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It is not race

November 22, 2013

Recently I watched part of an interview on TV where Oprah Winfrey stated that some people are Racial when it comes to Pres. Obama....

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rmiller

Nov-25-13 1:23 PM

Spike, I concur with your generational anyalysis and theory with resepct to racism. It gives one cause to ponder. Yes, I pointed out the black and white specifically to prove my intent in my feelings/thoughts regarding this man who calls himself our president. Indeed, I don't like the person, white or black, that was my point. It has nothing to do with color, it has everything to do with the individual. Hatred does not have a corner on the market with race. I will also agree with you that all people carry even a "subliminal" disdain for some human in some form based on any number of issues. But, the race card, with Obama has gotten very old and is without merit for most individuals. It presumes that we (they) can't think about specific policies/actions on our own and disagree with them, simply because we don't like them, period.

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spike2

Nov-24-13 8:00 AM

rmiller - Hi. We are programmed historically to be racist. Most of us are first generation to fully reject racism and segregation. Our children, second generation, do far better and there children are nearly oblivious. Stating you don't like his black side or his white side is again reflective of an attitude, a necessity to point out he is mixed. I'm not convinced most people in our age group are consciously and deliberately racist but remember many laws and attitudes changed when we were in Jr. H.S. or H.S. I think we are usually the poorest critics of the workings of our own subliminal thoughts. We may not even recognize in ourselves what others see. I believe we all assume we are not because we came of age in a generation that supported civil rights legislation.

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max4ever

Nov-23-13 9:03 PM

I can't believe Sham is still spewing his hatred and racist comments. I thought he would have been shackled to a bed in a mental facility long ago. He is one sick dude!

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rmiller

Nov-23-13 10:29 AM

Excellent post Cap!

Bottom line, because he is black (half) special treatments for his horrific trail of deceit has been given. Anyone who differs with his philosophy and contempt for the rule of law, does so based on his actions, not his skin color.

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rmiller

Nov-23-13 10:25 AM

""When we need to say I'm not racist, we usually are."- spike2"

Hi spike! With that logic then, liberals/progressives and others within that philosophical order would be racists. Their claim is others are racists, but they aren't.

It is not a fair accusation and is only serving to further divide this country based on assumptions only. Do we have racists? Yes. But we also reserve the right to like or dislike an individual based entirely on character (or lack thereof) rather than skin color. As I stated on another LTE, I don't just disdain his black side, I don't like his white side either.

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Capricorn1

Nov-23-13 10:25 AM

When we need to say I'm not racist, we usually are. There would be no need for a disclaimer. -Spike

Spike, I would have to disagree. The racist label has been thrown around way to freely by many liberals when anyone disagrees with our black president. It's evident on this very message board. Personally I'm not going to sit by and allow anyone to slander me when I know in my heart that I've spent years helping to mold young men and woman of all races in order to make them responsible, hard working adults. Unjustified, broad stroke liberal labeling since Obama has been in office has done nothing more than tear apart race relations. And trust me, if I was the most powerful black man in this country, I wouldn't allow anyone in my party to use racism as a defense of the policies I believe in. It shows nothing but weakness.

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cheyenne

Nov-23-13 9:26 AM

"When we need to say I'm not racist, we usually are."- spike2.

So, I guess you are saying that when someone is accused of something, they are admitting guilt by defending themselves? By that logic, every person wrongfully accused of murder, robbery, etc., who claimed they didn't do it, was actually admitting guilt. It seems to me that it is more likely that the actual racists, would feel the need to be repeatedly pointing the finger at others and saying, "he did it, he did it."

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GoBB62

Nov-23-13 8:30 AM

"When we need to say I'm not racist, we usually are. There would be no need for a disclaimer." spike2

By the same token, When one person calls another "racist", it is usually the accuser that has racist tendencies.

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spike2

Nov-23-13 8:14 AM

When we need to say I'm not racist, we usually are. There would be no need for a disclaimer.

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CMReeder

Nov-23-13 7:52 AM

The right covers up their tracks by saying they only discuss Obama's policies. Si his birth certificate is policy. His religion is policy. His middle name is policy. His father is Kenyan, that is policy too. His mother was married twice and both time to foreigners, that's policy too.

There are some on the right who are very racist when it comes to Barack Obama. The other right winger always defend them.

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FortySixand2

Nov-23-13 6:58 AM

This letter is nothing more than propaganda. I've read Ms Temple's comments over the years, and there is no possibility she's ever voted for a Democratic presidential candidate. She wants to project the air of reasonable-ness by lying about voting for the man. Now, if only the black president would learn his place, we could all get along much better, huh! Classic racists blaming the black man for their hatred.

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cheyenne

Nov-22-13 9:17 PM

Many of the right-leaning posters here are hoping Dr. Carson is a candidate in 2016. Therefore, the Liberal/Regressive racist accusations, like most of their claims, are a SHAM.

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Ritty77

Nov-22-13 5:35 PM

"If that makes me a racist, so be it."

You're one of those rare racists that actually marry a different race. Just for cover, I'm guessing. ;)

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gavinf56

Nov-22-13 3:45 PM

Yep, I disagree with many of President Obama's political positions. If that makes me a racist, so be it. (shrugs shoulders)

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hopeforfuture

Nov-22-13 2:21 PM

MrShaman -Do you think you could think kind thoughts for a whole day I challenge you. Remember this- do unto others as you would have them do to you.

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Capricorn1

Nov-22-13 12:18 PM

Given this asinine leftist belief, I must hate whites because I don't like Clinton. -GoBB62

Me too because I think Biden is even more inept than Obama!

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GoBB62

Nov-22-13 12:00 PM

Sham and Chuck are demonstrating their ridiculous belief that all disagreement with this President is inherently racist." - enigma

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"From you bigots??

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!" - little mind sham

Given this asinine leftist belief, I must hate whites because I don't like Clinton.

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Capricorn1

Nov-22-13 11:35 AM

Oh and one more thing Shaman, personally I don't see Obama as the most powerful black man in America. Because if he was, I would think he would have done SOMETHING to help better the lives of his fellow black men the last fives years. Instead they are killing each other like never before while he sits in the Oval Office snubbing his nose at the entire black community. I wouldn't call that acting like a proud black man that has concern and wants to better things for his people. You don't do that by throwing more welfare at them to keep them quiet.

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Capricorn1

Nov-22-13 11:26 AM

OK I'll bite, Shammy - what does the BBZZZT mean?" - VinceKnauff

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...That, the writer had already (earlier) demonstrated...AND, VERBALIZED...their racist-"tendencies". -Shaman

Ok Shaman, you included me in that so tell me how I demonstrated or vocalized my racist tendencies. Put up or shut up. And while you're typing, include how YOU have helped more young black men and women better their lives than I have. And remember I have over 20 years of leading and mentoring young men and women of all races. Let me guess, ya got yourself a black friend and ya voted for Obama so you definitely can't be racist.

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CMReeder

Nov-22-13 10:39 AM

Does not anyone on the right understand what 'some' means?

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eriklatranyi

Nov-22-13 10:25 AM

PLEASE!!! What (OTHER) reason would some "good ol' boy", like McConnell, have...to make that threat??

I guess McConnell should have offered to campaign for President Obama's re-election instead.

Liberal stupidity on display!

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USABorn

Nov-22-13 10:08 AM

MrShaman - 9:17 AM

"Gimme a break!

He smacked-around an entire ROOM-FULL, of "conservatives", over that bogus-excuse!!!

See:

Obama Dismantles Republican Caucus Part 1 of 7 - YouTube"

Why in the world would anyone want to watch 7 videos full of nothing but Dumbama answering questions with lies after his speech of lies?

As for him dismantling the republican caucus, the only thing up for dismantling is DUMBAMACARE!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Poor Sham...

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mahs81

Nov-22-13 10:06 AM

When one person is responsible for almost 40% of the comments to a LTE, me thinks it is time for said person to get a life. You know, find a hobby, go for a walk, read a novel or although I know it to be impossible ... practice restraint.

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USABorn

Nov-22-13 10:02 AM

There were three good, documented chances to take out bin Laden in about a nine-month period between May 1998 and February 1999. In all three, information and intelligence were not the problems. Some person or persons not being able to decide to act was.

Too bad Clinton couldn't make a decision where Osama was involved. Had he done so, the nearly 3,000 killed would be alive today.

But you can't expect Sham to tell the whole truth now can you? Just a pathetic liberal who tries to cover up Dumbama's stupidity with half-truths and Bush-bashing.

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USABorn

Nov-22-13 9:55 AM

MrShaman - 9:03 AM

"Bombshell: Newly Released CIA Documents Prove Bush Could have Killed Bin Laden; Prevented 911 - Salem-News"

Michael Scheuer, a 22-year veteran of the CIA that used to head up “Alec Station,” the Counterterrorist Center’s Osama bin Laden unit. Scheuer is the individual regularly referred to in the 9/11 Commission report as "Mike."

Scheuer referred to a July 5, 2006, op-ed he had written in the Washington Times wherein he spoke of "Clinton's failure to capture or kill bin Laden on any of the eight to 10 chances afforded by CIA reporting."

Scheuer later described in a lengthy interview NUMEROUS missed opportunities by the Clinton administration relating to bin Laden all of which were VERIFIED by the 9/11 Commission report.

cont'd

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