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December 1, 2013

For everyone not counting the dollars, these monies are on record, on file for anyone that takes their time to look and for those that are commenting about taxing gas companies, you need to get......

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Capricorn1

Dec-01-13 1:51 AM

Excellent letter Kevin although you will get much backlash from those that hate the industry. Act 13 money is being used for everything but what it was intended for. The roads and bridges that are truly impacted by the industry are left untouched because the money is being squandered on pet projects.

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mikekerstetter

Dec-01-13 4:14 AM

Exactly what I have been saying. I have a hard time with Williamsport getting 'impact' fees from gas companies. And from the reports in this letter, there is a LOT of this money being wasted on pork barrel projects.

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eriklatranyi

Dec-01-13 6:15 AM

Mike:

Williamsport deserves "impact fee" money because it is impacted by the industry who has operational centers here and who travel the roads here.

That was the intent of the "impact fee" to get money back to those impacted the most rather than what liberals want, to throw all the money into the general fund and let the politicians carve it up based on seniority and political power.

I agree that the county is spending the money in a way I disagree with, but at least we can vote those guys out.

If Harrisburg was wasting it, we only have one vote against all the others.

That is a perfect example of keeping power at the local level and not centralizing it, like liberals always want to do.

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mikekerstetter

Dec-01-13 6:21 AM

Erik, where are these gas companies located in the city of Williamsport? Most of those that I see are based in more rural areas, like Muncy, Montgomery, Clinton Twp, Watsontown, etc. And why is the money that is supposed to be going to fix what has been impacted going to the YMCA and to build for profit apartments/housing? It's a blatant misuse of the impact fees. I don't care whether it's local or state officials doing it, wrong is wrong.

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MrShaman

Dec-01-13 6:52 AM

"The county is supporting the drug population by giving them housing, and handing out free money. Look at the real problem that's killing your city Drugs and welfare. Bring in the drug testing for welfare recipients, then you will see how the state will make money.

Now explain to me why gas companies should be taxed again to fix these roads, buildings, cities, and towns. While these companies since 2010 have paid permits to drive on the roads that they use." - Kevin Bashnick

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Gee...."pitting" those poor/down-trodden gas-and-oil companies...against those big/bad welfare-recipients...whatta "competition" (seeing-as-how those welfare-recipients have ALWAYS had the politicians, at every level, in their "pockets")!!!

The gas-and-oil companies have (obviously) "lost their way", and really have very-few options left...except the power-o'-prayer. Hang-IN, there, guys...and, don't forget...the "good Lord" helps those who help THE

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MrShaman

Dec-01-13 6:53 AM

"...the "good Lord" helps those who help THEMSELVES (and, their lobbyi$t$...obviously).

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MrShaman

Dec-01-13 6:56 AM

"The roads and bridges that are truly impacted by the industry are left untouched because the money is being squandered on pet projects." - Capricorn1

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..."squandered" on such "pet projects" as...????

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MrShaman

Dec-01-13 7:08 AM

Mike:

Williamsport deserves "impact fee" money because it is impacted by the industry who has operational centers here and who travel the roads here." - eriklatranyi

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...Not to MENTION...we're residents of the State that OWNS all that natural-gas!!!!

The concept...that out-of-state gas-and-oil companies are (more) entitled to a BULK of the benefit$ (of OUR re$ource$)...is absurd.

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mikekerstetter

Dec-01-13 8:01 AM

MrShaman-"..."squandered" on such "pet projects" as...????"

Come on, Skippy, pay attention. Does YMCA and a for-profit housing complex sound familiar? Those are just two mentioned in the article.

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Capricorn1

Dec-01-13 8:04 AM

..."squandered" on such "pet projects" as...???? -Shaman

Did you read the examples in the letter that have absolutely nothing to do with anything impacted by the gas industry? Read it again and you tell me the justification to use Act 13 money.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Dec-01-13 8:31 AM

"...Not to MENTION...we're residents of the State that OWNS all that natural-gas!!!!"--MrShaman

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Here you go promoting Socialism again; what's yours is mine. The natural gas is not owned by the residents of the state. The natural gas is owned by the mineral owners which is/was in many times the land owner. In the cases were the land is owned by the State of Pennsylvania, then you can maybe imply that it is owned by the residents but even in this case the elected officials determine how to apportion the royalties.

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eriklatranyi

Dec-01-13 9:00 AM

"...Not to MENTION...we're residents of the State that OWNS all that natural-gas!!!!"--MrShaman

Spoken like a true liberal....no property rights for the people.....everything belongs to the state.

You didn't build that......

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CMReeder

Dec-01-13 9:21 AM

Amazing all of this money came from the gas companies and no one else.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Dec-01-13 10:05 AM

"Amazing all of this money came from the gas companies and no one else."--CMReeder

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What are you saying??????

Are you promoting socialism/communism yourself? Are you saying that it belongs to all the people??

It came through free market enterprise, personal property rights, technological developments, and being rewarded for hard work. The employees of these companies made this happen because they were compensated. The people that buy the gas made it happen because out of their free will, they decided to purchase so many units of gas for heat, cooking, etc. The people out of their free will chose to buy so many units of electricity from power plants in which some of them use natural gas.

There is an inter-connectivity but it is driven by free will and liberty instead of government intervention and mandate.

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eriklatranyi

Dec-01-13 10:26 AM

UGI announces lower natural gas prices, thanks to Marcellus Shale Gas.

Liberals reported to be upset because the poor and those on fixed incomes benefit from something other than gov't.

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spike2

Dec-01-13 10:26 AM

This would be interesting without the portion that is untrue." The county is supporting the drug population by giving them housing, and handing out free money. Look at the real problem that's killing your city Drugs and welfare. Bring in the drug testing for welfare recipients, then you will see how the state will make money". Welfare is a state program, not county. housing is federal yet administrated by a local board, in every county. You made great points until you threw in unsubstantiated bs.

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hopeforfuture

Dec-01-13 11:08 AM

Welfare recipients should be made to work for the money. In past generations people had to sign over their homes to the government along with working jobs like cleaning offices or what ever else they were capable of doing. My grandmother had to do this because her husband, my grandfather became to ill to work. He had a leg removed and developed gangrene, and died. The original reverse mortgage, give your home to government to get help. Time frame was 1930's.

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spike2

Dec-01-13 2:11 PM

Actually Hope, property is still attached for those who own. Fewer recipients own real property.

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DavidBross

Dec-01-13 3:59 PM

"That was the intent of the "impact fee" to get money back to those impacted the most rather than what liberals want, to throw all the money into the general fund and let the politicians carve it up based on seniority and political power." I'm curious, Erik. How do you feel about the new transportation bill?

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DavidBross

Dec-01-13 4:03 PM

Regarding the gas companies. I think they were much better prepared for coming to PA than PA was prepared for having them come here. That shows a lack of vision and leadership on the part of elected leaders and I can't help but think the gas companies leveraged that lack of prep to their benefit.

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BornHere

Dec-01-13 4:13 PM

Back in 2012 Corbett exempted the state's wealthiest counties from the direct impact of natural gas drilling, he approved a 6 year moratorium on drilling in Montgomery, Bucks and parts of Lehigh, Berks, and Chester counties.

These counties have no drilling and no impacts, but still received ACT 13 Impact Fees. If there is a moratorium for NO drilling, they should have received NO money, that money could have been used in area's that have had the direct impact from this industry.

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mikekerstetter

Dec-01-13 6:22 PM

Apparently Shaman doesn't have a suitable youtube video comeback.

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Shulski

Dec-01-13 9:40 PM

The writer of this letter is write. How dare the county fix the roads when they need to build another prison. Everyone on welfare should be put to hard work in prison. Hitleer never did anything like that.

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mikekerstetter

Dec-02-13 4:12 AM

Shulski-"Jingoism, jingoism, jingo all the way. All what fun it is to pick on women, blacks and gay-ays. That's what y'all are. Arrogant, prejudice rubes. Hicks. Krauts Hitleer would love in his kulturkampf"

Isn't that cute. Another race baiter. Not one word about race or gender occurred, until Shulski comes along.

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mikekerstetter

Dec-02-13 4:17 AM

Shulski-"The writer of this letter is write. How dare the county fix the roads"

That's the problem, Skippy, they aren't using the money to fix the roads, they are using it for pet projects like the new YMCA in Williamsport and the for profit housing at the former brodart site.

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