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Expert advises not to panic over the Affordable Care Act

October 23, 2013

There’s been a lot of talk about how one enrolls in insurance provided by the Affordable Care Act, colloquially known as Obamacare....

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LeisureSuitLarry

Oct-25-13 5:20 AM

Congratulations. Here you go:

williamsportpachat . proboards . com /

(minus the spaces)

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rmiller

Oct-24-13 10:49 PM

Larry,

The cold weather does tend to keep em in! LOL! I should visit your forum. It's been some time and I check in on the other forum only once in awhile. I miss when we all chatted, not always in agreement, but always with respect and civility! Since I last spoke with you, Ive become a grandma, all of 11 months old and I'm loving it! Today I got my first glimpse of my second grandchild coming in June - same family. I think you recall my son is a Pastor and he and his family live in CT., very liberal state! Post the site url again for me, please. If you'd rather, send it to my email. raeaason @ Comcast . net

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LeisureSuitLarry

Oct-24-13 9:30 PM

Been hanging in there, best as I can. How about you? Not a whole lot happening at the forums these days. Both the Cent. PA Liberty & Freedom (formerly Tea Party) and my board WilliamsportPAChat seem kind of slow, but maybe that will change with the cold weather coming in.

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rmiller

Oct-24-13 7:29 AM

Good morning Leisure! Welcome back! How have you been?

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LeisureSuitLarry

Oct-24-13 5:41 AM

Bravo rmiller at Oct-23-13 4:43 PM - I totally agree. And ericofwilliamsport, for the record, Obama is a liar, an ass, a tyrant, likely the 3rd anti-chist predicted by Nostradamus, a buffoon, a snob, a sorry excuse for a human being, an elitist, an arrogant pig. Did I forget anything? Oh, did I say liar? He does not deserve any respect.

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rmiller

Oct-23-13 10:26 PM

Rick,

Come on, you are too smart for this bantering about a lie. You didn't tell it, none of us told it, but Obama did lie. Journalists from both sides of the aisle are playing the sound bites over and over...

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ToTEXASfromPA

Oct-23-13 10:03 PM

re-line -----> red-line

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ToTEXASfromPA

Oct-23-13 10:02 PM

Many things, President BHO is vague about, will take the extreme case to make a point, or is very selective in wording to give wiggle room. Yes Rick424, he lied. Kind of like that re-line comment......or the famous Father President Bush "read my lips, no new taxes." BHO essentially said..... Read my lips; you can keep your current insurance plan.

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Ritty77

Oct-23-13 8:01 PM

"If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period." He said it a hundred times.

I liked my plan, Rick. I could not keep it specifically because the ACA said it didn't meet the new minimum requirements.

Had Obama said, "If you like your health care plan, AND IT MEETS THE NEW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period.", then it wouldn't be a lie. But he quite purposely didn't say it like that. He lied. He has lied many times about many things.

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gavinf56

Oct-23-13 7:58 PM

No matter how it is spun, health care costs are going to remain the same and will continue to rise. The only difference the ACA makes is how and who pays for it.

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rick424

Oct-23-13 7:34 PM

Yes Gavin that is three reasons and I am sure there are more. So the system as we had it is broken and needs fixed. ericwilliamsport also had some good points. and no Ritty, president Obama did not lie.

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Ritty77

Oct-23-13 6:31 PM

"This was in response after Ritty said president Obama was a liar."

But Obama DID lie, didn't he Rick?

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gavinf56

Oct-23-13 6:29 PM

So the Democrats shut down the Government to save the individual mandate. So if they delay it now, what are they going to say?

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gavinf56

Oct-23-13 6:24 PM

"Maybe we should look at what happened over all these years that got us into this situation." - rick424

Technology and the lengthened time one can live with an illness, an aging population, and a growing segment of the population that is overweight or obese are 3 quick reasons.

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gavinf56

Oct-23-13 6:20 PM

"...not the $40 tylenol." - ericwilliamsport

The Tylenol is still going to cost $40. Nothing in the ACA changed that. What changed is how it is going to be paid for.

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rick424

Oct-23-13 6:11 PM

What the heck. I just said mine went down, which it did. This was in response after Ritty said president Obama was a liar. Take a chill pill rmiller. And yes rmiller I am truly sorry what happened. Maybe someone should find out why this happened instead of throwing harpoones at me. Geeez.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Oct-23-13 6:07 PM

"and the President is the bad guy while the Insurance CEO's are struggling with the decision of where to slip the yacht during tropical storms."--ericwilliamsport

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And as those democrat politicians were being wined, dined, entertained, and business tripped to the exotic vacation places by the executives from the health insurance companies (deciding where to berth their yacht) they were the ones that proposed and passed legislation dictating how the system was to work and be implemented.

Can not you see the fallacy in your logic!

President Obama and the democrat congressmen own this pile of bull manure called ObamaCare.

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rmiller

Oct-23-13 4:55 PM

Rick,

If you were "truly sorry" and for what happened to Keith, you wouldn't have gone to extra lengths to post that your insurance premiums went down and cap it with no change for you. No salt in the wound, there is it?

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rmiller

Oct-23-13 4:53 PM

" the President is the bad guy while the Insurance CEO's are struggling with the decision of where to slip the yacht during tropical storms. "

Wow eric, you are seething with class envy.

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rmiller

Oct-23-13 4:52 PM

"just don't you dare tell me I need health insurance even if I still expect to get emergency treatment from anything from an ear ache to a car accident... "

(1) I thought health care was a choice?

(2) emergency treatment for everything from an earache to an automobile accident? Most accidents are covered by auto insurance and

(3) Hopefully, you nor a loved one will never need to be treated for an automobile or otherwise serious situation. Comparing an earache to an automobile accident? I think you've had your iphone in your ear too much.

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rmiller

Oct-23-13 4:47 PM

The "demand" you speak to eric, is the amount of people in large part, who were most likely curious enough to see how things are really going to work. I feel bad for you Keith. You've worked all your life and for one person's narcissism moment in time, you and millions of others will pay for his vendetta on our country. What about your wife?

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rmiller

Oct-23-13 4:43 PM

ericwilliamsport,

Do you own an iphone? If you do, it is none of our business, just asking to hopefully prove a point.

In addition, the office of the presidency is respected, not by calling it by name, but living up to its name. Your CIC, and I say your CIC, because I did not vote for him. Let me clarify things however. He doesn't get my respect because I didn't vote for him. He doesn't get my respect because of the inner man that IMO, does not and has not qualified in any manner for the office of presidency. And, FTR, Bush was called every horrific name under the sun, except president. You want to stay loyal to one who wouldn't stay loyal to you, that's your business, but don't place your desires on my heart. You don't really understand, do you? The majority of Americans don't trust or like this person and the polls are sliding by the day.

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Ritty77

Oct-23-13 4:31 PM

"And what a terrible problem to have, the ACA is so UNsuccessful and so many people don't want it, that the system was overloaded for demand."

Oh, too much demand. Drink! Demand dropped off 90% the second week and it still didn't work. Obama is wholly dependent on low information dolts who swallow and parrot his lies. You must be so proud.

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ericwilliamsport

Oct-23-13 3:36 PM

As long as we have our iPhones and our Droids that cost $200 just for the privilege to use even before the data and text message plan to go with it that costs us another $1500 over 2 years... and not think twice about how outrageous that is. Yet we think rising health insurance is a rip off still? Nooooo, as long as we get our iPhones, just don't you dare tell me I need health insurance even if I still expect to get emergency treatment from anything from an ear ache to a car accident... But hey at least all your kids have iPhones and data plans now, and the President is the bad guy while the Insurance CEO's are struggling with the decision of where to slip the yacht during tropical storms.

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ericwilliamsport

Oct-23-13 3:22 PM

And what a terrible problem to have, the ACA is so UNsuccessful and so many people don't want it, that the system was overloaded for demand.

I like how it helps over 30% of all citizens in all states, more than 50% in many states, and over 70% of citizens in a few states... but I guess it is such a terrible thing anyway.

It shouldn't be news to you that health insurance has raised every year for as many years as I've been off my parents insurance. Luckily now, you can point a finger at the ACA to blame while ignoring the fact it has been going up all the while. Show me a poor insurance company officer. Your healthcare rates were already too high, but the President is the one to blame I guess, not the $40 tylenol.

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