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November 1, 2013

One letter published by the paper has been the source of contention politically and religiously. That letter is 'War on Christianity....

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Capricorn1

Nov-01-13 4:19 AM

Chuck, I must say for the first time, that is a very good letter indeed! However, you are still going to get slaughtered by those that hate everything about Christianity. Let's see what Shaman, our resident expert (in his own mind) has to say about it.

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Premier

Nov-01-13 5:19 AM

Very good letter indeed Mr. Reeder but I have to ask a question. Why do the vast majority of liberals call the whole Christianity thing a hoax but call on it to make a political and emotional point to be used against their opponents when it serves their purpose?

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BornHere

Nov-01-13 5:47 AM

Great letter thank you Mr. Reeder.

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MrShaman

Nov-01-13 5:54 AM

"Why do the vast majority of liberals call the whole Christianity thing a hoax but call on it to make a political and emotional point to be used against their opponents when it serves their purpose?" - Premier

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When those opponents insist "God is on our side."...throughout whatever conflict this Country is involved...shouldn't we be a "little"-more successful (expense-wise), as a result?

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Premier

Nov-01-13 6:38 AM

Obvious Sham got out of that what he wanted to decipher and just couldn't quite make the connection.

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Premier

Nov-01-13 6:40 AM

Maybe if I added some :/"...}-#` he would understand.

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eriklatranyi

Nov-01-13 7:11 AM

Sorry, Mr. Reeder.

You may feel that Christianity and political affiliation are not connected.

Unfortunately, it is members of YOUR ideology who are trying to erase any signs of Christianity from our schools, neighborhoods and lives.

So, please spare me the pabulum about Christianity is for all, when there is a large movement inside YOUR political party that is trying to make Christianity extinct.

Just as every socialist regime attempted to wipe out any type of faith other than faith in government.

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enigma

Nov-01-13 8:18 AM

I like the way this letter is written. Unfortunately Chuck couldn't have it more backward. He's not alone in this, however. Many across the political spectrum use religion to support their political beliefs, when true faith would require that you use religion to form your political beliefs. If you believe in an all powerful god (and what other kind is there?), how can that belief not be the major influence in everything else you believe. It is true that many if not most people who call themselves Christians (or any other religion) do not hold God in this high regard, but rather use Him as an errand boy to deliver their own message. I wouldn't want to be in their place on judgement day.

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eriklatranyi

Nov-01-13 8:24 AM

enigma:

Yes, our faith influences our politics.

But if a candidate admits they are guided by their faith, which party goes ballistic and says that candidate wants a theocracy?

Only one party does this because they wish to destroy any public display of faith.

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MrShaman

Nov-01-13 8:26 AM

Sorry, Mr. Reeder.

You may feel that Christianity and political affiliation are not connected.

Unfortunately, it is members of YOUR ideology who are trying to erase any signs of Christianity from our schools, neighborhoods and lives." - eriklatranyi

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You (actually) feel there's some value in allowing schoolchildren to think there really ARE talking-snakes?????

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See:

George Carlin - Ten Commandments [YouTube]

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MrShaman

Nov-01-13 8:30 AM

"I like the way this letter is written. Unfortunately Chuck couldn't have it more backward. He's not alone in this, however. Many across the political spectrum use religion to support their political beliefs, when true faith would require that you use religion to form your political beliefs." - enigma

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Yeah....how "helpful" that is...in the 21st Century!!

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See:

Biblical Intolerance

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Jakesmom

Nov-01-13 8:46 AM

erik and others- let's ask a libertarian how they feel about prayer in schools etc. and not to turn this into a prayer in school debate I always wonder whose prayers should they be? I taught my son the Hail Mary. Perhaps all Christians would want to prayer to her on a daily basis? Probably not.

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AmericanCitizen

Nov-01-13 8:47 AM

"Unfortunately, it is members of YOUR ideology who are trying to erase any signs of Christianity from our schools, neighborhoods and lives." - eriklatranyi

Why is such blatant exaggeration necessary to make your argument? Schools? Yes. How would you feel if every assembly, sports event or commencement ceremony was required to begin with a prayer to Allah or Vishnu or Zeus?

Your neighborhood, your life? Ridiculous. Have laws been passed outlawing church attendance, wearing religious jewelry, reading religious books? Christmas greetings and decorations, Christian programming on tv and radio, door-to-door "witnessing" - where is all this alleged oppression, who is even suggesting these things should be illegal?

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leaningright

Nov-01-13 9:01 AM

American citizen, its out there and if you don't see it and hear it you are deaf and blind, just the way the government and the progressives and liberals want you, good little subordinate you are.

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Steelman

Nov-01-13 9:55 AM

“When those opponents insist "God is on our side."...throughout whatever conflict this Country is involved...shouldn't we be a "little"-more successful (expense-wise), as a result?” …..MrShaman

God does not solve our problems, he gives us the freedom to create and resolve our own issues

See - I base everything on you tube [You Tube]

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underwood

Nov-01-13 10:11 AM

Good letter, Chuck, religion and politics are two different things. Everyone has every right to believe in whatever they want to believe in, but it should be kept in the private sector.

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DavidBross

Nov-01-13 10:43 AM

Enigma- "...but rather use Him as an errand boy to deliver their own message." That is an excellent way to describe what often happens.

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DavidBross

Nov-01-13 10:44 AM

Good letter, Chuck! It gives lots to think about.

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eriklatranyi

Nov-01-13 11:25 AM

Jakesmom:

A moment of silence is sufficient in school.

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Schdav87

Nov-01-13 11:28 AM

Does Sham only cut and paste, seems I rarely see an original thought from him?

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eriklatranyi

Nov-01-13 11:30 AM

AmericanCitizen:

You are blind if you do not see the suppression of anything religious.

Valedictorians forbidden from thanking God in their speech.

Football players chastised for making the sign of the cross.

Kids thrown out of school for wearing religious symbols.

Court battles over a cross in the dessert.

The list is endless.

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FortySixand2

Nov-01-13 11:50 AM

Leaningright, NO its not "out there". You know where it is? In your choice of full spectrum conservative media bubble. As we get closer to Christmas(I'm sure they've already begun), you see and hear the annual "war on Christmas" bull-pucky on any number of rightist media, including and certainly not limited to Faux News.

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FortySixand2

Nov-01-13 11:55 AM

You rightists use this crap(war on Christmas) every year to attempt to sway the public using Christianity. And that has multiple levels of fraudulent use of religion and supposedly legitimate media(Faux News).

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FortySixand2

Nov-01-13 12:01 PM

What the right sees as the left being hostile toward religion or military or you name it....we are not hostile to them, we are just pushing back against the attempt of the right to "own" or misuse such entities such as forcing us into a Christian Theocracy in many ways.

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eriklatranyi

Nov-01-13 12:04 PM

FortySixand2:

Nobody is pushing for a Christian Theocracy. That is a fabrication of your limited, liberal mind.

The war on Christianity by liberals is very real. I cited examples.

Please show me where conservatives are trying to impose Christianity on anyone.

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