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Lies and more lies

November 19, 2013

When one tells a falsehood, it can sometimes be overlooked or forgiven, but when one tells the same falsehood over and over to deliberately deceive others, then that person is an out and out lier....

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FortySixand2

Nov-23-13 5:09 AM

I'm guessing the writer was equally angry that we went to war based upon lies. Yellowcake. Aluminum tubes. WMD's. Mushroom clouds. Pay for itself. Mission Accomplished. Abhu Ghraib. Outing CIA agent Valerie Plame.

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gavinf56

Nov-20-13 5:26 PM

I don't hate the French, I just have no desire to be like them.

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rick424

Nov-20-13 4:28 PM

Garben78, I did have interest, I chose not to. Sold the mineral rights when I sold the house. Please get your facts straight. I left and I am very happy where I am. No white Texas pickup trucks.

Spineless French, interesting. You guys on the right are a real interesting bunch for sure. Hate, Hate, Hate.

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leaningright

Nov-20-13 3:53 PM

David- i know people from Canada and they do not like the healthcare there. My healthcare is fine for now but when the employer mandate kicks in i am sure we will be told to go to the exchanges, which i will not do. I am just saying, if you think another country is so much better then why not go try it out instead of experimenting with our lives here in the USA. I do not trust the US gov't with my healthcare, PERIOD David. If you want to trust them, hey, have at it, I will not under any circumstances use this gov't plan, and finally David, Obama needs to learn not to outright lie to the American people. Maybe if he had spent more time on his signature achievement instead of worring about destructing the republicans and playing golf he would have had a better outcome. In the real world he would have been fired for his performance. Look at the polls, they dont lie like the President. What i have learned is do not trust the Gov't to do anything right or what is best for the people.

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DavidBross

Nov-20-13 1:04 PM

Bobbie2- 1. My post was hardly a diatribe. 2. I offered no more evidence for my statement about Germany's economy than I did for my statements about healthcare, and yet you called my statement about Germany's economy a fact. I think that you are equating what you agree with as fact. 3. One source is "Healing America", I forget the author's name. Leaningright- your response to Rick424 shows an animosity on your part to anything that might be considered better than what we have here. If others can learn from things we do, why can't we learn from others? You will miss many opportunities to learn and improve with that attitude.

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Garben78

Nov-20-13 8:49 AM

Poor rick the same boy who moved because he had no reasonable play in the gas industry but whose community is benefiting greatly from want to compare the spineless French the same French who turn their backs to us and snub us wow as he stated before he just ran away from it all maybe perhaps his green card is about to expire?

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Garben78

Nov-20-13 8:46 AM

Good news shaman proctology is covered in the obamaidontcare package they will finally be able to research you and reeders chronic migraines

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Steelman

Nov-20-13 8:19 AM

Keep digging!! You're gonna NEED a reeeaaallly-deep-hole, to hide in, once the ACA-website is up-and-running, properly!!! -Shaman

No hole needed, we will never see the day.

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leaningright

Nov-20-13 7:50 AM

"By the way France is doing very well."-Rick424

Please move there Rick.

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gavinf56

Nov-20-13 4:35 AM

"I don't think the difference is about quality as it is a difference in accessibility." - DavidBross

...and I don't think the difference is about accessibility as it is lifestyle differences.

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rmiller

Nov-19-13 10:06 PM

"I guess I just keep thinking (based on NOTHING, really) that you "conservatives" will learn a "little" SOMETHING about consistency."

We are learning....about consistency, Obama, consistently a liar.

It must be tough trying to follow the trail of lies with a pail of water to put out the fires and bring some sort of resemblance to the last lie told. What is consistent is your pathological need to defend the indefensible.

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GoBB62

Nov-19-13 9:40 PM

" Open, WIDE!!!!!!

Here's a lemon-meringue...FIRED, STRAIGHT-AT-YOU!!!!!!!!

WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" - sham

Oh look, sham's a comedian now.

Oh wait, he's always been one.

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DavidBross

Nov-19-13 9:10 PM

Countries like Germany, France, Japan, Canada, England all have better outcomes for their healthcare dollars than we do. Lower infant mortality, healthier population 60+ years of age and it cost less per person than for us. I don't think the difference is about quality as it is a difference in accessibility. And, especially in the case of Germany, their economy is doing very well.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Nov-19-13 7:29 PM

"By the way France is doing very well."

++

Here's your sign!

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Capricorn1

Nov-19-13 7:03 PM

"In recent decades, the development of state favors and aid in certain economic sectors, along with the cost of major infrastructure programs and social services, have led to a huge increase in the budget of the French state. To finance its programs, the French government, like all others, has had to resort to increased taxation; but in France, a larger than usual proportion of this taxation has fallen on business, rather than on private individuals. French business is currently burdened by the world's highest level of payroll tax, which at 43% are far higher than in any other country. The next highest rates are found in Spain and the Czech Republic (30%), while businesses in the UK pay a payroll tax of just 11%, and those in the USA just 5%. In an increasingly global economy, this disparity is damaging for French industry, and is one of the perceived causes of endemic high unemployment in France."

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gavinf56

Nov-19-13 6:25 PM

"By the way France is doing very well." - rick424

That opinion may help explain a lot.

See;

Downgraded France has 'bundle of problems'

French economy contracts 0.1 percent in setback for Hollande

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Capricorn1

Nov-19-13 4:48 PM

Rick, check out The French economy: strengths and weaknesses at about-France dot com

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VinceKnauff

Nov-19-13 3:56 PM

And today we find out that a worker in the Census office, at the order of his higher-ups, intentionally fudged the unemployment data in Obama's favor prior to the 2012 elections. It doesn't matter where we look, we find more and more lies told by this administration to cover up the failures they have foisted upon this country.

Sounds like the right wing pundits have been correct all along about this pathological charlatan in the Oval Office.

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rick424

Nov-19-13 3:25 PM

By the way France is doing very well.

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rick424

Nov-19-13 3:23 PM

I would expect intelligent dialog. Instead we get a crazy letter with equally crazy comments. You are welcome leaning right for proving my point.

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hopeforfuture

Nov-19-13 3:16 PM

I think that until MrShamam entered this post the dialog was interesting. What everyone should do is just ignore his rambling.

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leaningright

Nov-19-13 3:04 PM

Rick424- here is a real idea.You want one, you get one. Stay out of our health insurance and take care of only the uninsured instead of imposing a socialist liberal law onto us that we do not want. If you want a socialist government move to France, you will be happier there. Theres an idea,and btw, we have lives. Do you think you are going to solve the problems of the world here? Thanks Rick

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rick424

Nov-19-13 2:44 PM

Again, back and forth and name calling. Not much has changed. No real dialog. I posed a question the last time and only one person responded with real ideas. For the rest of you , just get a life.

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VinceKnauff

Nov-19-13 1:18 PM

Open, WIDE!!!!!!

Here's a lemon-meringue...FIRED, STRAIGHT-AT-YOU!!!!!!!!

WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This post makes clear why Shaman uses a pseudonym (look it up Shammy) when posting here - to save his family the embarrassment from being associated with him. Good move there Bud.

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Capricorn1

Nov-19-13 1:07 PM

Shaman, once again, nothing but more deflection. Man up and explain why Obama needed to deceive millions of Americans. You constantly bring up the Bush lies but refuse to address the lies from this administration because ya got NOTHING. Your childish little quips are just making you look more foolish.

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