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Carelessness

December 3, 2013

To the woman in the red Jeep who almost ran me off the side of Market Street Bridge, just because you have your turn signal on doesn't mean you can change lanes when someone is already in that lane......

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Steelman

Dec-05-13 2:36 PM

Capricorn1 Sounds like the guy in the right lane was just “merging” into the left. Merging means, "both parties work it out. Neither has the right of way,"

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Sunnygirl

Dec-04-13 10:09 PM

Enigma, if you read the letter you would see this question "Why would you pass me and then shove your way over when you could have easily gotten behind me?". To me this indicates that there was plenty of space behind the letter writers car for the Jeep driver to get behind them safely. Perhaps the letter writer is not the bad driver and the Jeep driver is...just like the letter writer says.

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Capricorn1

Dec-04-13 6:44 PM

It's obvious a lot of people don't know the difference between yield and merge in this country judging by the way they approach traffic circles. Europe and Canada have these circles everywhere and they work but they rely on people knowing how to yield. Yield does NOT mean keep moving into the flow of traffic. That is called merging. Yes, I tend to move over if I'm able to but too many times yielding traffic has the attitude that you HAVE to move over.

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Capricorn1

Dec-04-13 6:35 PM

Streetman, look up the difference between merge and yield. They are two different acts. What you are describing is merging into traffic when in fact most onramps require you to yield. I don't know how many times I have been driving in the left lane and was forced to brake because the car in the right lane chose to move to the left to allow upcoming traffic in from the on ramp. That is just as dangerous because those in the left lane are usually traveling faster. A yield sign indicates that each driver must prepare to stop if necessary to let a driver on another approach proceed.

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Steelman

Dec-04-13 2:47 PM

You do know that there are states that specify in their keep right law that yielding to onramp traffic by changing lanes is prohibited. Capricorn1

All traffic is to keep moving, so if there is traffic on the on ramp then you should move over to the left to allow them in. By forcing them to stop at a yield sign you create a greater chance of causing an accident by them trying to get back up to speed on the highway. If it’s a stop sign that would be one thing, but at a yield sign, this makes no sense. What state would not let you move to the left lane at an onramp?

Posted speed limit is 65 mph but if you are in the left lane driving 65 mph, you will have a line of cars a half mile long behind you ToTEXASfromPA The left lane is for passing, not just cruising down the highway. Make your pass and move to the right. If the right lane is doing the posted speed limit then why is there a need to be in the left, just follow them.

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BillTriumph

Dec-04-13 9:10 AM

Ok seriously, what is the speed limit on the bridge? A. 35 MPH B. 70 MPH C. "what the car will do"

I tend to be attentive to the posted speed of 35 MPH not so much because I'm such a law-abiding do gooder... it provides a greater opportunity to stay back and watch the amazing show of incivility and total disregard for human life and safety with all the death defying risk taking you would ever want to see. That bridge has to hands down be single-handedly responsible for thousands of dollars worth of brake replacements as I see people floor it only to jam the brakes after achieving their top speed and or performing their erratic swerve lane-change-exit maneuver. Remember stick figure family window decal soccer mom NASCAR driving that mini-van... "Baby on Board".

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MrShaman

Dec-04-13 5:58 AM

"There are just too many drivers who have no manners when it comes to driving, and could care less." - USABorn

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...And, I'm guessing that's their approach to MOST things, in Life (unless they're simply inexperienced-teens).

Poor-parenting can grow some pretty-long "legs".

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Premier

Dec-04-13 5:49 AM

If you can move to the right you should do so. The sad fact is that many people are incapable of judging speed and closure rates resulting in dead stops for no reason.

The people I really get frustrated with {we've all seen this} is the person who will speed up or slow down to match your speed as to deny your merging.

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MrShaman

Dec-04-13 5:35 AM

Thanks Capricorn1- Some people should read their driving manual. If there is no traffic in the passing lane and I do not need to get off at the next exit I will move over. Faxon entrance is the worst when you need to get off at Basin St." - hopeforfuture

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...And, that's the stretch I'M talking-about.

When I see someone entering, from Faxon...as-WELL-as entering from Basin Street (headed East)...and, they end-up coming to a stop...because people prefer NOT to allow them entry...them, starting (from a dead-stop) creates a MORE-safe situation?????

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MrShaman

Dec-04-13 5:26 AM

Sham- yield means, 3. to give up possession of.., as in "right of way". You and a whole bunch of other people DON'T own the road..." - JohnZook

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...A sentiment (OBVIOUSLY) shared by you folks who REFUSE to avoid a road-rage "opportunity" (when it arises), by simply allowing another driver a more-convenient entry.

You prefer to "compete", instead? Yeah...we can DO that.

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MrShaman

Dec-04-13 5:20 AM

I'll tell you...if there's no one in the passing-lane, and...you won't pull-into it, and allow me entrance (from an entrance-ramp)...you'll have to drive a "little"-faster, YET, to block me out!! -Shaman

You do know that there are states that specify in their keep right law that yielding to onramp traffic by changing lanes is prohibited." - Capricorn1

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I've ALSO lived in states where there are signs showing merging-traffic (ahead), with the expectation that people will ALLOW a safe-entrance!

I'm quite aware of the whole..."HEY, I'M DRIVING, HERE!! I'VE got the right-o'-way!!!"-attitude...but, I ALSO remember (from driving-instructions I'd been given, back in '66), that NO ONE should assume "right-of-way".

Hey...we're talkin'-about common-courtesy, here...not-to-mention SAFETY!!! Would most people PREFER such drivers (who are attempting entry) to enter...from a DEAD-STOP??!!! Yeah...THAT "always" makes for a "safe"-situation

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USABorn

Dec-04-13 3:15 AM

After passing the intersection by Sheetz, headed toward 180, nine out of 10 times, someone will go speeding by on the right and then barge into the left lane turn. It's a wonder more people aren't killed there.

Another bad spot is at the "Y" going from Muncy to Hughesville. People stay in the right lane until the very last second and then barge into the left lane as the right lane runs out.

There are just too many drivers who have no manners when it comes to driving, and could care less.

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Zippie

Dec-03-13 10:21 PM

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CitizenQ

Dec-03-13 6:34 PM

I can understand this ladies frustration. True, none of us were there to witness this but I can say that there is rarely a day that I'm on that bridge that I don't see someone trying to force their car from the left land into the right at the last minute to make that turn. If I know I'm going to take a right at the end of the Market Street bridge, I stay in the right hand lane. I understand that some people may not be familiar with the area and find they need to change lanes at the last minute. But seeing it everyday, there are just rude, unaware drivers out there. Hope everyone is having a nice holiday season so far. In these days we have to practice a little more patience. Smile!

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Ritty77

Dec-03-13 6:33 PM

"costs by the oil companies placed on us drivers."

Hi Zippie. Can you elaborate on that statement? Shouldn't the purchaser of a product bear the costs of the product?

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Zippie

Dec-03-13 5:57 PM

Look at it this way: Come January there will be a lot less traffic on the roads due to the extra gas taxes and costs by the oil companies placed on us drivers.

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eriklatranyi

Dec-03-13 5:17 PM

You are all assuming too much.

There are many people visiting relatives for the holidays or hunting season. They do not know the layout of the roads.

Honest mistakes can happen.

Such events are not always due to someone's evil intent.

People need to learn to forgive a bit with other drivers.

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Ritty77

Dec-03-13 2:01 PM

The ramp driver should approach the merge point with the expectation that the other driver is NOT going to move left, because they don't have to move. Adjust your speed, as needed.

But as Shammy says, if I do move over for you (and I always do), please speed up or slow down so I can get back over, don't ride along side me.

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hopeforfuture

Dec-03-13 1:04 PM

Thanks Capricorn1- Some people should read their driving manual. If there is no traffic in the passing lane and I do not need to get off at the next exit I will move over. Faxon entrance is the worst when you need to get off at Basin St.

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JohnZook

Dec-03-13 10:28 AM

Sham- yield means, 3. to give up possession of.., as in "right of way". You and a whole bunch of other people DON'T own the road; therefor, by your actions, you are a danger to your fellow drivers. You use your vehicle as a weapon against those drivers who follow the rules of the road. YOU are a road bully.

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Capricorn1

Dec-03-13 10:09 AM

I'll tell you...if there's no one in the passing-lane, and...you won't pull-into it, and allow me entrance (from an entrance-ramp)...you'll have to drive a "little"-faster, YET, to block me out!! -Shaman

You do know that there are states that specify in their keep right law that yielding to onramp traffic by changing lanes is prohibited.

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leaningright

Dec-03-13 8:56 AM

Sometimes people make honest mistakes that seem horrible at the time. Maybe she did not do it intentionally. Accidents do happen. We are only human. If she was on the phone, shame on her, she risks her life and yours. There is no doubt that some people do not pay attention while driving.

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MrShaman

Dec-03-13 8:32 AM

"Well Mags, Did it ever occur to you that maybe you're the bad driver? I've been in the situation, that driver was in, trying to get into the right lane so I could make a right turn at the end of the bridge. Maybe it was you that wouldn't let me in." - enigma

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If you're gonna wait until the last-minute (to make that move), rather than putting-on your signal (sooner) and wait patiently for someone to let-you-in...find some alternate-route. How much time will that (really) cost you?

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MrShaman

Dec-03-13 8:25 AM

"On ramps is my pet peeve. Cars are suppose to yield to traffic on the main road. Drive defensively." - hopeforfuture

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Ah, yes...the most-"competitive" of situations!!!

I'll tell you...if there's no one in the passing-lane, and...you won't pull-into it, and allow me entrance (from an entrance-ramp)...you'll have to drive a "little"-faster, YET, to block me out!!

When I'm entering the main-route, I'll come-off the entrance-ramp (usually) doing 5-10+ miles over the speed-limit, so as not to slow-down traffic. Once in the main-flow, I'll slow-down to the average-speed, and allow anyone (who'd pulled-over, into the passing-lane) plenty of space to pull-back-in. If someone wants to COMPETE (with me), to the end of the entrance-lane, we can do THAT, TOO!!!!

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CMReeder

Dec-03-13 8:22 AM

Thankfully an accident did not happen and that is due to the writer being on the defense while driving. I bet the driver of the Jeep will not recognize herself.

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