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A joke

November 15, 2013

Minimum wage laws are a joke. Distribution of wealth is crazy. According to the government. One percent of the nation control 40 percent of the nations cash....

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mikekerstetter

Nov-17-13 3:46 AM

John, low pay for low skilled workers doesn't equate to mistreatment. And in the case of places like McDonalds, the pay of the CEO of corporate McDonalds has nothing to do with what the locally owned franchise pays it's employees. You certainly have the right to protest, but I think your protest would be unfounded.

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JohnHilfirty

Nov-17-13 1:02 AM

mikekerstetter, @ Nov-15-13 4:38 PM

"sideliner-"Vince, some CEO's are worth half million dollar bonuses?"

"If the company and/or shareholders think they are, that is their prerogative. I don't know why you think it's the public's business what a private firm pays it's CEO."" <mikekerstter>

I disagree! If I don't agree with ridiculous bonuses being paid to the CEOs of companies that mistreat their (very young) workforce it is my business if only to the degree that I may choose to boycott that company to communicate my displeasure to that B. of D. and CEO!

It's often the only language they understand!

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rmiller

Nov-16-13 11:43 PM

Is spite of all that life is dealing all of us, please understand there is a God who is in control.

Tommorrow night (Sunday night) at 6pm, at Tabernacle Baptist Church at 4th and Maynard, my son is going to preach. God has gifted him and called him for His purpose. It would be nice if someone, even one person that I've bantered with for years, would come to hear the truth. Think on it...act on it.

6 pm services, over at 7pm...

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JohnHilfirty

Nov-16-13 9:23 PM

"I hear people complain about the gas companies wanting to ship OUR natural gas overseas, well, what did you expect in a global economy? It is the companies charter to make money and more of it for the shareholder." <leaning right>

A couple of questions:

1. Is Alaska part of the U.S.?

2. Isn't Alaska located over a massive oil deposit?

3. And drilling companies drill wells and extract the oil from underground, correct?

4. And the drillers then sell the oil on the world petroleum market, correct.

5. The drillers then pay a fee for each barrel of crude extracted from under Alaska, to the state government, correct?

6. And once a year, the Alaska state government divides and distributes those oil fees to each of the citizens of Alaska, correct?

In Pennsylvania, the gas drillers come in, take over communities, mine the gas, and build pipelines to carry the gas to Texas to be liquified for shipment to foreign countries.

Notice the difference?

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mikekerstetter

Nov-16-13 3:23 PM

Says the person who believes that firefighters, police, prison employees, and U.S. Military, all people who put their lives in harms way for the public, perform no useful work. You are a pathetic, mean spirited person. Like I said before, the Sham of the right.

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mikekerstetter

Nov-16-13 12:04 PM

I still think your view and actions towards public employees are pathetic. You are to public employees what liberals are to the rich. Truth is that you and Sham are equals, just your pathetic philosophies are different.

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MimLogue

Nov-16-13 9:16 AM

sorry lol i misspoke 88 million still alot of bananas

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MimLogue

Nov-16-13 9:14 AM

also i know a lot of people who do work hard every day and are finding the american dream harder to reach/ It is happening all over america look at most of our downtowns, stores are rented a few months later they are available again. what is it the rent is too high the cost of product too low?? the playing field is not level.

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MimLogue

Nov-16-13 9:09 AM

Mr. Chen ceo of blackberry walt disney wells fargo. He makes in stock 88 billion just at blackberry. ,What can one person do with that much money while so many are suffering.

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mikekerstetter

Nov-16-13 7:11 AM

radioactive-"bobbie, why do you consider college professors greedy?"

Bobbie has an unhealthy obsession with anyone who is a government employee. Most teachers a lot of College professors fall into that category. According to Bobbie anyone who is employed in the public sector does not work and is greedy, often equating everyone who works a government job as living on welfare. When I once asked who didn't work and gave the choices of 'firefighter, police, prison employees, court employees, sheriff/deputies, military, etc, Bobbie replied 'all of them'. That pretty much sums up Bobbie's position.

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mikekerstetter

Nov-16-13 7:02 AM

sideliner-"Without those people on the front line there would be no profit and there needs to be financial recognition of that."

If the people don't think they are being paid appropriately they can look for opportunities elsewhere, get trained for a better job, unionize to try to negotiate better wages, or, do like I did, and bide my time, learn my trade, and take advantage of opportunities when they arose, and lived within my means the best I could while doing so. In any case, I don't believe it to be mandatory for companies to give away their profits to low skilled workers just so they can live like others who have obtained skills.

Equal opportunity exists. Equal results do not exist. I've hear many people say that they won't work hard for the money they get paid. Those people, for the most part, are the ones who stay locked in to low paying dead end jobs because no one will advance someone who won't apply themselves.

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GoBB62

Nov-16-13 5:36 AM

"And just where are those jobs? What happened to all the jobs to be created by those tax breaks iven to business? Didn't happen. They kept the money and did not hire" - sideliner

How about those "shovel-ready" jobs from the so-called "stimulus"??

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Ritty77

Nov-15-13 9:12 PM

Do Liberals own businesses, both small and large? Are their employees better compensated than those of Conservatives?

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gavinf56

Nov-15-13 8:43 PM

"Share the wealth with the very people that got it for you." sideliner

Will they then help me with my loss, or would that be solely mine?

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Ritty77

Nov-15-13 7:53 PM

I am solely responsible for the wages I earn; they are the direct result of the individual choices that I made and continue to make. This would be true if I were rich, poor, or anywhere in between.

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underwood

Nov-15-13 6:05 PM

Something is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it, and that includes wages and salaries.

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sideliner

Nov-15-13 5:48 PM

Mike, I think it is the public's business that greed would have those on the front line, those very people that drive profit for the company and high salaries/bonuses for upper level management are paid poverty wages. Without those people on the front line there would be no profit and there needs to be financial recognition of that. It is off the backs of these people that those obscene (I apologize for reusing that word but that is the only word that truly fits) bonuses are able to be paid. Share the wealth with the very people that got it for you.

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mikekerstetter

Nov-15-13 4:43 PM

rick424-"Keep em' poor, keep complaining about healthcare since most of these people don't have healthcare..." Rick, raising the minimum wage will only bring their standard of living up until the higher wages are reflected in the higher prices.

Personally I would love to see a single payer health care system...... but that has nothing to do with what the minimum wage is.

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mikekerstetter

Nov-15-13 4:38 PM

sideliner-"Vince, some CEO's are worth half million dollar bonuses?"

If the company and/or shareholders think they are, that is their prerogative. I don't know why you think it's the public's business what a private firm pays it's CEO.

And as far as McDonalds and most fast food restaurants go, each McDonalds is owned by a private individual, so what the CEO of those companies make has no bearing on what the locally owned restaurant pays their employees.

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sideliner

Nov-15-13 4:32 PM

A 2013 survey done by University of Chicago’s Booth School of Business busts the myth that increasing the minimum wage is a job killer. As a result of this survey leading economists agreed by a nearly 4 to 1 margin that the benefits of raising the minimum wage outweigh the costs and showed little evidence of job reduction as the direct result of increasing the minimum wage. It is a falsehood perpetuated by business and apparently bought hook line and sinker by posters here.

66% of low wage earners work for companies with 100+ employees, NOT small busniness, companies that are earning high profits and can afford a higher wage but choose rather to increase those profits and top manaagement salaries and bonuses.

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gavinf56

Nov-15-13 4:28 PM

If you want to have a successful career, the first thing you will need to do is get out of you "comfort zone".

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gavinf56

Nov-15-13 4:20 PM

"As the economy continues to sputter, many people, especially single mothers, are struggling to pay bills, put food on their tables and provide for their families,” Kim said. “Salaries are stagnant while inflation has driven up the cost of just about everything we buy. The time has come to give workers a raise.” - Rep. Patty Kim, Democrat, Dauphin

Notice the single mothers comment. Does this really surprise anyone that this group would be in the biggest need. Perhaps there are better ways to resolve the issue, but hey, then it wouldn't fit the "greedy old rich narrative".

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gavinf56

Nov-15-13 3:55 PM

You know, a growing economy would negate this minimum wage issue.

See:

Worst economic recovery of the last 100 years.

Brought to you by President Obama.

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catmantwo

Nov-15-13 3:43 PM

Maybe the minimum wage can stay where it is and greedy landlords can lower their rent right now. This would allow for budget help right now for those working on a lower wage.

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catmantwo

Nov-15-13 3:41 PM

Minimum wage positions are designed as "entry level" positions. The goal is to move up to higher paying jobs as you gain experience and show your employer you can handle the work. Then you can make a higher wage. The fact that so many are still on minimum wage is a combination of a poor economy and in many cases, lack of ambition and/or employees skills/work ethic. If you are complaining about a minimun wage job, then show you can do something that is valued higher in the work force. The fact is that the only people really interested in forcing minimum wages higher are the unions, many of whom have built in raise clauses in their contracts that go into effect whenever the minimum wage is increased. This never benefits the employees, as the employer most likely will have to cut jobs or jack up prices to pay for the increases. Bad economics.

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