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Ashamed

November 10, 2013

I was born and raised in Williamsport. I lived there for 23 years before I felt the need to leave, something I never thought I would do....

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andy33

Nov-15-13 6:50 AM

After 82 posts.....Shaman is the alter ego of dear Jack/John....nice to see RMiller...HI!....AND.... todays Williamsport is NOT the same town I grew up in....fault can't be an issue. A SOLUTION needs to be an issue. Let's all try to find an answer as to why people choose to use this killer drug...then move forward....

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Godzilla1

Nov-14-13 9:38 AM

Millwe isn't that self explanatory?

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Millwe

Nov-13-13 7:30 PM

Please don't get me started on "the boys in blue" carrying the ball!! Since you are all reminiscing-think back to what the "boys in blue" used to be like...they were truly public servants with the ability and experience to truly "serve and protect". They actually knew "the beat" and everyone on it, were respected and gave respect in return. That is NOT the case these days, at least not in Williamsport. Call me stupid but image, in uniform, is paramount and along with that uniform integrity, intelligence and true interest should be worn. What has happened?

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rmiller

Nov-12-13 3:08 PM

Godzilla1,

Nice observation of Sham. He is John Hilfirty, just in the more passive mode. I like your post. :)

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Godzilla1

Nov-12-13 10:31 AM

MrShaman are you quite done with your sanctimonious, self righteous force feeding of your vast amounts of knowledge from your armchair located in the Grotto. Since you want everyone to choke down your I know it all about everthing that crosses that mighty chair upon which you roost. At exactly what point are you going to pull out (from the remote pocket) a time machine to transport society back to a time that you feel is acceptable to exist in? Since you portray being all knowing in all matters how about we just leave it all up to you to wrangle up a solution! Now wave your majic wand and make it happen. Those who are not part of a solution are part of the problem bottom line your incessant faulting of everyone else's perception of the world indicates 1. Total ignorance on the part of all of the posters here excluding you. OR 2. A condtion that can possibility be medicted on your part. By all means CARRY ON you are so passive/aggressive that it has become oddly amusing.

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MrShaman

Nov-12-13 5:18 AM

"As I read all these comments, I, too am sad. What Monica said was right-this city is decaying quickly..." - Millwe

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Quickly??? No...that began (approx.) 40-years-ago, when (local) "old-money" made every effort to keep larger-businesses from re-locating to Williamsport.

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MrShaman

Nov-12-13 5:10 AM

"In the 50's, I like many others, was totally occupied with cars, and going to the drag strips and racing them.

Things were so cheap, and money was so easy to earn. We were far too busy for drinking, and never even heard the word "drugs" mentioned." - JohnHilfirty

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Yeah...sure...who ever heard o' mixing drag-racing & alcohol?

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MrShaman

Nov-12-13 5:06 AM

"Let's just sit there and debate causation of addiction and ignore that it has become an epidemic!" - Godzilla1

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No...the 1918 Flu Pandemic would have better-qualified.

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Godzilla1

Nov-12-13 12:33 AM

Monica I am truly sorry for your loss and that your sister became another victim of the h*ro*n epidemic....that your one time home has become.

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Millwe

Nov-12-13 12:31 AM

As I read all these comments, I, too am sad. What Monica said was right-this city is decaying quickly and is in need of an overhaul in many areas if it is to survive. While drug use may be a choice, I don't believe addiction is. What matters now is how we proceed from here? What do we have to offer those who need to get well? Addiction, which I believe is an illness of the body, mind and soul, does not discriminate and neither should we. We need to lose the stereotypical biases and insist that the leaders of this city are informed, educated, willing and able to learn and apply the best possible approach to this illness stealing the lives of our loved ones.

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JohnHilfirty

Nov-12-13 12:29 AM

"This is not the world you or I grew up in. Not at all. It doesn't matter if ours was better and the reasons why. it's not what exists today. Times change."-spike2-

OH SO TRUE, Spike!

I've spent many hours thinking about my teen years compared to today, trying to figure out the differences.

In the 50's, I like many others, was totally occupied with cars, and going to the drag strips and racing them.

Things were so cheap, and money was so easy to earn. We were far too busy for drinking, and never even heard the word "drugs" mentioned.

Different time, different world!

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Godzilla1

Nov-12-13 12:21 AM

It's nice to see the same blah, blah, blah from the arm chair professionals that majored in popcorn popping in the classroom of life. Fact is that her sister is dead! Fact is it occurred in Williamsport! How many is that this year? What is being done? Who is in charge there? Let's just sit there and debate causation of addiction and ignore that it has become an epidemic!

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JohnHilfirty

Nov-11-13 11:12 PM

rmiller @ Nov-10-13 10:36 PM

"When someone gets cancer, it is not (outside of smoking) their fault."

So you include all who started smoking prior to 1964 (when the first link between smoking and lung cancer was announced) just as "guilty" ?

What about people who willingly worked with asbestos? Them too?

"Drugs are a choice, not a disease."

So in other words you know more than the collective intelligence of the medical AND scientific communities, even though you hold no degrees?

Amazing! No, must be a miracle!

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MrShaman

Nov-11-13 10:56 AM

"... we also know that, for some, pot is a gateway drug to far more damaging substances, such as hero-in." - eriklatranyi

FACTOID:

1. Studies have concluded that 67% of hero-in users smoked pot prior to using hero-in.

2. These same studies concluded that 93% of the same group had drank milk prior to going on to using hero-in.

3. Those same studies also concluded that 97% of the same group had eaten chocolate before trying Hero-in.

CAVEAT: Chocolate is a derived product of the coca plant which also spawns ingredients of coca-in, a popular, commonly abused and habit-forming drug.

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"Gateway drug" was first heard (by me) during the Nixon years.

Like many other fables, sometimes rumors take on a life of their own and generations later still exist, absent any supporting evidence." - JohnHilfirty

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Hey....some people (just) learn, a little-later than others....

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See:

Medical Cannabis Leads to Increased Use In Seniors [YouTube]

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MrShaman

Nov-11-13 10:27 AM

"Perhaps most importantly is that Christ got hold of my life, and He became my addiction......without Him, I can do nothing." - rmiller

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Hmmmmmmmmmm....addicted to religion, huh?

Yeah...I've heard that's fairly-HUGE, in the Middle East.

I think (most) Americans would prefer to stay engaged with the modern-World, instead.

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MrShaman

Nov-11-13 10:21 AM

"The mind of one person is made of the same biological components as another persons's." - rmiller

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You're suggesting individuals' personal-EXPERIENCES have ZERO-impact on the way individuals' minds operate....SERIOUSLY??!!!

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See:

Consequences|Child Maltreatment|Violence Prevention|Injury|CDC

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MrShaman

Nov-11-13 10:10 AM

I agree Cap; that’s why I keep bringing up focusing on drying up the market and treating addiction as an illness." - underwood

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Even the SUGGESTION, of "drying up the market", is about as valid/workable as the War On Alcohol.

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MrShaman

Nov-11-13 10:06 AM

Spike, I went through the same temptations as everyone else during my lifetime. Your point about the infallibility of youth is valid, but not all youth use drugs and become addicts. We should be focusing much or our efforts on educating our kids about the dangers of using drugs." - underwood

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When it comes to "educating" younger-people, it wouldn't hurt to apply SERIOUS doses of consistency & honesty, when identifying "dangerous"-drugs...'cause most of them are way-out, AHEAD, of most adults.

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See:

True History of Marijuana Full Movie - YouTube

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MrShaman

Nov-11-13 9:55 AM

Spike, I won’t argue with any of what you say, but I think my point is valid that drug addiction wouldn’t occur if drugs were avoided in the first place and we wouldn’t have a drug problem if there wasn’t a thriving market for drugs." - underwood

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BEEN there!!!!

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See:

History Of Alcohol Prohibition - DRCNet Online Library Of Drug Policy

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Capricorn1

Nov-11-13 9:54 AM

Steelman, yes drug use is a choice but many get addicted to prescription opiate pain killers first as a result of an injury or chronic pain and because of that addiction they often turn to her oin because either they have been shutoff by their doctor for the prescription opiate or they can't afford it. Regardless they still need to feed that addiction and her oin is the drug many turn to because it's cheap and easy to get. So saying that there aren't gateway drugs is misleading.

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MrShaman

Nov-11-13 9:45 AM

Phil, the common word being treatment. The reason that the medical community started referring to addiction as a disease 40 years ago was to attempt to remove the stigma associated with addiction and to help convince people to get treatment. But as you know, there is still a stigma even though addiction attacks all walks of life. Studies even show that 10% of the top executives battle some type of addiction. It's not just your neighborhood junkie." - Capricorn1

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...OR, limited to street-drugs...

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See:

Overlapping Neuronal Circuits In Addiction And Obesity: Evidence Of Systems Pathology

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MrShaman

Nov-11-13 9:40 AM

Underwood, I am the last person who needs a cancer lecture. I can assure you many, many cancers are directly caused by choices." - spike2

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...QUITE-often, choices made by someone-else....

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See:

Air Pollution A Leading Cause Of Cancer - U.N. Agency | Reuters

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MrShaman

Nov-11-13 9:34 AM

Cap, I expected someone to make the point you made about our contributing to various illnesses and I agree that addiction should be treated as an illness, but to compare cancer to addiction is a stretch." - underwood

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So...you're saying what...that physical-illnesses are more "entitled" to treatment, that psychological-illnesses??

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MrShaman

Nov-11-13 9:20 AM

"But if your doctor said that you had diabetes or heart disease, you wouldn't think you were bad person. You would think, "What can I do to overcome this disease?" That is how you should approach addiction." - Capricorn1

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...And...sometime, soon...mental-health issues.

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Steelman

Nov-11-13 9:20 AM

To say there are gateway drugs is not a fair statement. I would bet that more than half of the posters have tried pot growing up and no one had an immediate need to go do h er oin. These are choices that are being made not being forced upon anyone

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