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Freedom is fragile

November 6, 2013

“Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction....

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mikekerstetter

Nov-06-13 3:51 AM

I have to disagree slightly. We HAD the best health care in the world. Now I think we are one of the best. Personally I think we are lacking in our delivery and access to health care. More and more I read and hear stories of people being denied treatment for serious health conditions because they can't afford to pay, and hospitals/Dr's are only required to treat emergencies.

On the other end of the spectrum, we have the abusers who routinely clog our emergency rooms with splinters and colds and who use the valuable resources of the ER as their primary care facility.

As I said before, Obamacare does very little to address the shortcomings. To be fair, though, I have seen no legitimate counter-plan that has come from those who want to repeal Obamacare. It's just another symptom of the dysfunction that is called Washington.

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ArtFold

Nov-06-13 5:02 AM

Francine, just because Rush coined the term doesn't make it untrue or a "bad" term. Like it or not it is now part of the current language. If you don't think there are a lot (and I mean a WHOLE lot) of low information American's out there, I suggest you to view some of Jay Leno's "Jaywalking" segments sometime. They are available on the web.

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ArtFold

Nov-06-13 5:04 AM

PS. Sorry for the clumsy writing and bad grammar. I haven't had my morning coffee yet. :-)

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Capricorn1

Nov-06-13 5:22 AM

Between low information voters, those heavily influenced by the talking heads on TV news media, those with toe the party line mental block, the "it's not our guy" mentality and those that simply vote by way of name recognition, it doesn't leave many that actually research each candidate regarding their qualifications to do the job or their voting record on the issues.

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sideliner

Nov-06-13 5:31 AM

Mike, I whole heartedly agree with your stating that there has been no better alternative to ACA offered by the other side. Unless they can come up with another viable solution to the health care crisis we have in this country, they need to take aback seat and let this one play out, good or bad. Using a phrase coined by Rush not only labels the author as a “ditto head,” but also as one who relies on an inciting and hateful commentator from the extreme fringe for her information. I don’t know which is worse; low information or extremely biased information.

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FortySixand2

Nov-06-13 5:34 AM

"Very low information voter" = anyone who voted for the other guy, am I correct, Mrs letter writer from Watsontown?

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FortySixand2

Nov-06-13 5:42 AM

Mike, the ACA does far more than you think to address our health systems shortcomings. The rightists have closed their eyes, covered their ears, and scream for all they're worth so as not to be part of any solution. I have asked time and again for plans or proposals, and get no responses. The ACA provides funding for thousands of community health centers to relieve crowding at ERs. You have republican governors across the country who absolutely refuse to give any part of the ACA a chance to succeed. All in the name of ideology, there citizens be damned.

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FortySixand2

Nov-06-13 5:50 AM

The low info voter meme makes me laugh. The people hurling such accusations more often than not are getting their info from am radio ideologues. And boy do they ever have a lock on truths and verifiable facts!

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Capricorn1

Nov-06-13 6:31 AM

Forty, if you are denying that there are many "low information voters", then IMO you have your head in the sand. Do some research on the number of people that vote on name recognition alone. That is one of the main contributing factors of why "their guy" continues to get elected, in spite of their job performance.

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MrShaman

Nov-06-13 6:32 AM

"Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people." Governor Ronald Reagan, Jan. 5, 1967." - Susan Thomas

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How "odd" he (obviously) thought that only applied to White-people.

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See:

Reagan and Guatemala’s Death Files

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Capricorn1

Nov-06-13 6:34 AM

How "odd" he (obviously) thought that only applied to White-people. -Shaman

Shaman, is there anyone in your mind that is not a racist besides liberals?

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MrShaman

Nov-06-13 6:37 AM

"Francine, just because Rush coined the term doesn't make it untrue or a "bad" term." - ArtFold

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True. "low-information voters" is merely one, more, o' Limbaugh's nonsensical-terms.

What could people expect, from someone who could barely cut 2 months of college?

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MrShaman

Nov-06-13 6:41 AM

"Forty, if you are denying that there are many "low information voters", then IMO you have your head in the sand." - Capricorn1

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That phrase (actually) makes sense, to you??????

What would qualify as "high information"; Oxy-info????

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MrShaman

Nov-06-13 6:44 AM

How "odd" he (obviously) thought that only applied to White-people. -Shaman

Shaman, is there anyone in your mind that is not a racist besides liberals?" - Capricorn1

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You APPROVE o' genocide?????

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hopeforfuture

Nov-06-13 6:58 AM

MrShaman Is it possible for you to be kind? Is that really that hard? You can make your points without being rude. I truly feel sorry for you.

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Capricorn1

Nov-06-13 7:14 AM

True. "low-information voters" is merely one, more, o' Limbaugh's nonsensical-terms. -Shaman

Shaman, you need to do a little research on the term. You give Limbaugh too much credit.

In fact, Wikipedia states, "Linguist George Lakoff has written that the term is a pejorative mainly used by American liberals to refer to people who vote conservative against their own interests, and assumes they do it because they lack sufficient information. Liberals, he said, attribute the problem in part to deliberate Republican efforts at misinforming voters."

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eriklatranyi

Nov-06-13 7:16 AM

There are many alternatives to Obamacare. Perhaps you just need to look them up.

For young people, health savings accounts are ideal. They provide coverage for large or accidental injuries while creating a pool of money that could be used as a down payment on a house.

Allowing competition across state lines would allow a larger number of choices for healthy or chronically ill people.

There are many other good ideas proposed in both the Senate and the House.

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eriklatranyi

Nov-06-13 7:18 AM

To demonstrate the incompetence of President Obama, CGI, the company who was paid over $650 million for the failed website, has just been awarded five more gov't contracts worth over $7 million.

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Steelman

Nov-06-13 7:23 AM

“they need to take aback seat and let this one play out, good or bad.” Sideliner. This is where we are at let’s just sit back and watch. When this fails there is no repairing it. It has to be taken down and rebuilt from the foundation up. Everyone keeps saying no alts. have been offered, but what about the American Health Care Reform Act. This plan offers affordable health care for all, preexisting or not and has room for improvements where needed.

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CMReeder

Nov-06-13 7:49 AM

The sky is falling! The end is near! All hope is gone!

Gawd I don't know how the right can go on with life at all. They are so negative about everything, no wonder they sound so shrill and desparate all the time.

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Darlin

Nov-06-13 7:52 AM

Erik, the CGI Company who created the failed website for Obama and now just received 5 more contracts is a Big-time donor to Obama. Of course! Obama doesn't care what fails as long as they lavish him monetarily. Pretty similar to the failed solar companies that he invested stimulus money in all comes back to him as donor money for him. A sneaky way of money laundering, but that is what this administration does best.

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ArtFold

Nov-06-13 8:05 AM

While the sky may not be falling I see our system of government and our freedoms slipping away. By design, it would seem.

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underwood

Nov-06-13 8:11 AM

The real problem with voters is a lack of interest in politics and consequently a poor understanding of what they’re voting for. This can be proven by having conversations with them or as someone else said watching man on the street interviews. It makes no difference who coined the phrase low information voters, it pretty well sums up the average voter.

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DavidBross

Nov-06-13 8:51 AM

In our country, uninterested and uninformed citizens create a vacuum. This allows those in positions of power and influence to fill that vacuum with policies that benefit themselves first. An active and informed electorate is the best antidote for this civic vacuum.

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MrShaman

Nov-06-13 8:54 AM

MrShaman Is it possible for you to be kind? Is that really that hard? You can make your points without being rude." - hopeforfuture

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"rude", how...stating the facts as they ARE?

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