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Missing point

November 5, 2013

In a recent letter to the editor, the writer complains that during the recent budget stalemate, a minority of people in Congress are attacking the heart and spirit of our democracy by not......

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Tgrammiex4

Nov-05-13 4:30 AM

Great letter! Someone has to stand thier ground against the trainwreck in DC.

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USABorn

Nov-05-13 4:30 AM

Excellent letter! (Except maybe to Reeder)

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leaningright

Nov-05-13 6:16 AM

Shaman is going to call you a tea bagger.

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DavidBross

Nov-05-13 6:20 AM

The Founding Fathers did compromise, one could say capitulated, when it came to the issue of slavery.

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DavidBross

Nov-05-13 6:23 AM

Lincoln most certainly did compromise on slavery. For example, the Emancipation Proclamation did not apply to Union states that had slaves.

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MrShaman

Nov-05-13 6:27 AM

"I am glad our Founding Fathers did not compromise, even though their critics and enemies ridiculed and may have lectured them on the way they were supposed to act." - Ted Craig

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Agreed!!!!

I'm sure the Founding Fathers ALSO saw the hypocrisy o' the Tories...who preferred the convenience of the status-quo...living/working for the British "job-creators".

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eriklatranyi

Nov-05-13 6:30 AM

When I hear someone ask the liberals to compromise, then I might be willing to consider it.

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MrShaman

Nov-05-13 6:31 AM

"Shaman is going to call you a tea bagger." - leaningright

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...Only because the T-Baggers are too history-challenged to have any recognition o' their political-roots; the Tories (i.e. slaves to the British 1%ers/high-roller$).

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MrShaman

Nov-05-13 6:34 AM

"When I hear someone ask the liberals to compromise, then I might be willing to consider it." - eriklatranyi

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It might help, if you moved outta the center o' the Limbaugh-lemming herd.

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DavidBross

Nov-05-13 7:04 AM

Patrick Henry, famous for his phrase, "Give me liberty, or give me death", was a slave owner. Of course that may be an example of hypocrisy rather than compromise. Of course, I am sure those slaves who were killed trying to free themselves would have understood Henry's stirring words very well.

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eriklatranyi

Nov-05-13 7:21 AM

DavidBross:

Really?!

Are you really going to go back in time and condemn slave owners based on today's standards?

Just think about how the future might judge you.

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CMReeder

Nov-05-13 7:40 AM

LOL

You are right I don't agree with the right wing who post here and think they are like the Founding Fathers. You are about as far away from them in attitude and meaning as the British were. You are not rebels, you are not abolitionists. You are not for a new way of governing.

You are for the status quo and nothing else.

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DavidBross

Nov-05-13 7:45 AM

No Erik, I am simply rounding out the picture given in the LTE. The author of the LTE has a view of our past that shows how effective our country has been in presenting a rather skewed view of our past. All countries do this. But, it is time to show the maturity needed to view our past warts and all. And I might add, Erik, that even in Henry's time, there were those who saw how wrong slavery was. In fact, many Founding Fathers were troubled by the fact that they owned slaves while speaking about all men being created equal and having the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Regarding the last line of your post, I think you have more to worry about in that regard than I do.

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eriklatranyi

Nov-05-13 7:59 AM

DavidBross:

The fact is that this country ended slavery on its own and set the standard that ended slavery across most of the world.

That is the history of this nation.

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CMReeder

Nov-05-13 8:59 AM

Guess what Erik it took compromise, it did not happen overnight. The Founding Fathers when drafting the documents we hold in high regard were all the result of compromise.

There was no compromise from the British.

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johnnyad3

Nov-05-13 9:07 AM

erik - Slavery in this country may be against the law but if anyone thinks it doesn't exist here, and everywhere else in the world, they are naive.

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underwood

Nov-05-13 9:16 AM

We hear all this talk about compromise, but no one ever talks about what we’re supposed to compromise about. It would be interesting to have a discussion about what we need to compromise about rather than just calling for compromise.

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CMReeder

Nov-05-13 9:27 AM

From the letter - '....I applaud the effort to not compromise with those in Washington who are unwilling to reduce government spending and want to implement a health care system that resembles a 1970's Soviet Supermarket.'

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enigma

Nov-05-13 9:40 AM

This was a great letter! The majority of people are satisfied to be sheep, put into pens, sheared and eventually eaten by the very shepherd they look to for protection and provision. In most cases, the shepherd is a thinly disguised wolf. As the letter writer pointed out, if it weren't for the minority who prefer freedom to dependency, there never would have been a United States. That is the very spirit of our country and even the sheep enjoy that freedom, while being willing to give it up at the drop of a hat for what they believe to be security. Yes, there is some amount of security in slavery, but I for one prefer freedom and the personal risk that comes with it.

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CMReeder

Nov-05-13 9:44 AM

The minority! The minority in the colonies were the loyalists.

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CMReeder

Nov-05-13 9:47 AM

Conservatives don't honor freedom.

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FortySixand2

Nov-05-13 10:05 AM

OH Jesus! Lets trot out the good ole USSR in our hysteria!

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FortySixand2

Nov-05-13 10:09 AM

The Real Story Behind the Phony Canceled Health Insurance Scandal —By Stephanie Mencimer at Motherjones.... A good example might be Dianne Barrette, 56, who appeared on CBS News with Jan Crawford last week for a segment about the wave of cancellations. Barrette was upset because her $54 a month insurance plan was being canceled. She believed a new one would cost her more than $500 a month due to Obamacare. "What I have right now is what I'm happy with," she said. "I just want to know why I can't keep what I have. Why do I have to be forced into something else?"

But here’s the rub: Barrette's $54 plan wasn't even insurance. When I talked to her, she was unsure of what her plan covered. But she said it was what Blue Cross calls a "supplemental" or discount plan, which only pays $50 toward doctor's office visits and a few other out-patient services, including mammograms. What her plan doesn’t cover: hospitalization. Not at all.

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Capricorn1

Nov-05-13 10:12 AM

David, as long as many in this country continue to hang on to mistakes that were made by slave owners and many others during the civil rights era, we will never be able to get beyond the victimology mind set that holds so many back in the black community.

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FortySixand2

Nov-05-13 10:12 AM

more... So if she gets hit by a car, the people ultimately picking up the tab will be the hospital and everyone else (by way of higher medical costs). If she gets cancer, she’s basically out of luck. "It's all I could afford," she told me.

Blue Cross was selling these plans in malls and other retail insurance "shops" in an effort to target young people who don't have or don't think they need health insurance, luring them in with cheap premiums of between $24 to $54 a month. The plans came with a not-well-disclosed caveat that they were not designed to replace hospital-surgical plans, which Blue Cross encouraged people to buy—provided the purchasers could get past all the exclusions for preexisting conditions.

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