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The real majority

October 20, 2013

In response to Mark Stephen Nicholas, you're correct, the Democrats don't need any help making themselves look foolish and stupid....

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Scott36

Oct-21-13 10:20 AM

Capricorn, Thank you for the response. The way I see it though is that the "hard core" right would like to eliminate all social programs. I know of all of their talk of claiming not to, but I do not see them trying to improve any of them. My favorite is letting people "invest" their SS(or part of) on their own in the stock market. Might as well replace the word "invest" with "donate". Nice way to let Wall St. get access to a mandated deduction in a paycheck. If most people would know how to work the stock market, they would not be working a regular job. JMO-Scott

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JohnZook

Oct-21-13 10:13 AM

Alert, alert- the ACA log-in was NEVER MEANT TO WORK!! More smoke and mirrors from the gov't not meant to work. This admin. is only interested in over-regulating and jamming Marxist rules and regulations down the throats of freedom loving Americans. Who cares what Americans want- it's what the State needs.

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rredrose

Oct-21-13 9:43 AM

10,000 pages of the Health care act? Who even knows what is really in there? How can we be informed and educated by reading 10,000 pages of, I suspect, is a lot of propaganda and waste.

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Capricorn1

Oct-20-13 7:24 PM

Scott, I have said before that I think republicans blew it when they used the ACA as a bargaining chip. As far as I'm concerned, republicans should let the ACA fail on it's own and have the opportunity to say I told you so. What I'm really upset about is the fact that instead of using the ACA, republicans should have stuck to their guns regarding large scale cuts to government programs. They used the tactic during the Clinton shutdown and were able to achieve welfare reform as a result. The result of this so called democrat "win" accomplished absolutely nothing.

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Scott36

Oct-20-13 5:42 PM

Capricorn, You have a valid point. I am however curious as to your thoughts on my questions posed. I mean, in arguing politics, one needs to stick to one's guns. This, well they do it too, at times just does not cut it.-Scott

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Capricorn1

Oct-20-13 1:37 PM

Scott, my point was neither side is any better than the other when it comes to tactics such as obstruction. Following Bush's reelection, democrats went out of their way to ban together in attempt to block any legislation brought forward by Bush and the Republicans. Another good example is judicial appointments; 84 percent of all votes to filibuster judicial nominees in American history have been cast by Democrats. The point I was trying to make is that's it's hypocritical to label one party or the other as obstructionists. Both have used the tactic throughout history in attempt to get "their way".

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CMReeder

Oct-20-13 1:11 PM

"But, what Republicans have done is make Democratic stupidity and foolishness harder to notice given the efforts of the Republicans in the past several weeks."

The republicans keep piling it on.

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Scott36

Oct-20-13 1:07 PM

Capricorn1,

Just how do you see Ted Cruz in this last maneuver? You do not see this as obstructionism? Yes both sides attempt to block certain legislation. But seriously, with what has been happening in congress since 2010(tea party), 40+ votes to undo a law(which they KNEW was going nowhere), are you seriously trying to suggest that this is "business as usual"? You think that this is what is best for America, and her people? WHAT ever happened to "Jobs" that was campaigned on so much?-Scott

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Capricorn1

Oct-20-13 11:38 AM

I have to laugh when I constantly hear liberals call republicans or the tea party obstructionists. They obviously forget the many times they blocked legislation throughout history. Just in Bush's second term they blocked immigration reform, social security reform and an energy plan just to name a few. Why is it OK when liberals do it but the right are nothing but Obama hating obstructionists when they do the same? Why is it OK when liberals bash Bush at every turn, not only when he was in office, but still? But when anyone has a disparaging word against Obama they have to be racist? Does anyone see the hypocrisy in all this? I see it as business as usual on Capitol Hill.

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Scott36

Oct-20-13 9:53 AM

But, what Republicans have done is make Democratic stupidity and foolishness harder to notice given the efforts of the Republicans in the past several weeks.-DavidBross

This is, IMHO, true. It would seem that at least one of the con/tea arguments is correct-- They will not be outdone!!!LOL Scott

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DavidBross

Oct-20-13 9:18 AM

"the Democrats don't need any help making themselves look foolish and stupid." That is certainly true. But, what Republicans have done is make Democratic stupidity and foolishness harder to notice given the efforts of the Republicans in the past several weeks.

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FortySixand2

Oct-20-13 8:46 AM

You know what is almost tragically laughable? The logic, or lack thereof. If the ACA is so doomed to fail, say so...then sit down and shut up and let it fail! You come out the winner if you can provide a viable plan to replace it, yes? But that's not the right's real motivation, is it? No! They are absolutely terrified of it being successful! Many honest conservatives have already said so.

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CMReeder

Oct-20-13 7:43 AM

The writer is not speaking for the majority.

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mikekerstetter

Oct-20-13 7:41 AM

OK.... Phil McCraken (fill my crack in)??? There's one that got by the powers that be at the Sun Gazette.

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Premier

Oct-20-13 7:03 AM

Ah Yes, Obamacare and the grand web site Health Care .gov. I am one who needs to get insurance or be fined but can't do anything with the wesite.

I've created an account but log in takes me to "page not found". I can't get to the marketplace at all. Even filling out the "forgot username or pass word" {just in case} sends me NO EMAILS on the info as promised.

I talked to several very nice people who were there to help {24/7} at the 800 number and was told "I'm sorry but we can't help, have a pleasant evening."

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eriklatranyi

Oct-20-13 5:16 AM

The Obamacare website is the perfect example of the incompetence, waste and futility of creating massive, federal programs.

The $650 million-plus website is structurally flawed, not secure and incapable of providing a quote for health insurance anonymously.

What an improvement over the private sector!

More liberal lies on display!

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ArtFold

Oct-20-13 4:14 AM

Nice letter Mr. Phil McCraken! Prepare to have your intelligence attacked by the mind-numbed robots on the left in 3, 2, 1, ...

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Capricorn1

Oct-20-13 4:03 AM

"If I didn't know any better, this "new" information would make me believe that the aforementioned were more worried about getting their way than providing people with a sustainable health care system."

I couldn't agree more. Partisanship in government is so extreme, that's it's more about their side winning or losing, than what's best for this country. And you just need to read these letters and comments to see it has spread throughout America. I don't think this country has ever been this divided since the Vietnam War. A nation divided accomplishes nothing.

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