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October 16, 2013

So the shutdown stops military death benefits....

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boxtops1234

Oct-18-13 8:43 PM

The politicians who caused all the bull don't care. Did you see how many said that they wouldn't go without pay or that they would give a donation with their pay. Donations sound great but you know thats going to be in the form of a tax write off. We vote, fight, and pay for these classless bottom feeding pieces of trash. Something needs to give.

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rmiller

Oct-17-13 6:24 PM

John, I am not interested in trying to gain your favor, that is history. Yes, I think you were/are using an alias, something you accused me of for some time (as if it is a crime). Yes, my son posted, along with myself and yes I used two names at one time, years ago. I have since realized, thanks to your need to admonish people publickly, that one needen't hide behind a username. You were correct then and that thought is still correct. Can I prove you are not Sham? Absolutely not. Your sarcasm was not appreciated then and it still isn't. The only person I need to stand before in judgment is Jesus Christ, not you. For someone who doesn't believe in Christ, wouldn't you be an unfair judge in matters that pertain to Him?

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MrShaman

Oct-17-13 10:46 AM

Hope,

"Obama will have his way."

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And, has for five years. You said it in a nutshell." - rmiller

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That's what Porky Limbaugh says, huh??

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See:

Senate Republicans Block Yet Another Well-Qualified Obama Nominee

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MrShaman

Oct-17-13 10:29 AM

"I wish to apologize to our children and grandchildren." - hopeforfuture

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You're (about) 8 YEARS, TOO-LATE...for that one.

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See:

CASUALTY OF WAR: THE U.S. ECONOMY - SFGate

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MrShaman

Oct-17-13 10:20 AM

'The republicans made sure those families had to vacate their housing within 30 days of losing their family member in combat' Al said.

Please elaborate on that claim. How exactly were Republicans at responsible for those policies? As Cap said, the military had their own rules. And what did Republicans control then? Seems like Congress was held by Democrats all through the Vietnam war." - VinceKnauff

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Gee...how "odd". When Bill Clinton was in-Office, Republicans insisted he was responsible for EVERYTHING that happened, during his "watch".

NOW, you're saying CONGRESS was responsible for everything that happened, during Nixon's "watch"???

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rmiller

Oct-16-13 11:15 PM

eric,

I concur with your last post.

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eriklatranyi

Oct-16-13 5:35 PM

rmiller:

Everyone of them should not just be on Obamacare, they should not receive any subsidies and there should be a recorded vote for this.

Put all the liberals on record.

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rmiller

Oct-16-13 4:46 PM

Well Cap, Obomacare didn't go anywhere, to include the exception clause. I heard that some of the Senators want this to go to a vote, as in literal...ya..nah...it will give the public notice who wants to be openly irrespective of their constituents. Could sway the actual outcome, or at least we can hope. If DC wants Obamacare, every single one of them should be on the program too.

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Capricorn1

Oct-16-13 3:48 PM

Erik, actually no one got their way if this deal goes through, especially this country. All they did was kick the can down the road yet again. The ceiling is raised yet again, and out of control spending will continue. And some people wonder why I'm an avid supporter of term limits. IMO, they ALL need to go.

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eriklatranyi

Oct-16-13 3:33 PM

Obama gets his way, yet liberals here keep saying he is being blocked.

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rmiller

Oct-16-13 3:19 PM

Cap,

Your last post was indeed provocative, steeping in truth. Well said!

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Capricorn1

Oct-16-13 2:39 PM

To think, what a legacy he could have been for the country, and for the black community. -rmiller

Think of what MLK could have done for the black community if he was given the opportunity Obama was given. Very sad indeed.

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rmiller

Oct-16-13 2:38 PM

Cap,

You have every right to be reluctant with the several hundred shades of grey with this supposed health care act. I believe, and hope, that Democrats are becoming somewhat "reluctant to jump the band wagon." All that glitters is not gold.

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BornHere

Oct-16-13 2:33 PM

I forgot one thing the Veterans Administration back in 2008 tried to tell me that my husband had died in Viet Nam. I found this out while I was filing for his disability compensation. I like their healthcare but the rest of the system is messed up.

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Capricorn1

Oct-16-13 2:32 PM

Bornhere, I don't doubt anything you say. Why do you think I'm very vocal about big government. But to place the blame on whatever political party was in office is unfounded. It's government in general and the systems they have in place and the incompetence within those systems. I worked in government for close to three decades and nothing surprises me when it comes to government managed programs. I had to fight the system MANY times to get answers and benefits for myself and my family. I've gone 3 months in a foreign country with my family without getting paid because of a clerical error made back in the states before I left. I don't think most people realize all the sacrifices that those in the military make just because of how government wheels turn. That's also why I'm very reluctant when it comes to the ACA. I saw too clearly how the government managed veterans care for too many years. It was deplorable.

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BornHere

Oct-16-13 2:06 PM

Capricorn1...my husbands friends died in 1970 and 1971 and the families were told that OSGLI attempts to pay SGLI claims within 4 to 6 weeks of receiving all of the documentation that is needed for the deceased veteran and claims are filed first come first served especially when children are involved. Their claims were filed days after the veterans had died and still had to wait almost a year before receiving any death benefits. It had nothing to do with paperwork it had to do with the office losing their files and had to start all over again so the families had to wait.

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rmiller

Oct-16-13 1:59 PM

Hope,

"Obama will have his way."

And, has for five years. You said it in a nutshell. And to think, he apologizes for us? He, singlehandedly has been the most embarrassing president ever in our history. To think, what a legacy he could have been for the country, and for the black community.

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hopeforfuture

Oct-16-13 1:42 PM

Dear House of Representatives,

Please amend the Reid/McConnell "deal" and return it to the Senate. Thank you.

Best wishes, Keith. XOXO

They won't. It is written (figure of speech) Obama will have his way. I wish to apologize to our children and grandchildren.

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Ritty77

Oct-16-13 1:23 PM

Dear House of Representatives,

Please amend the Reid/McConnell "deal" and return it to the Senate. Thank you.

Best wishes, Keith. XOXO

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rmiller

Oct-16-13 12:56 PM

Rick,

"The only mistake is Obama..."

If that were only true.

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rmiller

Oct-16-13 12:53 PM

Cap,

"Obama signed the bill authorizing these payments since the submission of this letter."

True, political persuasion - great motivator!

Howard, no one can accuse you of not being fair and balanced.

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Capricorn1

Oct-16-13 12:36 PM

He had friends who's families did not receive the death benefits until 6 months to a year later. -Bornhere

During the Vietnam War many life insurance companies refused to cover military service members. As a result, the government established the Servicemen's Group Life Insurance(SGLI)Program in 1965. Now anyone that has been in the military or worked in government knows how slow the wheels turn when working through the paperwork required to get anything done. This was a brand new program being run by the government and it took many years to get it to the point it's at today. Like the housing policy, right or wrong, it's the way of the military.

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VinceKnauff

Oct-16-13 12:09 PM

'The republicans made sure those families had to vacate their housing within 30 days of losing their family member in combat' Al said.

Please elaborate on that claim. How exactly were Republicans at responsible for those policies? As Cap said, the military had their own rules. And what did Republicans control then? Seems like Congress was held by Democrats all through the Vietnam war.

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BornHere

Oct-16-13 11:42 AM

Alsever, my husband served during Viet Nam and he said you are correct.

Many times as he put it he witnessed families of fallen soldiers "booted out to the curb" with no money and no way back to their home towns. He had friends who's families did not receive the death benefits until 6 months to a year later.

I would like to thank you for helping these families in their time of need.

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Capricorn1

Oct-16-13 11:32 AM

The republicans made sure those families had to vacate their housing within 30 days of losing their family member in combat -Alsever

Neither republicans nor democrats control the policies enforced by the housing department at military bases and each branch of service has their own policies; many times policies even change from base to base depending on housing needs. During the draft housing was in extremely short supply which drove those policies. Right or wrong, it's the way of the military.

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