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The White House buck doesn't seem to stop anywhere

October 28, 2013

Former president Harry Truman was famous for insisting that anything that went wrong in federal government was his responsibility. “The buck stops here,” he realized....

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USABorn

Oct-28-13 3:09 AM

According to the liar in the White House, illegals will not be eligible for Dumbamacare. That makes this sentence in the article interesting....

"a Spanish-language version will not be ready for weeks)."

Since one of the requirements of U.S. citizenship is the ability to speak English, why is a spanish-language version required?

Just another lie, like all the rest of them., i.e., if you like your plan you can keep it, if you like your doctor you can keep him/her, your premiums will go down, etc., etc., etc. Just one lie after another!!

It's no wonder Dumbama is called the Liar-in-Chief."

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MrShaman

Oct-28-13 5:40 AM

"No wonder the federal government is dysfunctional."

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'Tis TRUE!!

More-often-than-not, we're getting business-managers who will say whatever's required, to keep their customers in-the-dark.

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See:

Daily Kos: A Software Developer's View On The HealthCare Glitches

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nobud74

Oct-28-13 7:57 AM

Yeah, Shammy, just keep defending the inept. You can bet your a55 if it were a conservative in office you'd be having a regular hissy fit. A little consistency, please.

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USABorn

Oct-28-13 8:16 AM

In the 5 years since Dumbama took office, according to him, the buck has consistently stopped on "W's" desk!

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MrShaman

Oct-28-13 8:41 AM

"Yeah, Shammy, just keep defending the inept." - nobud74

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I'm not defending anything. I'm (merely) trying to point-out (to the T-Bagger/NASCAR-fans, here) that...first-generation software has NEVER been PERFECT. It's (typically) one MORE example o' the marketplace insisting "Quality is #1!"....when SCHEDULE has become MUCH-MORE "important"!!!!

NO business-manager sees his share o' bonuses...if he tells HIS manager..."We need a little-more time, to get it right."

I can't (really) rightfully/honestly expect the average T-Bagger to fully-grasp this concept/practice. Their personal-experience (with such matters), is much-too-shallow.

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MrShaman

Oct-28-13 8:45 AM

"In the 5 years since Dumbama took office, according to him, the buck has consistently stopped on "W's" desk!" - USABorn

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Typically, before final-distribution by The DICK; Cheney.....

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See:

Iraq War Profiteers: Part 1 of 2 - YouTube

&

Iraq War Profiteers - Part 2 of 2 - YouTube

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FortySixand2

Oct-28-13 9:00 AM

So in this "government takeover" of our healthcare system, the gov't employed private, for profit tech firms to set up the sign-up website and.....it didn't go so well. Maybe it should've been done in house by competent gov't employees. With the use of private contractors, it always costs more. And when they screw it up, you pay for the cost over-run.

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Capricorn1

Oct-28-13 12:51 PM

It's (typically) one MORE example o' the marketplace insisting "Quality is #1!"....when SCHEDULE has become MUCH-MORE "important"!!!! Shaman

The manager is in the oval office, and he set the schedule. Many in the industry requested implementation be postponed a year, but Obama chose to only give out extensions to his liking. Software of this importance should have undergone major testing before implementation, but because Obama was unwilling to negotiate implementation terms, they just ran with what they had. When you have the President demanding that the software be ready, did you expect any other outcome?

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MrShaman

Oct-29-13 5:28 AM

It's (typically) one MORE example o' the marketplace insisting "Quality is #1!"....when SCHEDULE has become MUCH-MORE "important"!!!! Shaman

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The manager is in the oval office, and he set the schedule." - Capricorn1

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You might know a "few" things about the U.S. military, but you (QUITE) obviously don't know a whole-lot about Corporate America. It's not your fault, but...like most o' the T-Baggers...you're critiquing a process where you've got EXTREMELY-limited experience...much like the average-politician (who's secretaries are "managing the shop" and dealing with software issues).

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MrShaman

Oct-29-13 5:37 AM

"Maybe it should've been done in house by competent gov't employees." - FortySixand2

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During the BU$HCO-era, when "running the government like a business"...it appears any-and-all "competent gov't employees" were deemed a duplication of effort.

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See:

Iraq for sale - Part 6 [YouTube]

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Capricorn1

Oct-29-13 5:48 AM

Shaman, I have many years experience with corporate America and government contracts, both on the government side and the contractor side. So please, don't state that which YOU know nothing about. Were you ever involved in negotiating government contracts? Were you ever a program manager in which you had to work within the guidelines of government contracts? I have done both many times.

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MrShaman

Oct-29-13 8:00 AM

Capricorn1 Oct-29-13 5:48 AM Agree | Disagree

Shaman...Were you ever involved in negotiating government contracts? Were you ever a program manager in which you had to work within the guidelines of government contracts? I have done both many times." - Capricorn1

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...And, per your military-indoctrination...and, the CORPORATE chain-o'-command...you did what you were TOLD-to-do...without asking a lot o' questions. That's why the corporate-world LOVES to hire vets!

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Capricorn1

Oct-29-13 8:36 AM

Once again Shaman, what experience do you have negotiating government contracts or managing government contractor projects? You have none. You're once again showing your ignorance by attacking my experience because you have NONE. Now move along.

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nobud74

Oct-29-13 9:12 AM

I'm not defending anything. I'm (merely) trying to point-out (to the T-Bagger/NASCAR-fans, here) that...first-generation software has NEVER been PERFECT. It's (typically) one MORE example o' the marketplace insisting "Quality is #1!"....when SCHEDULE has become MUCH-MORE "important"!!!! --Shammy

So, if your messiah and his minions are so darn smart, (not) why didn't they know this and plan accordingly? The bottom line is they are uniformly inept across the board. Business would never release something so screwed up because their bottom line depends upon results. Govt just throws more of our money at it.

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Capricorn1

Oct-29-13 10:38 AM

Business would never release something so screwed up because their bottom line depends upon results. Govt just throws more of our money at it. -Gavin

Gavin, this situation happens ALL the time with government contracts and it often results in cost overruns, especially when the government is constantly changing the requirements of the contract. I can only imagine how many times the government went back to this company requesting software changes. Do you really think those negotiating the contact fully understood the law and what they were asking for when the contract was awarded? Especially when dealing with software of this magnitude. I've spent enough time with government contracts and none of this surprises me. The reason I place some of the blame on Obama is because I am quite confident his advisors kept him informed as to the status of this contract and the issues they were having. I'm also confident that they were instructed to go live with the software regardless.

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BubbaZanetti

Oct-30-13 9:39 PM

Shaman: "And, per your military-indoctrination...and, the CORPORATE chain-o'-command...you did what you were TOLD-to-do...without asking a lot o' questions. That's why the corporate-world LOVES to hire vets!" "Typically, before final-distribution by The DICK; Cheney" You sound like another "DICK" I know. Richard Sahn.

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MrShaman

Oct-31-13 5:59 AM

Capricorn1 Oct-28-13 12:51 PM Agree | Disagree

It's (typically) one MORE example o' the marketplace insisting "Quality is #1!"....when SCHEDULE has become MUCH-MORE "important"!!!! Shaman

The manager is in the oval office, and he set the schedule. When you have the President demanding that the software be ready, did you expect any other outcome?" - Capricorn1

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Actually, the President is a CEO (if we're gonna use corporate-terms)...the CEO who'd ordered the software. The software-developers have their OWN corporate-structure.

Once this is (all) ironed-out...and, seeing-as-how profit-margin is involved...it WILL be...it's going to be really interesting to (finally) hear all o' the inter-department lying/"excuses", this event precipitated, withIN the software-developers corporate-structure!!

I thought you said you HAD experience within such environments??? Obviously not.

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MrShaman

Oct-31-13 6:03 AM

"It's no wonder Dumbama is called the Liar-in-Chief." - USABorn

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...Primarily by you folks who'd "bought" the whole WMD-hu$tle.

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MrShaman

Oct-31-13 6:07 AM

"You're once again showing your ignorance by attacking my experience because you have NONE. Now move along." - Capricorn1

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There's no need to start whining.

I'd never "attacked" your experience. I'd (only) pointed-out your unfamiliarity with software development/issues.

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MrShaman

Oct-31-13 6:11 AM

I'm not defending anything. I'm (merely) trying to point-out (to the T-Bagger/NASCAR-fans, here) that...first-generation software has NEVER been PERFECT. It's (typically) one MORE example o' the marketplace insisting "Quality is #1!"....when SCHEDULE has become MUCH-MORE "important"!!!! --Shammy

So, if your messiah and his minions are so darn smart, (not) why didn't they know this and plan accordingly?" - nobud74

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I'm assuming the President had a "few" other things, on his "plate", at the time.

You T-Baggers are expecting him to "babysit" Corporate America, as WELL??!!!!

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MrShaman

Oct-31-13 6:23 AM

Gavin, this situation happens ALL the time with government contracts and it often results in cost overruns, especially when the government is constantly changing the requirements of the contract. I can only imagine how many times the government went back to this company requesting software changes.

The reason I place some of the blame on Obama is because I am quite confident his advisors kept him informed as to the status of this contract and the issues they were having." - Capricorn1

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...Much like the various-levels o' management (within the software-developer's structure) keeping each-other "informed"...as-long-as the info satisfied upper-management...whether that info was accurate/truthful, or, not.

You've got much-to-learn (about corporate-politics), Grasshopper.

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