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November 21, 2013

OK, so let me get this straight. The fixes for the health care website are now estimated to cost over a billion dollars(that's with a B folks)....

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rmiller

Nov-24-13 10:19 PM

As for your quip on my being super religious....puleeeeze......

That's probably the most misinformation piece you've delivered my way since our posting history.... :) I am not religious, I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and He hated religious people......so as you put it, "seems odd, doesn't it?" :)

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rmiller

Nov-24-13 10:12 PM

outside of life threatening circumstances, caps on meds given repeatedly for narcotic prescriptions, random drug testing for those on any form of medical assistance, state/county/local jobs for welfare recipients on infrastructure work that can't be completed because the funds aren't there, etc. We need to improve our welfare system and reduce the dependents drastically or at least make them productive. Im fairly certain that people don't resent helping, what they resent is when people won't help themselves. The welfare system is stagnant as far as motivational, it is growing by the numbers, however and it's going to get worse. I fully understand those who work resenting those who don't. Not can't...won't...

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rmiller

Nov-24-13 9:57 PM

At some point, I paid for someone else to get free assistance, regardless of any bar that would want them to not work. Many people on here never received one dime of assistance and at any measure, minimum wage is no way to make a living. If the govt. wouldn't penalize someone who wants to work by taking away theirhealth insurance or food stamps (and I do mean stamps - not a carte blanche card) then perhaps people would go to work, saving the govt. at least that amount of dollars shelled out endlessly. This does not speak to the masses who simply enjoy laziness as a way of life and I'm sure your wife and you can attest to that faction of people also. There is massive waste in medical care. People abuse the medical assistance program. There should be a cap and co pay of considerable amount before someone whimsically visits a Dr/ER for the sniffles....etc. There should be two opinions on an extremely expensive test by two Dr.'s before the test is ordered ,

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rmiller

Nov-24-13 9:45 PM

Rick, I do have a bleeding heart, for babies/children and senior citizens. I tell people anyone between those ages can get in my cross hairs real easy. :) Seriously, Our system is flawed in many respects and at my age, I've lived long enough to know that everyone does not have the same opportunities. That being said however, it would fare people much better if the govt. didn't make victims out of people for their own political gain. Here's an example. When I was going through college and had my son and was getting Medicaid for him, it was only during the time that I would be in college. I got no food stamps or cash. I borrowed money for college and had a job cleaning homes for a living for extra cash. Here is the caveat. Had I gone to work full time, I would have lost my Medicaid for my son because I would have made too much money. So, the incentive to work is soon squashed by the fear of my son losing medical insurance. Before I got pregnant, I had worked all my life.

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rick424

Nov-23-13 11:02 PM

I respect your opinion rmiller. Yes some do fail. But some succeed. And without that help there was no hope for them. Sounds to me you do not have a lot of faith in humanity. I guess I am different because I believe in all. And you are the super religious one. Seems odd doesn't it?

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rmiller

Nov-23-13 10:12 PM

Rick, I would venture that some do and that some on here, like yourself know people also. The unfortunate part is that most don't. I do believe that the govt. makes it impossible for people to either get up by their boot straps if you will because I've been there, done it. Behind those who do get out, look forward, want change....they are determined in their minds. This health care system is now posing even a greater dependency on big brother and our current nanny state can't support more load. This is a quagmire that no one person has the answer to. What bothers most, I'm guessing is that both the baby and the bath water are bad.

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rick424

Nov-23-13 8:57 PM

Yes rmiller I know of many. Some went on to college others got jobs and are out of the system. There are many good programs out there that do work. Some are churched based, some private and some government. All work together and the outcome can be good. The republicans like to cut and it hurts these people and they end up staying in the system with no way out. The odd thing is most of these people in this area vote republican and that just baffles me. Yes they made a mistake in life, but they are willing to move on and become productive members of society. So by cutting programs it only cost more in the long run.

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rmiller

Nov-23-13 12:59 PM

"There are many that are trying to get out of the rut they are in"

O.K. Rick, do you have any examples that you are personally aware of?

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FortySixand2

Nov-23-13 4:54 AM

Another example cons don't get "irony". The writer is retired military throwing scorn upon "government run healthcare". Really?

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Ritty77

Nov-22-13 8:54 PM

Drone.

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rick424

Nov-22-13 8:11 PM

Big business at it's finest Ritty.

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Ritty77

Nov-22-13 6:50 PM

More news: "It looks like the grossly inept saga of Fisker Automotive, one of the Obama administration’s many stimulus-backed, politically-selected pet 'investments' and the vehicular cousin of failed solar manufacturer Solyndra, is finally nearing its inevitable conclusion. The relevant portion of the tale began with the Obama Department of Energy dishing out $190 million or so on what was originally a more than $500 million loan guarantee back in 2011; then, somewhere along the way, it turned out that the two thousand or so promised domestic green-energy jobs actually went to workers at their Karma model’s production facility when it was relocated to Finland; and now, after selling the company off to Chinese investors, the DOE has only managed to recover a net $53 million of their loaned funds, putting taxpayers at an almost $140 million loss."

Jeez. Even Spaulding Smails could pick a winner now and again.

Drink! Happy weekend!

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rick424

Nov-22-13 6:08 PM

51% = you lose. :-) Have a nice evening Bobbie.

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Ritty77

Nov-22-13 3:29 PM

Yikes.

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Shulski

Nov-22-13 2:28 PM

Get out your calculator. Divide one billion (1,000,000,000) by three hundred fourteen million (314,000,000). The answer= 3.184... So, if the Obamacare website actually did cost a billion dollars, it would cost each American $3.18 (three dollars and eighteen cents). Basic, elementary arithmetic. Not 3 million dollars an American.

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rick424

Nov-22-13 1:56 PM

Bobbie said on September 21, 2013 "Sorry Gunny, I'm not really interested in respect..."

Have a nice day Bobbie.

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BornHere

Nov-22-13 11:12 AM

rick, someone said to me just the other day, "that our first teacher is our own heart" and you sir have a big heart.

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CMReeder

Nov-22-13 10:54 AM

You all do understand that what the writer is saying is that it would be better if there was pool of money to cover everyone in the US for their healthcare. All it would take is a billion dollars. In other words universal healthcare.

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rick424

Nov-22-13 9:46 AM

Just for the record I work for everything I have. I have never been without health insurance. My wife works with the poor and it irritates me the way people talk on here. There are many that are trying to get out of the rut they are in. You people just slam them.

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rick424

Nov-22-13 9:40 AM

Sorry, I was by no means being disrespectful, I should have asked first. From now on it will be leaningright.

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leaningright

Nov-22-13 8:54 AM

Rick- And thats what we have been doing for a long time Rick. Go check into a state ran hospital for yourself if thats what you want. I cant stand people that want the govt to do everything for them. You sound like one of them. Whining liberals that is Rick. Also, I do not believe I have ever referred to you as anything other than Rick Or Rick424, so if you feel the need to be a child and call me MR Right then go ahead but it has no meaning to me other then to prove your a child Rick. If i am wrong on that then sorry.

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rick424

Nov-22-13 8:48 AM

Mr right. We will pay for it anyway. Only more in the long run. Ask for profit hospitals how they love this.

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leaningright

Nov-22-13 8:44 AM

The hospital cant refuse you service anyways

Thats what i said spike.

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spike2

Nov-22-13 8:20 AM

leaning right, yo might do what you need to do. a bit more research on senate, cloture, filibuster reform, etc.. i think u must be tired. hospitals can not refuse treatment, they receive federal funds. no one is ever denied treatment through the E.R..

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BornHere

Nov-22-13 8:12 AM

Thank you nobud, after everything was over I found out that Blue Cross was not allowed to make that decision because Renal Cell is not on the list of "Veterans Diseases Associated with Agent Orange", so they were wrong and they were playing games with my husbands life.

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