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A joke

November 15, 2013

Minimum wage laws are a joke. Distribution of wealth is crazy. According to the government. One percent of the nation control 40 percent of the nations cash....

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Capricorn1

Nov-15-13 3:04 AM

So basically what you're saying is a WalMart greeter should be paid middle class income wages.

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mikekerstetter

Nov-15-13 4:09 AM

Yep, I think that's what she is saying, Cap. No longer does society think of those starting jobs as being a stepping stone to something else. They believe that should get paid $75k/year to be a Walmart Greeter or to flip burgers and take orders at the local fast food joint.

I am so grateful that I was taught that the way so succeed was to work hard and look for opportunities to advance.

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VinceKnauff

Nov-15-13 4:40 AM

Maybe to compensate Mim should rent her properties for $150 per month so that minimum wage earner that is supporting a family of four can afford a place to live.

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MrShaman

Nov-15-13 4:48 AM

"No longer does society think of those starting jobs as being a stepping stone to something else. They believe that should get paid $75k/year to be a Walmart Greeter or to flip burgers and take orders at the local fast food joint." - mikekerstetter

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You "hear" these "voices" pretty-often, do you??

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VinceKnauff

Nov-15-13 5:01 AM

What voices, Shammy? The argument you pulled from Mike's post is the exact argument you Liberals use to push for higher and higher minimum wages. Liberals can't tolerate that people might GOD FORBID! actually get paid what they are worth.

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MrShaman

Nov-15-13 5:39 AM

"What voices, Shammy?" - VinceKnauff

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The "ones" that are telling mikekerstetter..."They believe that should get paid $75k/year to be a Walmart Greeter or to flip burgers and take orders at the local fast food joint."

If you want specific-names, it might be best to consult WITH mikekerstetter.

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gavinf56

Nov-15-13 5:39 AM

#1: If they want more than $7.25 per hour, they should go qualify for a better job.

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Premier

Nov-15-13 5:52 AM

So after all these pro $15 minimum wage people get the law passed they go shopping to find out the price of everything has doubled then advocate for a $25 minimum wage and so on and so on.....

That's one way to rid the country of all Mom and Pop sub shops Mim.

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idiottwo

Nov-15-13 6:06 AM

I think the answer is creating more jobs so wages increase to keep people on board or to allow upward movement if one desires more. Just increasing wages means those very same people will pay more for items they purchase to cover the increased wages.

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sideliner

Nov-15-13 6:08 AM

Vince, some CEO's are worth half million dollar bonuses?

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eriklatranyi

Nov-15-13 6:24 AM

Class envy and economics illiteracy on display, folks!

This is what happens when people do not understand how taxes, wages, regulations, etc. affect ALL OF US when any one of them is changed!

Some actually think you can raise taxes or the minimum wage and everything else stays the same.

Absolute ignorance of basic economics on display!

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underwood

Nov-15-13 7:16 AM

People who complain loudest about the consequences of crony Capitalism are the same ones that call for more of the government that encourages crony Capitalism and allows it in the first place. You just can’t reason with anyone with that degree of reasoning ability.

Basic economics tells us that if you raise the price of something you’ll get less of it. The high minimum wage is the main reason there’s high unemployment at the lower end of the labor force.

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rick424

Nov-15-13 7:45 AM

Keep em' poor, keep complaining about healthcare since most of these people don't have healthcare, keep telling us giving money to the rich will create jobs, keep telling us those things while the rich use government breaks to send our jobs over seas. Keep telling us about those very limited use phones we give the poor while just today I was reading about all kinds of money we are giving an out of state developer so he can get richer. Keep telling us these things.

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CMReeder

Nov-15-13 8:04 AM

LOL

I case you did not notice corporate America treats all jobs as low level jobs.

There is not wealth distribution through capitalism. Those with the most wealth keep perpetuating the cronyism that is rampant in capitalism. The decision from Citizen United made it even more possible for those with most wealth to get a tighter grip on regulations and government and in their favor.

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gavinf56

Nov-15-13 8:19 AM

" I case you did not notice corporate America treats all jobs as low level jobs." - CMReeder

Hmmm, they don't treat my job as "low level". I actually get paid rather well.

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MimLogue

Nov-15-13 8:24 AM

No what i am saying is get the corruption out of politics first why is so hard for a small business to compete with these corporate mall stores? Why are downtowns across america dying or dead?? Why huh why?? what u say?? huh why is that??

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leaningright

Nov-15-13 8:27 AM

"There is not wealth distribution through capitalism."-CM Reeder

So....whats your choice then Mr Reeder?

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ToTEXASfromPA

Nov-15-13 8:31 AM

Woe is Mim, woe is Mim.

Wants the government to change the rules so she can make more money. This is the same government that politicians give legislative favors back to the businesses (so they can make more money) that get them elected by funding their election campaigns.

People need to elect representatives that are concerned about the people when they are developing legislation and not getting re-elected nor getting rich through their office.

We need to change campaign contribution laws so no businesses of any size can donate money and the largest individual contribution is $20. We need to eliminate all meals, gifts, trips, etc. for elected officials. If a trip is important enough, it should be paid by the individual or the government entity they represent.

Integrity, honesty, honor, knowledge, wisdom, selflessness are all characteristic that we should expect and look for.

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VinceKnauff

Nov-15-13 8:32 AM

Vince, some CEO's are worth half million dollar bonuses?

Absolutely, if their company is profitable through their leadership. It's called merit pay. If the shareholders believe that leader makes their company better then they deserve to be rewarded for it.

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VinceKnauff

Nov-15-13 8:37 AM

why is so hard for a small business to compete with these corporate mall stores? Why are downtowns across america dying or dead?

Because shoppers would rather shop indoors where there are all sorts of stores close together than the downtown alternative. What did you think the reason was, Mim?

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JohnZook

Nov-15-13 8:41 AM

Let's see if I have this straight- Man starts business, people buy product, man buys bigger building, hires people and pays them what he can afford, man hires accountants, lawyers because of gov't rules and regs, business becomes successful. Now the man is demonized because he developed a useful product after years of developing with his own money, bought a building with his own money, hires people to make sure the gov't regs are followed, and pays employees what he can afford, sometimes taking very little or nothing for himself. This man is the example of a very bad capitalist. Da mn him for not paying his employees more!!

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leaningright

Nov-15-13 8:44 AM

Our own Government through lack of good policys drives these companies out. They will go where they can make a profit, you know, that dirty word among Liberals. I hear people complain about the gas companies wanting to ship our natural gas overseas, well, what did you expect in a global economy? It is the companies charter to make money and more of it for the shareholder. They will go and sell the product where they can make the most money,and if the company books look great, it may be best for the shareholders for the company to sell, wouldn't you? Its called capitalism, it is who America is, get used to it. Nothing is free and life is not fair and it is not our fault.

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Capricorn1

Nov-15-13 8:44 AM

Keep em' poor -Rick

Government social programs do a fine job at just that, keeping them poor. Why go out and get a job when after you report the income you will no longer qualify for the level of free money you're used to by doing nothing? How is a system designed like that actually encouraging people to better themselves and start on their career in hopes of one day making more than minimum wage? If you make it easier to earn more than minimum wage by doing nothing then you are only hurting the very ones you're trying to help. How is capitalism to blame there?

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ToTEXASfromPA

Nov-15-13 8:44 AM

"No what i am saying is get the corruption out of politics first why is so hard for a small business to compete with these corporate mall stores?"--mimlogue

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I was typing my post when Mim was posting her's so I didn't see it. Maybe I was a little harsh against her. We actually see very similarly on some of the points. Maybe we can talk about answering to the higher call of Jesus Christ and what he expects us to act like; for instance love God, love people. Or...."For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness." --1 Timothy 6:10-11

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MimLogue

Nov-15-13 8:56 AM

bigest eg/ bill gates who we all pat on back for philanthropy gving to other countries, when thru corrupt anti trust laws he put everyone else out of business and every famiy had to pay him 100$ 4 his window program, smart or corrupt ? Pat him on the back?? Its all history but is it still happening??

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