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November 3, 2013

Recently, I have been asked my opinion on the government shut down; and how do we fix Washington. The debacle that took place these past several weeks, does not represent the best of our democracy....

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hopeforfuture

Nov-04-13 3:26 PM

Because teabaggers don't know what they are talking about, their idealism is simply a smokescreen for their inherent racism and vulnerability to incitement.

Plain and simple !!!-JohnHilfirty

I am so tired of hearing racism as the root cause of all the problems. When are we as a people going to start calling ourselves AMERICAN rather than American this or American that. IF we were born here or came here legally we are just plain American. Me I think I will choose Orange for my skin color this week, maybe next week I will be blue.

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Steelman

Nov-04-13 7:57 AM

The problem with the government is that people are so blinded as to what they are voting for because their party supports it. This is idiotic. We blame this side for doing this and that side for doing that, but what it boils down to is we are blind. We have been told by every president going in to office that they are going to change things, nothing ever happens. Going into an elections I do not look at the party name, their profession, I look at what they tell me they are going to change and vote for that candidate based on they agenda, not if they are male, female, white, black, Dem., Rep., but there plans. This is how candidates should be chosen and maybe if they had to stick to their agenda to be reelected they would at least put in some effort into it and not just relying on their party to get them reelected.

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rmiller

Nov-03-13 10:25 PM

John,

By now, the world around you knows that you are a closet racist and all your attempts to deflect your inward hate and bigotry have failed. Do try using another bait....the race one is soooooo old, because it's soooo untrue.

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JohnHilfirty

Nov-03-13 6:54 PM

SO, why do the teabaggers insist on "taking back our government" as the only way to cut the national debt ?

Because teabaggers don't know what they are talking about, their idealism is simply a smokescreen for their inherent racism and vulnerability to incitement.

Plain and simple !!!

Could any of he right wing-nuts explain this?

The info I've presented come from the U.S. Dep't of Labor regarding the growth of the number of government employees, and spending growth from the GAO.

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underwood

Nov-03-13 6:52 PM

Democrats have no monopoly on growing government; that’s why there’s a Tea Party Movement. That’s also why big government Democrats and big government Republicans are afraid of what the Tea Party Movement stands for.

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eriklatranyi

Nov-03-13 6:50 PM

Not one Tea Party member will deny the growth in debt and government under Bush43.

We opposed such growth and debt.

Unfortunately, under President Obama, the growth and debt have accelerated.

Unlike President Obama's campaign promise to cut our debt in half, he has doubled it and expanded the government to, what many consider, dangerous levels.

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JohnHilfirty

Nov-03-13 6:34 PM

Which party is responsible for increasing spending, and increasing the National Debt ?

Today, the easy financing mechanisms that fueled most of the 20th century domestic spending growth are no longer available. This, combined with high and automatic growth of entitlements, is driving our current long-term budget crunch. The floundering of government today is far more than an issue of changing ideologies or philosophies of government. A primary cause is the dramatic reversal in fiscal flexibility.

Domestic Spending by Presidential Term Over the last 100 years, of the five presidents who reigned over the largest domestic spending growth, four were Republicans. The line-up, in order, is Nixon, Hoover, Eisenhower, Truman, and Bush (see table). We obtained this ranking by measuring the change in domestic spending as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) between the fiscal year of a president's inauguration and the fiscal year of his successor's inauguration.

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JohnHilfirty

Nov-03-13 6:24 PM

On "bigger government":

1/1/1961 thru 1/1/2001:

Under Repub. Pres. (20 yrs); Under Dem. Pres. (20 yrs);

•“Under the 20 years of Republican administrations the number of non-defense government employees rose by 310,000. •Under the 20 years of Democratic administrations, the number of non-defense government employees rose by 59,000. •Of the 369,000 employees added between 1962 and 2001, 84% were added under Republican administrations and 16% were added under Democratic administrations.”

FACT: REPUBLICANS INCREASE THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT MORE THAN DEMS - BY ALMOST 400% !!!

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rmiller

Nov-03-13 1:18 PM

Mr. McGill,

Your idea is super, but not applicable in the real world. The powers that be, albeit less resources, still operate on the local level. And, unlike the highest office in the country, the vetting would reveal the smallest detail.

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MrShaman

Nov-03-13 11:06 AM

DavidBross said:

"Erik, you didn't mention anything about the harm of compromising with radical rightists."

Yeah, the Tea Party wants to return us to Constitution limits on gov't, spend less and get out of your life.

What a horrible future they offer!" - eriklatranyi

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...Especially, when...all the T-Baggers can manage, is their traditional "deer in the headlights" expression...when you ask them to be more-specific, than (simply) "return us to Constitution limits on gov't".

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MrShaman

Nov-03-13 10:57 AM

"83 freshman reps (all teabaggers) can block a bill from getting a vote. That's what is destroying both our form of government AND America."

It is not "teabaggers" destroying "our form of government AND America." It's the Democrat leftists that on a party line vote, voted to destroy healthcare..." - CarlHiller

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When you say "destroy", you (of course) mean they'd "hampered" the never-ending profits realized by those folks heavily-invested in for-profit health-insurance $tock$.

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See:

Death By For-Profit Health Care - Strike Debt!

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MrShaman

Nov-03-13 10:47 AM

"Sorry, but I do not want moderates who compromise with radical leftists and allow the federal behemoth to grow larger and larger, with little regard for the debt we are accumulating." - eriklatranyi

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It wasn't "moderates who compromise(d) with radical leftists" who'd approved preemptive-striking (of Iraq)...and, went-on to hiding the CO$T$ of that invasion (thru "special appropriations"), outside our budget.

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MrShaman

Nov-03-13 10:39 AM

I totally agree with you BUT...unless you have a good deal of money and lots of backers...you just don't have a prayer. Sad but true!" - andy33

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...THE primary-reason for public (rather-than corporate) financing of campaigns.

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MrShaman

Nov-03-13 10:35 AM

"We see what extreme right and left radical idealism gets us. Absolutely nothing. That's right, the far right view or far left view, simply divides us all, they incite anger, and cause obstruction." - William L. McGill

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"radical idealism" is a relative-term. EVERY new/different idea sounds "radical", to those folks who prefer the "safety"/convenience of the status-quo.

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See:

Activism: The Legacy of the Hippie Movement in the Sixties - Yahoo

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eriklatranyi

Nov-03-13 10:07 AM

DavidBross said:

"Erik, you didn't mention anything about the harm of compromising with radical rightists."

Yeah, the Tea Party wants to return us to Constitution limits on gov't, spend less and get out of your life.

What a horrible future they offer!

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underwood

Nov-03-13 9:37 AM

Even moderates must decide whether to vote and “compromise” in the direction of fiscal responsibility, personal freedom and liberty or ever more government control of our lives and generations worth of debt. Compromising and moderation are what has gotten us in the unsustainable mess we’re in now.

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idiottwo

Nov-03-13 9:03 AM

I agree, get involved or vote. But I'm not sure the answer is moderates. You make assumptions the issues with Gov are tied to extremes on both sides. I would make the case its lacking honesty, accountability and excessive terms.

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DavidBross

Nov-03-13 8:39 AM

Erik, you didn't mention anything about the harm of compromising with radical rightists. I wonder, could that omission be an example of your hypocrisy on display? Another example of hypocrisy on display from the right involves the Governor's belief that the fee/tax increases to support his transportation plan are investments. I do remember him and many Republicans (Sen. Yaw, for example) completely dismissing the idea that tax increases can be considered investments under any circumstances. Also, it is important to remember that hypocrisy respects no ideology, political beliefs, religion, etc. Obama's willingness to give businesses a year delay in following the ACA, but not to others during the shutdown is certainly hypocritical. Finally, I think you do yourself and your beliefs a great disservice by declaring that one side is so wrong and the other so right.

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JohnZook

Nov-03-13 8:37 AM

One phrase- Opposition Research Lawyers; look what they did to the candidates.

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CarlHiller

Nov-03-13 7:42 AM

"83 freshman reps (all teabaggers) can block a bill from getting a vote. That's what is destroying both our form of government AND America." It is not "teabaggers" destroying "our form of government AND America." It's the Democrat leftists that on a party line vote, voted to destroy healthcare with the passage of a monstrosity of a bill that not one read, let alone understood. Everything that Republicans stated when this bill passed has come to pass. It's the leftists in Congress that would not allow passage of funding bills presented by Republicans and would allow no negotiations to take place to actually put together a government budget. It's the leftists that have since Obama came to office have never once allowed a budget to pass the Senate. These are the ones out to fundamentally change and destroy what is America. Gridlock is part of the American government. I get so tired of the useless prattle from you who are clearly communist.

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sideliner

Nov-03-13 6:06 AM

Why am I not surprised, Erik, that you would not want a moderate, one less radically right?

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eriklatranyi

Nov-03-13 5:56 AM

Sorry, but I do not want moderates who compromise with radical leftists and allow the federal behemoth to grow larger and larger, with little regard for the debt we are accumulating.

We have a President who lies with blatantly and denies any knowledge of anything inside his administration (unless he can take credit for it).

We do not have a majority rule system....that is mob rule.

We have representatives who are elected to reflect the voters in their home district.

While President Obama won in 2008 and 2012, the nation also decided to elect more Republicans dedicated to fiscal austerity and less government growth.

We are told, by liberals, to respect the wishes of the electorate while they call certain representatives of the electorate nasty names.

But, that is liberal hypocrisy on display!

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andy33

Nov-03-13 5:37 AM

I totally agree with you BUT...unless you have a good deal of money and lots of backers...you just don't have a prayer. Sad but true!

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JohnHilfirty

Nov-03-13 2:47 AM

All good advice Bill, except the real problem was reflected the happenings of the past few weeks.

Our form and operating methods has bee so subverted over the years that it may not be repairable. I'm referring to things such as the horrible "Citizens United" decision, and the cumulative effects of Republican gerrymandering, etc.

Our country was formed to be a majority rule system. Today, for some reason, it takes 60 votes to pass a bill in the Senate, while in the 435 seat House, 83 freshman reps (all teabaggers) can block a bill from getting a vote.

That's what is destroying both our form of government AND America.

Just saying !

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