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Missing point

November 5, 2013

In a recent letter to the editor, the writer complains that during the recent budget stalemate, a minority of people in Congress are attacking the heart and spirit of our democracy by not......

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USABorn

Nov-06-13 12:21 PM

Founding Fathers/Slave Owners

Charles Carroll,MD - John Adams,MA - Samuel Chase, MD - Samuel Adams, MA. Benjamin Franklin, PA - Oliver Ellsworth, CT - Button Gwinnett, GA - Alexander Hamilton, NY - John Hancock,MA - Robert Treat Paine, MA - Patrick Henry, VA - Thomas Paine, PA - John Jay, NY - Roger Sherman, CT Thomas Jefferson, VA - Richard Henry Lee, VA - James Madison, VA - Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, SC - Benjamin Rush, PA - Edward Rutledge, SC - George Washington, VA

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rmiller

Nov-05-13 10:37 PM

Not to worry Mr. Craig....it's not over yet...it's only just begun.

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Capricorn1

Nov-05-13 7:23 PM

erik... there is an estimate of 60,000 slaves right here in American. -Bornhere

And much of the problem can be tied to illegal immigration. Just one more negative impact of unsecured borders.

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BornHere

Nov-05-13 5:45 PM

erik... there is an estimate of 60,000 slaves right here in American.

See: Washington Post Oct. 17. 2013

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eriklatranyi

Nov-05-13 4:25 PM

We may not have slavery today, but if I don't buy the King's health insurance plan, I face fines and penalties.

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Capricorn1

Nov-05-13 3:39 PM

At the current rate of growth, the next generation will either be working for the government or living off it.

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Capricorn1

Nov-05-13 3:37 PM

...And, that's why "conservatives" dread Change, huh?? Shaman

Personally I'm still waiting for that hope and change. IMO it's just been more of the same the past five years; unchecked, out of control government growth and spending.

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underwood

Nov-05-13 2:37 PM

The right doesn’t dread change, we’d like nothing better than to see a change back to the rule of law and constitutionally limited government.

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MrShaman

Nov-05-13 2:28 PM

"Risk is too scary for those on the left..." - underwood

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...And, that's why "conservatives" dread Change, huh??

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Premier

Nov-05-13 2:23 PM

Reeder:"Conservatives don't honor freedom"

And Liberals do? What by giving them everything they want, making them wards of the state. That is not freedom but what liberals know best........slavery.

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Capricorn1

Nov-05-13 1:59 PM

sideliner I agree, but to hang on to those injustices and continue to use them as an excuse not to move forward and better yourself, is extremely counter-productive. And admit it or not, that is exactly what has been happening in the black community. And it doesn't help that you have black leadership that continues to fuel that victim mindset.

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underwood

Nov-05-13 1:51 PM

Risk is too scary for those on the left to want a society where an individual’s efforts are what leads to success. They’d much rather avoid personal risk of failure by supporting collectivism and thereby avoiding that risk in their minds.

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leaningright

Nov-05-13 1:36 PM

SIDELINER- Sorry but i am not going to take back my comments as they are true when it comes to those two guys. It is what it is and i meant it. No apologies. What do you know about risk Reeder?

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CMReeder

Nov-05-13 1:17 PM

I must have touched a nerve. Sorry but conservatives only honor the status quo and avoid risk like it was the plaque.

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sideliner

Nov-05-13 12:41 PM

leaningright, after reading your last post, I have to ask you if this kind of thing:

"Reeder- You are a real JERK! You do nothing for helping your worthless liberal party, go crawl in a hole where you belong like an earthworm with your earthworm friends.....follow along Shaman."

does anything to help your party or your cause. It's tough to get past the name calling and just plain mean barbs that have no problem solving goal That kind of rhetoric helps your party? Interesting...

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sideliner

Nov-05-13 12:36 PM

Cap, I agree that “holding on” to mistakes can be counterproductive, but we DO have to remember them and the context in which they existed. We have to remember that at certain times we looked at quite reprehensible acts as acceptable SOPs… like slavery, the dumping of chemical and other toxic waste directly into our fresh waterways and air, child labor, etc.

There are all kinds of examples of policies, laws, and behaviors that we absolutely defended as just, correct, and the law of the land that we can now look back on and wonder what it was we were thinking that allowed us to do those things. We have to ask ourselves how history will judge us. We have to ask ourselves a lot of questions that take in the big picture instead of these narrow and rigid views that permit us to keep on doing what maybe ought to be changed. We have to ask ourselves questions the opposition would ask us so we can have a better understanding.

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MrShaman

Nov-05-13 11:39 AM

Sham- what about when Holder let go the FARC terrorists under Clinton and the Frank Rich pardon. Just thought I would throw in some more irrelevance into the conversation." - JohnZook

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You almost sound like you know what you're talkin'-about.

Keep tryin'!!!!

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See:

CorpWatch : Chiquita Banana To Face Colombia Torture Claim

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DavidBross

Nov-05-13 11:12 AM

Capricorn1: We are certainly in agreement regarding the victim mindset. It is troubling to me that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are still accepted as spokesmen for the black community. Their desire to make themselves important has been a major impediment for the black community.

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JohnZook

Nov-05-13 11:01 AM

Sham- what about when Holder let go the FARC terrorists under Clinton and the Frank Rich pardon. Just thought I would throw in some more irrelevance into the conversation.

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leaningright

Nov-05-13 10:59 AM

"Conservatives don't honor freedom." -CM Reeder

AND... according to this Liberal fool we also "spit on the poor" and are "not americans"

Reeder- You are a real JERK! You do nothing for helping your worthless liberal party, go crawl in a hole where you belong like an earthworm with your earthworm friends.....follow along Shaman.

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JohnZook

Nov-05-13 10:57 AM

I'm trying to put myself back in Colonial times and the rules of the day. Let's see; The colonists came from England, England had indentured servitude, the Arabs sold slaves to the English, the wealthy English sponsored people and the indentured ans slaves to go the New World to send back goods to sell, and a black man was the first to buy a slave. So the white Southern Democrats thought that was a good idea and using slaves to do business was a necessary way to do business. And then came the civil war and the white southern democrats, including their descendants LBJ and Robert Byrd (who used the "N" word religiously) wanted to keep their slaves and people died, especially at Gettysburg (150th Anniversary) where Obama will be the first President NOT to go and remember those who died there. (If there was a slave there, would it look like him?)

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cheyenne

Nov-05-13 10:38 AM

That's what Eric Holder says anyway, FortySix.

Gee, what a shock!

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MrShaman

Nov-05-13 10:22 AM

"This was a great letter! The majority of people are satisfied to be sheep, put into pens, sheared and eventually eaten by the very shepherd they look to for protection and provision." - enigma

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Interesting. I didn't think T-Baggers would EVER want to discuss the hu$tle that Dick Armey ran, on them!!!

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MrShaman

Nov-05-13 10:19 AM

"We hear all this talk about compromise, but no one ever talks about what we’re supposed to compromise about." - underwood

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Amendments, to our Constitution, would be a fairly-good example.

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FortySixand2

Nov-05-13 10:16 AM

Yeah Cappy, in the meantime let's put up stringent roadblocks to black college students voting at their mostly black NC colleges! Why do they insist on playing the victim card?

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