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How do we really know?

November 15, 2013

We go vote behind a curtin for the person we would like in office we don’t see if our vote actually gets counted at the voters polls....

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rmiller

Nov-16-13 11:38 PM

Linda,

It's called the political machine and the powers that be who tabulate the results, period.

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USABorn

Nov-16-13 3:11 PM

Capricorn1 - 11:21 AM "this is America and even morons have the right to vote."

The proof of which is setting in the Oval Office!!!!

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Capricorn1

Nov-15-13 1:20 PM

Lighten up Chuck and enjoy your weekend.

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CMReeder

Nov-15-13 12:42 PM

Capricorn1 was encouraging anyone in the slightest. You are not being helpful. You only like comments from liberals when they agree with you.

You just keep adding the insults.

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Capricorn1

Nov-15-13 11:58 AM

Enigma, that was exactly my intention but if you aren't a liberal Chuck just thinks everything you say is an insult. I happen to think Shaman is extremely intelligent, he just chooses to hide behind his "shtick" for some reason.

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enigma

Nov-15-13 11:30 AM

"Is that what you call it, speaking the truth. You were insulting not constructive."-Chuck

Do you ever look at anything without your prejudice distorting it into something totally different than what it is? Cap was complimenting Sham on his reasonable discourse and encouraging him to continue. Maybe you should take a lesson from Sham on this one.

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Capricorn1

Nov-15-13 11:21 AM

Shaman, if this wasn't America I would say that's a great idea. As far as I'm concerned those undecided that late in the game are those too lazy to get educated on the candidates and will probably end up going to the polls casting their ballot on name recognition only anyway. But like I said, this is America and even morons have the right to vote.

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MrShaman

Nov-15-13 10:43 AM

I'm guessing that's the purpose of a secret-ballot; no one has to worry-about being harassed/intimidated by others who don't agree with their decision/selection. -Shaman

Imagine that Shaman, you finally breakdown and give your own thoughts without all the added hyperbole and tired references..." - Capricorn1

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Then, try this one: ANYONE who's still "undecided"...let's say...2 MONTHS, before an election, shouldn't be allowed to vote, anyhow! There'd be no (actual) way to enforce that, and I'm not suggesting as-much. I'm just reeeaaallly tired o' hearing about "undecided"-voters, when they're (actually) people who haven't been paying attention, anyhow.

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Tgrammiex4

Nov-15-13 10:36 AM

Wow Mr. Shaman, I'm impressed and agree. I guess there's a 1st for everything..

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MrShaman

Nov-15-13 10:35 AM

"Yet you could not stop yourself from insulting him. Way to go!" - CMReeder

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Nahhhhhhhhh...no offense taken.

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CMReeder

Nov-15-13 9:34 AM

Is that what you call it, speaking the truth. You were insulting not constructive.

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CMReeder

Nov-15-13 9:28 AM

"The country's in the toilet and the voters are pulling the flush handle at every election."

So that means that you don't vote!

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Capricorn1

Nov-15-13 9:26 AM

Chuck, how did I insult him? If speaking the truth was insulting, then I guess I'm guilty.

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enigma

Nov-15-13 9:15 AM

Another clueless voter. The votes are not counted in real time, only after the polls close. There are lots of web sites that have the results as soon as they're reported. Does this genius really think that knowing now will make a difference? Reading about it in the paper the day after you voted isn't soon enough? Most people won't take the time to find out anything about the candidates, but they need to know NOW what the results are. The country's in the toilet and the voters are pulling the flush handle at every election.

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CMReeder

Nov-15-13 9:14 AM

Yet you could not stop yourself from insulting him. Way to go!

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Capricorn1

Nov-15-13 8:35 AM

I'm guessing that's the purpose of a secret-ballot; no one has to worry-about being harassed/intimidated by others who don't agree with their decision/selection. -Shaman

Imagine that Shaman, you finally breakdown and give your own thoughts without all the added hyperbole and tired references, and people actually take you seriously. And BTW, I whole heartily agree with your comment.

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JohnZook

Nov-15-13 8:23 AM

Conspiracy Alert!! You know why we have touch screen voting machines- so they can be hacked or even programmed to a certain outcome. the paper train just reflects the outcome after the "corrections". As we saw in the last election, the vote really doesn't count, does it?

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CMReeder

Nov-15-13 7:57 AM

What happen to the sancity of the vote in the letter? You vote to cast your vote not wondering what the next person did.

I will add to Capricorn1's list; gerrymandering keeps incumbents in office, money keeps potential candidates from running, voter apathy & voter suppression keep voters away from the polls, and finally low level investment in voting equipment and training of those who man the polls.

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streetmachine

Nov-15-13 6:44 AM

a web site with a vote counter or counter in the voting polls then we know there is no favoring for any one or any collecting monies as a pay off

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eriklatranyi

Nov-15-13 6:19 AM

We just need more voter education so they stop voting on the basis of those things listed by Capricorn1 (name recognition, party affiliation, etc.)

Thinking voters are an incumbent's worst nightmare!

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gavinf56

Nov-15-13 5:12 AM

...and you get so crazy I have to agree with MrShaman this early in the morning.

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gavinf56

Nov-15-13 5:10 AM

"I feel there should be website where you could go to and see who is in the lead while the voting is going on." - Linda Emmil

The reason we cannot "see who is in the lead" is because that has an effect of suppressing voter turnout. If an individual sees "their" candidate with a heavy lead they may not go and vote.

There is no need to show who won until the voting is over.

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MrShaman

Nov-15-13 4:42 AM

I know who I voted for, but I don't know who the next guy voted for because of privacy the only people who really know are the ones who do the counting.

We need to get something up on a website somehow." - Linda Emmil

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I'm guessing that's the purpose of a secret-ballot; no one has to worry-about being harassed/intimidated by others who don't agree with their decision/selection.

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Capricorn1

Nov-15-13 2:57 AM

I can give you a few reasons; name recognition, "it's not our guy that's the problem" and voting strictly within their own party. When you out those three together it results in the same people staying in office.

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