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Judge endorsement

October 29, 2013

The general election is coming upon us. There is a choice for the Pennsylvania Superior Court Justice and the choice couldn’t be clearer....

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MrShaman

Oct-29-13 5:54 AM

I've never felt all-that-comfortable electing judges. How could the average-voter (even) KNOW how accurately a potential-judge has done his job, in the past??

When a state's bar-association is (MUCH) more knowledgeable of an individuals past-performance, it'd make much-more-sense allowing THEM to APPOINT judges.

We've already seen examples where incompetent/inexperienced-people make the final-decisions.

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See:

Bill Maher on elites [YouTube]

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Capricorn1

Oct-29-13 6:51 AM

So now Bill Maher is the subject matter expert. Who's next, Pee Wee Herman?

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MrShaman

Oct-29-13 8:07 AM

"So now Bill Maher is the subject matter expert. Who's next, Pee Wee Herman?" - Capricorn1

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So...you're in-favor of incompetency, where laws/delivery-of are involved, huh?

I'm not surprised. I'm guessing convenience is more-than-a-little important, for you. Other people "might" see that as a tendency towards laziness.

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MrShaman

Oct-29-13 8:10 AM

Capricorn,

As long as its on "youtube" its a bona-fide fact!" - robert72

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...And (in this instance), inarguable...as you've just demonstrated.

Good choice.

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Capricorn1

Oct-29-13 8:48 AM

So...you're in-favor of incompetency, where laws/delivery-of are involved, huh? -Shaman

Happens all the time in our jury system.., case in point, the OJ trial.

You are insinuating that the American people are not intelligent enough to vote for a qualified judge. I guess you kind of have a point judging by who they voted to the most powerful position in the country.

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JohnZook

Oct-29-13 9:01 AM

Hey Sham, you DID check out the alien moon base on the dark side of the moon on YouTube, didn't you? It was discovered in the Carter years and the aliens helped plan the Iran hostage rescue.........

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MrShaman

Oct-29-13 11:30 AM

So...you're in-favor of incompetency, where laws/delivery-of are involved, huh? -Shaman

You are insinuating that the American people are not intelligent enough to vote for a qualified judge." - Capricorn1

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Correct.

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MrShaman

Oct-29-13 11:36 AM

So...you're in-favor of incompetency, where laws/delivery-of are involved, huh? -Shaman

Happens all the time in our jury system..." - Capricorn1

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Ah, yes...the ol' CHUMP-tactic...change the subject...

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See:

Monica Goodling - SourceWatch

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rredrose

Oct-29-13 12:14 PM

I just need to let you all know, we should be concerned! I think Mr Shaman needs a top notch neurosurgeon! He seems to be missing his own brain! Quoting all the other peoples' opinions and websites, etc.

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KrazyK

Oct-29-13 12:34 PM

I question the use of LTE's to directly endorse candidates at election time.

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Capricorn1

Oct-29-13 12:51 PM

So...you're in-favor of incompetency, where laws/delivery-of are involved, huh? -Shaman

You are insinuating that the American people are not intelligent enough to vote for a qualified judge." - Capricorn1

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Correct. -Shaman

Do you realize how asinine that sounds? You trust Americans to vote for the person to hold the highest office in the country and has the power at his fingertips to start a nuclear war, but they aren't qualified to elect a local judge. Are you really that inept or did a judge in your past give you a bad rap?

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CMReeder

Oct-29-13 12:55 PM

If the people are not qualified enough to elect a judge, who is qualified to appoint one? We have judges who are appointed that have been question about their abilities.

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Capricorn1

Oct-29-13 12:59 PM

If the people are not qualified enough to elect a judge, who is qualified to appoint one? We have judges who are appointed that have been question about their abilities. -Reeder

Exactly!

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CarlHiller

Oct-29-13 1:44 PM

There are actually 2 good choices for this Superior Court judgeship, Jack McVay and Vic Stabile. Either would be a good choice. Both have received a"recommended" rating from the PA Bar Assoc.

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MrShaman

Oct-29-13 1:59 PM

So...you're in-favor of incompetency, where laws/delivery-of are involved, huh? -Shaman

You are insinuating that the American people are not intelligent enough to vote for a qualified judge." - Capricorn1

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Correct. -Shaman

Do you realize how asinine that sounds?" - Capricorn1

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Stand-down, Jarhead!!

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See:

Former Texas Chief Justice Explains Why Judicial Elections Are A Terrible Idea

"Even to mail campaign literature, you’ve got to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars” — and that money has to come from somewhere. In the past, it’s often come from litigants with business before the court."

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Ritty77

Oct-29-13 2:19 PM

Carl, I see you put "recommended" in quotes. I remember reading or hearing something a while ago about how that really doesn't mean what it sounds like. I forget what the deal was. Anyhow, just caught my eye, is all.

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Capricorn1

Oct-29-13 3:44 PM

"Even to mail campaign literature, you’ve got to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars” — and that money has to come from somewhere. In the past, it’s often come from litigants with business before the court." -Shaman

And that differs from lobbyist that donate to congressional and presidential campaigns how? They too end up getting favors in return. It's called politics as usual.

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MrShaman

Oct-29-13 4:58 PM

"Even to mail campaign literature, you’ve got to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars” — and that money has to come from somewhere. In the past, it’s often come from litigants with business before the court." -Shaman

And that differs from lobbyist that donate to congressional and presidential campaigns how?" - Capricorn1

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Aw, gee....another change-o'-subject.

I'm "shocked".

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enigma

Oct-29-13 5:02 PM

"based upon his "solid" appellate experience, "strong intellect", "passion for the law", and "even temperament"."

What about justice and the Constitution, where does he stand on those?

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Capricorn1

Oct-29-13 5:33 PM

I didn't change the subject and you didn't answer the question as usual. What is the difference in prior or future litigants that contribute to a judges campaign and corporations and unions that lobby Congress and contribute to campaigns? Like I said, it's politics as usual. It was easy for the judge you quoted to make the comment he did seeing as he was an appointed judge.

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eriklatranyi

Oct-29-13 5:50 PM

Ritty:

I believe "recommended" by the bar just means they are an attorney in good standing with the bar association, nothing more.

I don't think the bar (or any other group) should be the sole arbiter for how judges are selected.

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MrShaman

Oct-30-13 6:31 AM

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Gee...how about "the Pennsylvania Bar Association"...that had endorsed Mr. Stabile..."based upon his "solid" appellate experience, "strong intellect", "passion for the law", and "even temperament"...you know, people who KNOW a "little" something about application of the Law??

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MrShaman

Oct-30-13 6:33 AM

"If the people are not qualified enough to elect a judge, who is qualified to appoint one?" - CMReeder

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Gee...how about "the Pennsylvania Bar Association"...that had endorsed Mr. Stabile..."based upon his "solid" appellate experience, "strong intellect", "passion for the law", and "even temperament"...you know, people who KNOW a "little" something about application of the Law??

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MrShaman

Oct-30-13 6:41 AM

If the people are not qualified enough to elect a judge, who is qualified to appoint one? We have judges who are appointed that have been question about their abilities. -Reeder

Exactly!" - Capricorn1

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Please!!!

The ONLY candidate...(for a PA-judge appointment) who'd satisfy you T-Bagger types...would be the individual who'd convinced you they were a direct-descendent of Judge Roy Bean.

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MrShaman

Oct-30-13 6:46 AM

"based upon his "solid" appellate experience, "strong intellect", "passion for the law", and "even temperament"."

What about justice and the Constitution, where does he stand on those?" - enigma

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You've ALREADY contacted the Pennsylvania Bar Association with your concerns??

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