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Is it less?

October 28, 2013

However you view who is at fault for the recent government shutdown, we should be looking to see if less is what we want in government....

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gavinf56

Oct-29-13 5:22 AM

Hey Ritty, NBC News has now scrubbed that article that you refer to in your 6:23 PM post from their website.

Can you say "coercion".

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rmiller

Oct-28-13 11:07 PM

Obama has launched a class and ethnic warfare the likes as never been seen in this country to include the Civil War Era. The only pages not written yet are the battles...but this isn't over yet! Fortunately, we have black people who are educated and see past his color for who he truly is, a divisive and narcissist dictator.

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rmiller

Oct-28-13 11:01 PM

Someone, anyone on the left, please tell us that we are wrong...please tell us that we didn't hear Obama P R O M I S E not once, but several times that "If you like your policy, you can keep your policy." Tell us that was our imagination, please.

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Ritty77

Oct-28-13 8:20 PM

Saw that. On Sunday, MHP had the graphic: "This Week in Voter Suppression"

Drink!

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gavinf56

Oct-28-13 7:15 PM

...and as the rest of the news stations, nightly news shows, and late night comedians talk about the ACA and the problems with it's implementation, MSDNC continues to focus on Ted Cruz and the "Culture of Hate" within the Republican Party.

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Ritty77

Oct-28-13 6:40 PM

Oops. Last word is "today."

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Ritty77

Oct-28-13 6:26 PM

>continued>

"That means the administration knew that more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them.

"Yet President Obama, who had promised in 2009, “if you like your health plan, you will be able to keep your health plan,” was still saying in 2012, “If [you] already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance.”

“This says that when they made the promise, they knew half the people in this market outright couldn’t keep what they had and then they wrote the rules so that others couldn’t make it either,” said Robert Laszewski, of Health Policy and Strategy Associates, a consultant who works for health industry firms. Laszewski estimates that 80 percent of those in the individual market will not be able to keep their current policies and will have to buy insurance that meets requirements of the new law, which generally requires a richer package of benefits than most policies to

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Ritty77

Oct-28-13 6:24 PM

>continued>

"None of this should come as a shock to the Obama administration. The law states that policies in effect as of March 23, 2010 will be “grandfathered,” meaning consumers can keep those policies even though they don’t meet requirements of the new health care law. But the Department of Health and Human Services then wrote regulations that narrowed that provision, by saying that if any part of a policy was significantly changed since that date -- the deductible, co-pay, or benefits, for example -- the policy would not be grandfathered.

"Buried in Obamacare regulations from July 2010 is an estimate that because of normal turnover in the individual insurance market, “40 to 67 percent” of customers will not be able to keep their policy. And because many policies will have been changed since the key date, “the percentage of individual market policies losing grandfather status in a given year exceeds the 40 to 67 percent range.”

>continued>

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Ritty77

Oct-28-13 6:23 PM

From NBC News:

"President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.

"Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC NEWS that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law. One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.”

>continued>

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Ritty77

Oct-28-13 3:59 PM

Most of America didn't know about or didn't care about the "shutdown." It was such a non-event that Obama had to shutdown things that never get shut down. Whatever little bump Obama got by prevailing over the GOP, he immediately squandered with his obvious spitefulness and pettiness.

Obama is a lame duck. No more big agenda items will get passed. He!!, even Hillary said it's time for a change.

Obamacare is a bad joke and the WH has actually been questioned about its blatant lies about the costs and availability of health insurance. Obama will be on defense for the rest of his term: Benghazi, IRS, NSA, etc.

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Scott36

Oct-28-13 3:16 PM

Well, I hate to break it to you, but it appears that most of America did not like the shut down. Like it or not the Rep./tea party is taking the brunt of the blame for it. They campaigned on it, did it, & now want to blame it all on the President/Dems.--Go figure. LOL

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Ritty77

Oct-28-13 2:56 PM

"The call for less government only has given us a government that is woefully inadequate in its duties." CMReeder

So just "the call" for less government has rendered it "woefully inadequate in its duties." Sounds to me like government is wasteful and inept.

The government is bigger and more costly than ever in this country's history. And each year it gets bigger and more costly.

Government and its sycophants need to learn to do with less. Less money, less employees, less handouts, less services, less waste, and less dependents.

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BornHere

Oct-28-13 2:17 PM

Remember the gulf oil spill?

Both industry and government are to blame for the BP spill.

BP's Texas City, Texas Refinery where 15 died and 150 were injured happened in 2005 under Bush's watch.

Bush, Cheney and the GOP set the stage for the BP oil spill, deregulation of the oil industry resulted in the greatest environmental disaster ever in US history. Remember the Energy Policy Act of 2005?

It wasn't just the Democrat's who missed the mark on BP, it also was the Republican's.

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mikekerstetter

Oct-28-13 1:51 PM

enigma-"Bobbie, You're as bad as Sham and Chuck, Grow up!"

Funny, I just told Bobbie that (s)he was the rights version of Chuck the other day on a different thread. You're not the only one to think so.

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enigma

Oct-28-13 1:09 PM

Bobbie, You're as bad as Sham and Chuck, Grow up!

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eriklatranyi

Oct-28-13 11:21 AM

enigma said:

"Obama is truly the worst administrator in the history of the world."

Just look at the spying on Germany and other allies!

Obama said he knew nothing about it, but somehow, the White House ordered the spying to expand at first and then stop this summer.

What does President Obama really do for the money we pay him?

He knew nothing about Fast & Furious. He knew nothing about the IRS targeting political groups. He knew nothing about Benghazi. He knew nothing about spying on James Rosen. He knew nothing about Healthcare.gov website.

But he knew everything about killing Bin Laden! Oh, he ran to take credit for that!

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enigma

Oct-28-13 10:57 AM

"Referring to National Parks and Monuments I suggest the Government owns too much of the People's land and, it's management of is p poor."-richardson

I did some looking and I found that the budget for the National Park Service is just over $10 per visitor. Since the admission to most of the parks is more than that, why were they shut down? The government actually lost money doing that. Not to mention that they spent as much or more money closing them down as it costs to keep them open. Obama is truly the worst administrator in the history of the world.

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richardson

Oct-28-13 10:09 AM

Most of Reeder's losses from the shutdown are losses that we used to take care of ourselves. And, That is the differnce between Right and Left. Referring to National Parks and Monuments I suggest the Government owns too much of the People's land and, it's management of is p poor.

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enigma

Oct-28-13 8:34 AM

Poor Chuck, for two whole weeks he couldn't steal pic-a-nic baskets in Jellystone Park. Chuck may be smarter than the average bear, but he's dumber than the average sheep. Even most of the sheeple out there knew that the 'shutdown' was just political theater, but Chuck thought it was real. He's also just dumb enough to think that a fake shutdown and a real slimdown would look the same. His thinking is so invested in big government that he can't get his nose out of Obama's rectum long enough to see what freedom smells like.

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Capricorn1

Oct-28-13 7:51 AM

Remember the gulf oil spill? It was found that the regulators who were tasked with ensuring work was done in compliance with regulations were sitting in their offices watching *********** at taxpayer's expense. -Erik

Or how about the gas industry. Many on the left are against the industry and blame government for being corrupt and not doing their job regulating the industry. So they admit government is ineffective and corrupt only when it suits their agenda.

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eriklatranyi

Oct-28-13 7:47 AM

I the Tea Party wants to have a discussion about waste in gov't spending, liberals say we just want to eliminate all safety nets. Liberals never address the billions in waste and duplicate programs.

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Capricorn1

Oct-28-13 7:45 AM

I should say it worked for people that are blind to what is really happening and follow along like sheep. Chuck is an example of that and to the sheep, no amount of government is too much.

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eriklatranyi

Oct-28-13 7:44 AM

Liberals love to say that our food is safely due to a bloated federal gov't.

Unfortunately, we still have salmonella outbreaks, food poisonings and other problems.

So, the program is not effective, like most gov't programs.

Remember the gulf oil spill? It was found that the regulators who were tasked with ensuring work was done in compliance with regulations were sitting in their offices watching *********** at taxpayer's expense.

Nobody fired.

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Capricorn1

Oct-28-13 7:37 AM

Spike, I have to disagree. If you look at how much of the government was shutdown in dollars, then it was just 17%. The military was still being paid, government entitlements were still going out, and many other exempted programs were still operating. While 17% is still a huge number when you are talking about a government that is bloated to the breaking point and requires 4 trillion a year to feed, most Americans were unaffected because 83% of government was still being funded. IMO that's why they chose to close monuments and parks because people most are unaffected and this was a way to make republican leadership look bad by picking "targets" that are highly visible and often emotional for so many. And it worked.

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spike2

Oct-28-13 6:47 AM

The shut down dd not last long enough for our area to feel any effect. We have few federal employees beyond the 3rd circuit and the nearby prisons. We do not have national parks or military bases. We do not have businesses who survive by providing service to these entities. We actually do not know how life may have changed for us if the shutdown continued.

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