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October 20, 2013

The current fiasco the U.S. government is in has been provoked entirely by one of the major political parties....

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USABorn

Oct-20-13 2:03 AM

"If we are to deal honestly with the situation, basic facts must be recognized." I would suggest Mr. Saunders, that a good place to begin would be with your own provision of misinformation. Perhaps admitting your LTE is all just the usual biased democrat talking points with no honesty or basic facts provided.

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Tedeaux

Oct-20-13 4:08 AM

How to explain so much to poor Richard with so little space to comment? The Republicans have very little chance to have an impact on legislation these days with the Democrats blocking from the Senate and Whitehouse so the Republicans waited and chose to attach the defunding of Obamacare to a major funding bill. This was where they chose to make a stand on a law that was passed under the Democrat controlled congress and Whitehouse in the dark of night before anyone read it. We have to pass it so we can see what's in it, as you may remember. Well, they had time to read it and want to make changes to it before its too late. All by the legal legislative process unlike what the President has changed on the AHA law without legislative approval, which is illegal! We now enter the period where Barack Obama has complete carte blanche with the US Treasury!

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CaymanJim

Oct-20-13 4:35 AM

Why believe anything about Tedeaux's comments when he doesn't know that "White House" is two words, not one. Also, if Congress were, as he asserts, truly controlled by the Democrats, the Speaker of the House would NOT be John Boehner. Instead, that job would be in the hands of the highest-ranking Democrat in the HOR.

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eriklatranyi

Oct-20-13 5:06 AM

Another liberal LTE who said nothing when House Democrats used the same tactics to negotiate cuts in military spending under Reagan.

Liberals are absolute hypocrites.

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Capricorn1

Oct-20-13 5:26 AM

CaymanJim, you need to read Tedeaux's comment more carefully. He stated that currently the White House and Senate is controlled by Democrats, but when the ACA was passed, Democrats had full control.

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nobud74

Oct-20-13 6:23 AM

Cap, don't try to make sense with the libs here. They are drunk on power and kool-aid. BOTH parties are to blame. The Dems control 2/3 of our federal govt and when ACA was passed so we could read it they controlled the whole thing. But, let's not let facts get in the way of a good spin. I have traveled a bit recently and have spoken with many walks of life, to find the overwhelming majority are fearful of this mess called ACA--from millenials to the retired, they all say the same thing. I just can't understand where all the support for this law comes from, except maybe those who are expecting something for nothing.

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Premier

Oct-20-13 6:35 AM

"President Obamas budget for 2014 was $1,203 billion."

Wow, that would have been sweet. Unfortunatly it's 3.77 Trillion.

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mikekerstetter

Oct-20-13 6:48 AM

First I heard that one..... the Dems already compromised a great deal on the CR. Somebody's been drinking WAY too much of the kool aid.

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MrShaman

Oct-20-13 7:06 AM

"If we are to deal honestly with the situation, basic facts must be recognized."

I would suggest Mr. Saunders, that a good place to begin would be with your own provision of misinformation. Perhaps admitting your LTE is all just the usual biased democrat talking points with no honesty or basic facts provided." - USABorn

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Wow! You surely did tell HIM...and, all it took was...the usual biased "conservative" talking points with no basic facts provided.

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MrShaman

Oct-20-13 7:11 AM

How to explain so much to poor Richard with so little space to comment? The Republicans have very little chance to have an impact on legislation these days with the Democrats blocking from the Senate and Whitehouse so the Republicans waited and chose to attach the defunding of Obamacare to a major funding bill." - Tedeaux

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Yeah...Republicans have a habit of DOING that...when the legislation, THEY prefer, has no chance of passing on its own merits.

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See:

Q&A: Leslie & Andrew Cockburn - YouTube

(Watch: 4:45 thru 12:00)

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MrShaman

Oct-20-13 7:22 AM

Another liberal LTE who said nothing when House Democrats used the same tactics to negotiate cuts in military spending under Reagan." - eriklatranyi

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That's what Porky Limbaugh said, huh??

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See:

THE RONALD REAGAN MYTH . . . The Progressive Review

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"THE BIGGEST REAGAN LIE...is that he won the Cold War by terrifying the Soviets with Star Wars, upping defense expenditures, and generally being such a tough guy. The myth, though basically just GOP campaign spin, has been widely promulgated in current news coverage. The facts of the matter are quite different."

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MrShaman

Oct-20-13 7:26 AM

"I have traveled a bit recently and have spoken with many walks of life, to find the overwhelming majority are fearful of this mess called ACA--from millenials to the retired, they all say the same thing." - nobud74

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I'm guessing you'd prefer NOT to explain why you're walking...from-bar-to-bar, presently...right??

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CMReeder

Oct-20-13 7:50 AM

The right is still very delusional about what they have done.

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FortySixand2

Oct-20-13 8:00 AM

Facts, honoring truth even if not convenient. Both concepts that have well known liberal biases.

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hopeforfuture

Oct-20-13 8:17 AM

The right is still very delusional about what they have done.-CMReeder

Please don't let the exploits of the far left cloud your thinking. Most Conservative views see our personal rights taken away in small incriminates in the guise of helping those less fortunate. When is enough enough? When Christians have to where a symbol so the left knows who the enemy is?

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gavinf56

Oct-20-13 8:20 AM

This letter is so much liberal clap trap, the least Mr. Saunders could do is get his information right. Apparently he wasn't fully paying attention while listening to MSDNC.

The proposed budget passed by the Senate was the sequestration level funding, nothing less.

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gavinf56

Oct-20-13 8:21 AM

Straight from The Center For American Progress;

"When President Barack Obama first took office in 2009, his budgetproposed $1.203 trillion in discretionary spending for FY 2014. The Senate CR is about $216 billion, or nearly 18 percent, lower than that. Actual enacted funding levels for FY 2010, when the Democrats controlled both chambers of Congress, totaled$1.185 trillion in 2014 dollars. The Senate CR is about $200 billion below that, a cut of nearly 17 percent.

After the 2010 midterm elections, the Republican Party took control of the House of Representatives and offered a budget plan that proposed dramatic spending reductions. That plan, authored by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI), envisioned FY 2014 funding levels at $1.095 trillion. Note that the funding in the current Senate-passed CR is about 10 percent less than the levels in the original Ryan budget."

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Premier

Oct-20-13 8:25 AM

"Wow! You surely did tell HIM...and, all it took was...the usual biased "conservative" talking points with no basic facts provided." -Sham

Uh Sham, I provided a factoid for you but seemed to have over looked your little copy and paste finger thingy.

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gavinf56

Oct-20-13 8:26 AM

They are using proposed levels of spending from back in 2009 and calling it a spending cut.

Drink!

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FortySixand2

Oct-20-13 8:28 AM

Unfortunately for the rest of us who live in the reality based community, the right wing media bubble doesn't do facts and truth. That's the very reason fo its creation. The letter gives many facts and specific dollar figures, to which the typical wing nut hasn't been exposed to in wing nut media land. And in true cult like fashion, they are taught to mistrust all others.

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gavinf56

Oct-20-13 8:30 AM

"The letter gives many facts and specific dollar figures, to which the typical wing nut hasn't been exposed to in wing nut media land." - FortySixand2

They have already been fact checked and found to be false. Now what?

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Sullivan11

Oct-20-13 8:33 AM

Respectfully, all of you are missing the fundemental issue:

Where in US The Constitution is the federal government given the authority to administer social programs?

The Constitution prohibits the feds from doing anything not specifically authorized by The Constitution. The feds are authorized to establish a postal service, build roads, regulate interstate commerce, arm and discipline a militia (section 8, not the 2nd amendment), etc, where where is their authority to take my money at give it to someone else just because that someone else is less productive than me?

Our founding fathers specified an extremely limited federal in The Constitution because they were deathly afraid of a massive, corrupt, out-of-control, unaccountable central government.

So. Do you think their fears were well-founded?

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gavinf56

Oct-20-13 8:36 AM

...and for those who truly do not understand, a CR (Continuing Resolution) keeps the spending levels for each of area's of the Government at their currently budgeted levels, and they are generally passed to keep the Government operational current budget is being negotiated.

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Ritty77

Oct-20-13 11:16 AM

Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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CMReeder

Oct-20-13 12:47 PM

"Please don't let the exploits of the far left cloud your thinking. Most Conservative views see our personal rights taken away in small incriminates in the guise of helping those less fortunate. When is enough enough? When Christians have to where a symbol so the left knows who the enemy is?"

Even more delusion.

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