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November 17, 2013

In a recent editorial titled "Did court go too far?" the Sun-Gazette proudly argued that our president has superhuman power....

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mikekerstetter

Nov-17-13 4:02 AM

Yada yada yada, here comes an ice age caused by man. Yada yada yada, here comes global warming caused by man. Yada yada yada, here comes climate change caused by man.

Yes scientists agree that the climate is changing. Always has, always will. The cause is natural and despite their best efforts nothing conclusive has been put forth to prove otherwise.

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CMReeder

Nov-17-13 7:02 AM

Good letter but of course it won't sway the entrenched deniers.

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sideliner

Nov-17-13 7:23 AM

How can one give an intelligent argument against carbon dioxide emissions through human activity does not effect the air we breath and the atmosphere that protects the planet? How can one intelligently argue that pouring poison into the air is a good thing?

I don't get these guys, mike included, that ignore the obvious. And ok, so you are not a scientist. But take the word of the experts that agree that human activity does indeed have an impact on the environment. Try to argue that with some modicum of intelligence.

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Premier

Nov-17-13 7:24 AM

...or the entrenched agreers?

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Premier

Nov-17-13 7:27 AM

Sideliner, can we then agree that 1 volcanic eruption will put thousands of time more poisons in the air than all of man kind ever has?

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mfross

Nov-17-13 7:30 AM

Statistics and percentages can and will be manipulated to support whatever side the author of any given report supports. All the peer reviewed papers I have read state the opposite of your 97%. I am pretty sure more than 3% of scientists write for recognized journals.

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gavinf56

Nov-17-13 7:48 AM

Oh, here we go with this "97 percent of every living scientist agreeing on something does not mean there is widespread debate on something" lie again.

Perhaps Mr Saunders should do some better research himself.

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Ritty77

Nov-17-13 7:54 AM

"Well, what you call alarmist I call "scientists"...since over 97 percent agree that global warming is in fact happening and is a result of carbon dioxide emissions due to human activity."

Parrot.

See: "Forbes: Global Warming Alarmists Caught Doctoring '97-Percent Consensus' Claims"

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enigma

Nov-17-13 8:00 AM

If all the Kool-Aid drinking fools out there that believe this propaganda would stop breathing, it would cut down on a lot of CO2 emissions. I wonder if this guy has figured out that it's the same people who lied about how wonderful ObamaCare is that lied to him about all of these "statistics" he's vomiting in this letter. Here's a question for all of you climate change believers; How much of your standard of living are you willing to give up for a lie?

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ToTEXASfromPA

Nov-17-13 8:13 AM

Are you ready to pay the carbon tax? Democrats want to tax your carbon footprint.

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CaveFelem

Nov-17-13 8:32 AM

And don't worry enigma, it won't be the government elite or wealthy giving up their standard of living. It will the the middle and lower classes sitting in the dark and cold, paying through the nose for a carbon tax they can barely afford. The wealthy can pay for carbon offsets, and still enjoy their current standard of living.

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eriklatranyi

Nov-17-13 8:46 AM

sideliner said:

"How can one intelligently argue that pouring poison into the air is a good thing?"

What you call "poison", plants call "required".

So, global warming believers want to kill all plant life by depriving them of their required carbon dioxide!

We also need carbon dioxide in our blood to stay alive. Carbon dioxide is the primary source of carbon for human life. We better limit the number of people who contain and exhale this "poison"

Fermentation creates carbon dioxide. We better ban all wine, beer and algae for fuel processes.

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eriklatranyi

Nov-17-13 8:47 AM

Global warming believers keep telling us that "science" is on their side.

I never knew science was done by taking a vote of scientists with the winner being repeated as FACT.

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eriklatranyi

Nov-17-13 8:50 AM

In one of quietest years for hurricanes in North America, we are told this is not evidence contrary to global warming.

Meanwhile, one typhoon hits the Philippines and the "believers" immediately tell us it is proof of global warming.

Selective evidence only makes their case less believable.

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Premier

Nov-17-13 9:13 AM

And don't forget the FUNDING! If Global warming is proven a myth most of that 97% would be out of a job.

Sounds like politicians doesn't it?

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hopeforfuture

Nov-17-13 9:14 AM

IF those people who truly believe humans create global warming shouldn't they be looking to the countries that are the biggest contributors. China comes to mind. BUT no all of the global warming is the fault of the greedy American. Ridicules, I for one am getting tired of being blamed for all the global warming.

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farmer

Nov-17-13 10:55 AM

Statistics and percentages can and will be manipulated to support whatever side the author of any given report supports. All the peer reviewed papers I have read state the opposite of your 97%. mfross Mr. Fross, just to clarify, could you give us a short list of the scientific journals you've been reading? Thank you for your time.

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mikekerstetter

Nov-17-13 12:38 PM

sideliner-"How can one give an intelligent argument against carbon dioxide emissions through human activity does not effect the air we breath and the atmosphere that protects the planet?

Sideliner, when I was in school all the scientists insisted that we were headed to an ice age because of our usage of carbon fuels and the carbon dioxide emissions. In the 90's they changed up, and insisted that we were headed in the direction of global warming and all the ice was melting and most coastal cities would be under water in short order. Now they've changed again, and they are telling us the 'climate change' is upon us and it is going to bring widespread increases in extreme weather.

Given the three different scenarios given in the last 4 decades, how can one seriously try to claim we are to blame for anything happening with the climate? Intelligence tells me the scientists have absolutely no frickin idea what is going on with the climate.

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mikekerstetter

Nov-17-13 12:41 PM

CMReeder-"...it won't sway the entrenched deniers."

Nor will anything sway the entrenched believers.

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Premier

Nov-17-13 1:26 PM

Wow, Friday morning it was 26 degrees here and yesterday morning it was 53 degrees....we are doomed!

It's called weather for a reason.

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Premier

Nov-17-13 1:31 PM

Mike, everything must remain a consent or we have to throw a trillion dollars at it to find out thing evolve.

A third grader could tell these environmentalist the reality of things ever changing but they would say "well next year you'll be in forth grade and we mush do research to find out why".

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Premier

Nov-17-13 1:33 PM

insert:why things evolve

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MrShaman

Nov-17-13 3:41 PM

"Another laughably false claim by the Sun- Gazette is that "unilateral action by the U.S. would have only a miniscule effect on the situation"." - Richard Saunders

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...As-if the T-Bagger types ever NEEDED a standard-bearer for their laziness.

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"Those WHO CAME BEFORE US made CERTAIN that this country RODE THE FIRST WAVES OF THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTIONS, the first waves of MODERN INVENTION, and the first wave of nuclear power, and this generation DOES NOT INTEND TO FOUNDER in the backwash of the coming age of space.

We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too." - JFK, September 12, 1962

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MrShaman

Nov-17-13 3:52 PM

"How can one give an intelligent argument against carbon dioxide emissions through human activity does not effect the air we breath and the atmosphere that protects the planet? How can one intelligently argue that pouring poison into the air is a good thing?" - sideliner

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I'm guessing it's those (same) folks who are convinced "The Second Coming" is right-around-the-corner, so...what's the point?

So much for the whole "stewardship"-trip.

"And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it." - Genesis 2:15

(Still lookin' for the part, in the Bible, where it suggests laziness is somehow "divine".)

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MrShaman

Nov-17-13 3:55 PM

"Sideliner, can we then agree that 1 volcanic eruption will put thousands of time more poisons in the air than all of man kind ever has?" - Premier

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Lemme guess...you "forgot" where that lil' factoid resides, right??

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