NOT food stamps. You can not buy the foods you describe such as beef stir fry on WIC. You can not buy chicken or beef on WIC. You can buy formula, milk, whole grain bread, $6 worth of veggies/fruits a month, cereal, and juice. Again...you can not buy meat. Everyone on WIC is means tested. The children are weighed at visits. You do not even know what you are talking about. You think food stamps and WIC are the same thing.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Oct-16-13 12:13 PM

"Such hatred on here, truly amazing."--Rick424

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Maybe that is what future generations will say when saddled with the debt and they are slaves to the lender.

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rredrose

Oct-16-13 8:55 AM

The WIC program helped my daughter while she stayed home with her 1st born for 12 weeks. She is now back to work and could manage without it, though it does help. Formula is expensive. There are those women out there who really need it. Only thing is, I can't think of any. In my experience, most of the ones using it, don't work, haven't worked and have more kids than they can support on our generous government handouts.

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mikekerstetter

Oct-16-13 4:08 AM

And the part that irks me the most is that instead of going after all these people who committed obvious welfare fraud, they are making Walmart foot the bill for it.

These greedy, dishonest, no class, thieving bottom feeders are going away with their stolen food and not being held accountable for their actions one bit.

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mikekerstetter

Oct-16-13 3:59 AM

I completely missed this thread yesterday.

I don't mind helping people out who are in a tough situation. I think we owe our poor seniors, disabled and the truly poor among us a hand with the basics.

I do get irritated by the people, including this letter writer, who feel they are 'entitled' to our help rather than grateful for what they get.

The Walmart/Access card debacle really irritated me. During that 2 hour period in the state of LA when no balances were showing herds of people with Access cards showed up and emptied entire shelves of food. It was described as being worse then any black Friday sales they have ever seen.

All these greedy people whom we are helping knew what they were doing was wrong. And then called their greedy friends and told them so they could show up and steal from us too. That is a prime example why a lot of people don't like the welfare system.

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Capricorn1

Oct-15-13 8:32 PM

Such hatred on here, truly amazing. -Rick

Rick, care to be more specific on who exactly is showing hatred and why? That's a pretty broad statement to just throw out there without clarification. Let me guess, anyone who feels there is wide spread of abuse of government assistance programs in your mind are haters of the poor. Maybe you'll change your mind once the programs get so large they can no longer be sustained and people that really do need them will really suffer.

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rick424

Oct-15-13 8:15 PM

Such hatred on here, truly amazing.

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eriklatranyi

Oct-15-13 4:46 PM

The majority of these programs are federally managed and have little or no oversight.

Just like the regulators in the Gulf were watching **** instead of doing their jobs, nobody ever gets fired or removed from these programs.

Instead, they just grow and grow to be less manageable, less useful and more full of waste.

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Capricorn1

Oct-15-13 4:16 PM

Cheyenne, that is probably the best comment of this thread.

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cheyenne

Oct-15-13 3:42 PM

Not sure how encouraging government dependence, class envy, and irresponsibility can be termed "progressive". However, it is beneficial on election day to have people convinced they are entitled "victims".

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Sullivan11

Oct-15-13 2:36 PM

PS to my post below: While I was repairing her roof, she was on vacation in Virginia.

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Sullivan11

Oct-15-13 2:35 PM

Truly needy....?

I offer this challenge in all sincerity. Really---no sarcasm.

Observe the diets of your acquaintences on WIC, food stamps and other government giveaway goodies.

Do they really need help?

Home made ham and bean soup costs about $1.25 per generous serving. Chicken rice casserol (sp?) about the same. A beef stir fry with veggies and rice: a buck and a half. The list is endless.

How many "starving" families are eating these home made, nutritious "stretch-the-dollar" meals instead of eating McD's or expensive prepared foods? Darned few.

The next exercise? How many have cable or satelite with a gazillion channels? How about that 52" flat screen? How about the garbage bag full of empty beer cans? How about those expensive sneakers?

The biggest TV I've ever seen in a home was owned by a previous tenant who was getting various forms of assistance to feed her 3 children. You guessed it -- 3 kids, 3 fathers and no dad at home.

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Capricorn1

Oct-15-13 2:10 PM

I'll ask again, in this current recovering economy with unemployment dropping and government dependence rising, how much higher does the percentage of Americans have to get that require some sort of government assistance before liberals say, gee, we may have a problem here? It's close to half the country now, do we wait until 75% of the country is on government assistance? Is the answer taxing the middle and upper class more and more to support all those going on assistance. Look at the numbers the government is releasing regarding unemployment and the economy and compare those numbers to the number of those that need assistance. Something doesn't jive. Either the numbers regarding our economy and unemployment are inflated or there is widespread abuse of these programs. Personally I think it's both.

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eriklatranyi

Oct-15-13 1:51 PM

Liberals think any reform of these programs is a threat to their existence.

Conservatives have offered meaningful reforms....drug testing, work placement, etc.

Each time such a suggestion is made, liberals try to tell us we are only interested in cutting everyone off from these programs.

Need I remind liberals that it was conservatives who dragged President Clinton to welfare reform by using a gov't shutdown?

That welfare reform was effective and reduced the number of people on assistance without all the dire consequences predicted by liberals.

Those reforms have been swept away and these programs are now totally out of control.

Just as Obamacare is not doing income verification, other programs are not verifying citizenship, marital status, or employment.

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Sullivan11

Oct-15-13 1:47 PM

scott wrote: "I guess letting a few women and children go without food, medical care, etc., in the name of their "principles" is a small price to pay."

47% of all babies born in America last year were Medicaid babies (MRO CE conference, August, 2013).

That is not "a few" -- THAT is national catastrophy.

The big question.....Why are so many women having babies they can't support?

The big answer.....Because the pols will support them to buy votes until America plunges into bankruptcy. The feds have mortgaged our kids, our grandkids and our great grandkids future to support irresponsible people who continuously make bad choices we and future generations will pay a terrible price for.

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Scott36

Oct-15-13 1:15 PM

Simple solution sterilize all progressives.-tin foil

At the time of this posting, 2 agrees---Kinda sez it all.

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Scott36

Oct-15-13 1:13 PM

'I tell you the truth, when you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were doing it to me!' Jesus Christ of Nazareth -FortySixand2

If you get a response, it will be a quote from the Old Testament. I guess letting a few women and children go without food, medical care, etc., in the name of their "principles" is a small price to pay.

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Sullivan11

Oct-15-13 12:19 PM

radioactive, check out most "recipients'" lifestyle. I can tell you from personal observation (we own a few rental units) that most of them have a large flat screen, many (perhaps most) smoke and drink, many (but not most) do drugs, and almost none cook nutritious but inexpensive meals. One poor fellow who depends on the system to feed and cloth his kids couldn't pay his rent but he has a beautiful 22 foot inboard/outboard boat in his (my) backyard.

If you worked as a checkout clerk at a grocery store and your income depended on the number of times a food stamp recipient bought a bag of navy beans and a ham hock, or other "stretch" foods, you'd starve to death.

Ask any substance abuse professional to define "enabling". That word applies to our most of social program system.

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rick424

Oct-15-13 12:17 PM

Funny how the liberals are the most compassionate on these posts. I mean we hate everything, don't believe in religion and are parasites. I bet most of the people that get government assistance are conservatives in this area. Somebody will still have to explain to me what we are suppose to do with poor that don't meet the high standards of the right. What I am reading here is too bad for you, starve get sick a die so I can hang on to my money. Somebody will also have to explain how volunteer organizations are to help all these people.

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Capricorn1

Oct-15-13 12:12 PM

Radioactive, you must be reading a different letter than I am because I didn't read anything close to what you outlined. She mistakenly thought that WIC has been refunded. Other than that and her opinion of politicians, I don't see much more substance. As for your opinion about people in need, I agree, for those that are truly in need.

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Sullivan11

Oct-15-13 11:28 AM

Hmm. And I thought we had a serious discussion going here. :(

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FortySixand2

Oct-15-13 11:20 AM

'I tell you the truth, when you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were doing it to me!' Jesus Christ of Nazareth

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leaningright

Oct-15-13 11:03 AM

Sullivan- we give them free birth control for goodness sakes! I agree with you.

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