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Mudslinging

October 24, 2013

Mark Holt's letter about Liz Miele is nothing but mudslinging. Anyone who knows Liz Miele knows that she is sincere in her desire to help the city of Williamsport and it's residents....

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Capricorn1

Oct-24-13 5:48 AM

As a tax payer, Mr. Holt had every right to write in to express his opinion regarding Ms. Miele habitually being late to Council meetings. It was also nice to know that she chooses not to Pledge her Allegiance to our flag. I noticed you didn't make an attempt to dispute those facts in your letter.

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leaningright

Oct-24-13 6:12 AM

She should say the pledge and show up on time or resign. Thats my thoughts.

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MrShaman

Oct-24-13 6:16 AM

"It was also nice to know that she chooses not to Pledge her Allegiance to our flag." - Capricorn1

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That's pretty-important, to you, huh??

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leaningright

Oct-24-13 6:24 AM

Shaman- Yes, pleging the flag is important.

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Capricorn1

Oct-24-13 6:25 AM

"It was also nice to know that she chooses not to Pledge her Allegiance to our flag." - Capricorn1

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That's pretty-important, to you, huh?? -Shaman

As a matter of fact, it is. But we already know it means nothing to you and that's your personal choice. I, for one would not support anyone for office to serve the American people that has a problem with it.

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rmiller

Oct-24-13 7:52 AM

Funny, how Mr. Holt took his time to focus on accomplishments as opposed to responsibility and loyalty. Guess it's all in where our priorities lie.

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CMReeder

Oct-24-13 8:23 AM

How do you know the other letter is correct in it's content, Mr. Holt defended by saying the previous letter was nothing more than mudslinging.

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MimLogue

Oct-24-13 8:24 AM

She is late a lot Bill and She doesn"t care that the city s being ripped off by freeloaders who dont pay their water bills . She chooses not to say anything about that ?? On one hand she says she is thinks green but they waste water like nobodies business and leave the bill for landlords. If she was really green wouldnt she open her mouth??

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Capricorn1

Oct-24-13 8:45 AM

How do you know the other letter is correct in it's content, Mr. Holt defended by saying the previous letter was nothing more than mudslinging. -Reeder

Chuck, you're getting the letters confused. Mr. Holt wrote the original letter.

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CMReeder

Oct-24-13 8:58 AM

You are correct I have the authors confused sorry about that but still how do you know the first letter about Ms Miele is accurate to begin with?

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johnnyad3

Oct-24-13 9:00 AM

"It was also nice to know that she chooses not to Pledge her Allegiance to our flag."

How do you know she "chooses not to Pledge"? Did she actually say that or did Mr. Holt try to infer without any evidence? Just because she's late doesn't automatically mean she is doing it to avoid pledging to our flag.

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enigma

Oct-24-13 9:23 AM

It's only mudslinging if it isn't true. If she is late for nearly all council meetings and you point that out it's called information. I noticed that in his letter, Mr. Holt asked a lot of questions. Not one of them is answered in this letter. There is not one fact in this letter to support the writer's assertion that Ms. Miele is a dedicated public servant. If these two letters were all you had to go by, Miele would be losing the next election in a landslide.

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enigma

Oct-24-13 9:28 AM

"How do you know she "chooses not to Pledge"? Did she actually say that or did Mr. Holt try to infer without any evidence?"-Johnnyad3

If you read the letter, you will have your answer. He does have evidence. I personally believe that she is late because she is arrogant, but it could be the pledge thing. Either way she needs to go.

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Capricorn1

Oct-24-13 9:31 AM

"Four years ago at a Democratic breakfast before we ate, we said a prayer and then the Pledge of Allegiance. Everyone but Ms. Miele. She was drinking a cup of coffee and made no attempt to join in with the rest of us. Since that day I have attended meetings council and others with Ms. Miele. I have yet seen her recite the Pledge." - Mr. Holt

Chuck and Johnny, judging by this statement, one can safely assume that Mr. Holt personally witnessed that of what he is accusing her of. And as Enigma correctly pointed out, the author of this letter provided nothing to dispute Mr. Holt's statements. I understand you may choose not to believe any of it or pass it off as not important because Ms. Miele is a Democrat.

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johnnyad3

Oct-24-13 9:40 AM

Being a Democrat has nothing to do with this. If the letter is true and if Ms. Miele said she does not pledge, then I would agree with you and others. I would have a problem with that. If however, Mr. Holt is saying this because he has a problem with her, that is different.

Maybe someone should ask her instead of inferring. Then as enigma says, we have to believe it or not. I prefer to believe our civil servants are loyal to our country and our flag.

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ArtFold

Oct-24-13 9:45 AM

How many people who are habitually late for work would still have a job the next day?

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johnnyad3

Oct-24-13 9:58 AM

Also, if you look at the minutes, the meetings are called to order at 7:30, then there is the pledge, and then the first order of business is to approve the minutes of last meeting. She is always there for that. I question Mr. Holt's view. Is he saying she is hanging out in the hallway waiting for the less than 10 second pledge every meeting and then enters at 7:30:10 so she can vote on the minutes as she is walking to her chair?

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MrShaman

Oct-24-13 10:07 AM

"Shaman- Yes, pleging the flag is important."

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Makes you feel like a full-member, does it?

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MrShaman

Oct-24-13 10:13 AM

"It was also nice to know that she chooses not to Pledge her Allegiance to our flag." - Capricorn1

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That's pretty-important, to you, huh?? -Shaman

I, for one would not support anyone for office to serve the American people that has a problem with it." - Capricorn1

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Yeah...I'd imagine an independent-person WOULD be "suspect", by someone who's (more) used to esprit de corps.

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MrShaman

Oct-24-13 10:20 AM

"Just because she's late doesn't automatically mean she is doing it to avoid pledging to our flag." - johnnyad3

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...But...if she did..so what??

TOO-often, it seems...those folks who are SO ADAMANT about "pledging"...are the (same) folks who prefer not to pay taxes; wherever/whenever they can.

Where's the consistency?

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MrShaman

Oct-24-13 10:23 AM

"I noticed that in his letter, Mr. Holt asked a lot of questions. Not one of them is answered in this letter." - enigma

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That surely does work for Glenn Beck!!

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Capricorn1

Oct-24-13 10:28 AM

Johnny, did you miss the statement where she sat in her chair at the prayer breakfast while everyone stood to recite the Pledge?

As for you Shaman, you don't even rate a response any more. Your hatred for just about everything except big government and liberalism speaks volumes.

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MrShaman

Oct-24-13 10:30 AM

"Four years ago at a Democratic breakfast before we ate, we said a prayer and then the Pledge of Allegiance. Everyone but Ms. Miele. She was drinking a cup of coffee and made no attempt to join in with the rest of us. Since that day I have attended meetings council and others with Ms. Miele. I have yet seen her recite the Pledge." - Mr. Holt

Chuck and Johnny, judging by this statement, one can safely assume that Mr. Holt personally witnessed that of what he is accusing her of." - Capricorn1

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No doubt!! Assumptions are EXTREMELY-critical to folks who believe something...and, are DESPERATE for any "facts" that support their beliefs!!

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MrShaman

Oct-24-13 10:34 AM

"How do you know she "chooses not to Pledge"? Did she actually say that or did Mr. Holt try to infer without any evidence?"-Johnnyad3

If you read the letter, you will have your answer. He does have evidence. I personally believe that she is late because she is arrogant, but it could be the pledge thing. Either way she needs to go." - enigma

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...And...this has got NOTHING, to do, with rac...er...GENDER...right?

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MrShaman

Oct-24-13 10:41 AM

"Being a Democrat has nothing to do with this. If the letter is true and if Ms. Miele said she does not pledge, then I would agree with you and others. I would have a problem with that. If however, Mr. Holt is saying this because he has a problem with her, that is different.

Maybe someone should ask her instead of inferring." - johnnyad3

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...And...in the interest of saving time...you could always double-down, with the ol' standards...and, ask her if she IS...or, has ever BEEN...a member o' the Communist Party.

We can't very-well allow Ted Cruz to hog ALL the McCarthy-predilections!!!!!!

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