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Conduct from City Council members

December 4, 2013

Citizens watch the City Council meetings on TV and when they see things going on during the meetings they can't believe their eyes as to the conduct of some of council member....

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spike2

Dec-05-13 7:29 PM

The meetings are televised on Comcast. Channel 70. Turn on and see if she made it.

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Godzilla1

Dec-05-13 12:54 PM

Holy hypocrisy Batman what should Gotham do?They have childish council, lying law enforcement and a holy hypocrite running the show. Not forgetting to mention the new knock out game, random shootings and the ever present h*roin problem. Maybe that new big time store downtown can run a special on bulletproof vests,security systems, helmets and give out detox coupons to the barnyard for Christmas?

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johnnyad3

Dec-05-13 8:49 AM

Cap, the reason I dismiss the letter is because at the beginning, the author says Ms. Miele is late but the minutes for the meetings don't reflect that. She is in attendance when the meeting is called to order.

Doesn't the S-G cover these meetings? I would think if conduct such as Ms. Weigand alleges were occurring, especially from a liberal, it would be exposed either in the news, or more likely, in their op-ed.

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enoughalready

Dec-05-13 8:35 AM

Hey RealAmerican, your "man of God" mayor storms out of meetings when he doesn't get his way and flat out lies... real Godly.... SMH

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Godzilla1

Dec-04-13 10:52 PM

Really just another E I E I O for Gothem City. Quick someone call Old McDonald another luny bird is out of the barn.

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Capricorn1

Dec-04-13 6:15 PM

Similar letter back on October 13th. Just happened to be by someone who ran for council and lost, I think twice. -Rick

Regardless of the intent of these letters, it doesn't automatically dismiss them as not being factual. To the contrary, they seem to have more of a reason to bring these facts to light out of resentment. You sound like you're automatically dismissing them because of a grudge. Many times facts come out because of that grudge. Personally I find it hard to believe that the letter writer would pull the idea of her flying paper airplanes out of thin air, no pun intended.

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RealAmerican

Dec-04-13 4:35 PM

One liberal and the other six members are republican. The mayor is republican too. Get rid of the liberals and I bet this town starts to get cleaned up. No more food stamps or public housing. Build a new prison. Make prisoners work. There should only be conservatives and this country will go back to its greatness in the 1950s

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RealAmerican

Dec-04-13 4:29 PM

That's what you get for electing a liberal socialist. I bet campana sits perfectly still and listens intently. He is a man of God

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johnnyad3

Dec-04-13 4:27 PM

"Passing notes may not be a crime on the level of mass murder, but it is a violation of law"

I've never heard of this law. Can you show us all the title and number of this law please?

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enigma

Dec-04-13 4:01 PM

" There could be a perfectly rational reason behind the notes (reminding a council member of something they WANTED to say on the record, perhaps?)"-djzlucky

And how would she know that if they hadn't been (illegally) discussing the issue off the record beforehand? Now I don't really believe that any council member who ever passes a note should be locked up, but if Ms. Miele has something to say to one of the other members during a meeting, she should say it so that everyone can hear it. That's how meetings work, unless of course you're trying to put something over on the others in the meeting or the public in attendance. There is a good reason why these meetings are required to be open. Passing notes may not be a crime on the level of mass murder, but it is a violation of law and a violation of public trust. Anyone who cares so little for their constituents that she would try to keep them out of the loop has no place in public service.

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enoughalready

Dec-04-13 2:00 PM

Unfortunately Steelerfan, she was better than the alternatives.

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johnnyad3

Dec-04-13 1:34 PM

From the minutes of council meetings:

"Council President Bill Hall brought the Williamsport City Council meeting to order on Thursday, November 7, 2013 at 7:30 PM in City Hall Council Chambers. The Cooley Studio did televise the meeting. The invocation was given by Councilman Jonathan Williamson and was immediately followed by the “Pledge of Allegiance”."

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"Council President Bill Hall brought the Williamsport City Council meeting to order on Thursday, October 10, 2013 at 7:30 PM in City Hall Council Chambers. The Cooley Studio did not televise the meeting. The invocation was given by Councilwoman Liz Miele and was immediately followed by the “Pledge of Allegiance”."

Unless the meetings start before 7:30, some people are spreading bad information. I mean she was there to give the invocation to get the meeting started.

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SteelerFan

Dec-04-13 1:22 PM

enoughalready, if I lived in Williamsport and knew of a council member who was chronically late for meetings and missing the 'Pledge', I wouldn't vote for her.

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enoughalready

Dec-04-13 11:56 AM

It's not that we necessarily like her Steelerfan, it's just she's not as bad as Ms. Weigand, who seems like she would rubber stamp every item brought forth by our lovely mayor no matter how crazy.

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rick424

Dec-04-13 11:19 AM

Similar letter back on October 13th. Just happened to be by someone who ran for council and lost, I think twice. That one got 52 comments. What is wrong with her facebook page? Looks like she has good taste in music and art. You go get them Liz, you ruffle those feathers.

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DeanWormer

Dec-04-13 11:02 AM

Blank post...sorry about that. Don't take my comments too seriously because I'm just stirring the pot and joking with enigma too. I understand the desire of the Republicans to not have activist government because that's their ideology so it's all fair in democracy. That's what we all want, right? It certainly interesting to watch the back and forth between the parties.

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DeanWormer

Dec-04-13 10:59 AM

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SteelerFan

Dec-04-13 10:56 AM

The voters obviously like her because they keep voting her a s s in.

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USABorn

Dec-04-13 10:49 AM

DeanWormer - 9:32 AM

"I can't imagine the reaction to the Republican-led do-nothing Congress. I mean these clowns voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act 40+ times!"

We don't have a do-nothing "Congress," we have a do-nothing DUMBOCRAT LED SENATE. The REPUBLICAN LED HOUSE has passed dozens of bills which Dirty Harry won't even bring up for a vote. So, the HOUSE voted on a resolution 40 times, that is 40 times more action then we've had out of the DO NOTHING SENATE!

It is a shame and disgrace that supposedly grown adults don't know Congress is composed of TWO PARTS, the Senate and House. And these people actually VOTE??????

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leaningright

Dec-04-13 10:47 AM

"I can't imagine the reaction to the Republican-led do-nothing Congress. I mean these clowns voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act 40+ times!" -DEAN

Dean- I would vote 100 times or even a 1000 times to repeal the GARBAGE ACA Act. That is what it is and it really stinks. Disrupt 90 percent of the population for the 10 percent that aren't insured, that makes no sense at all. It is not over yet, the website was or is just the beginning of the problem with this worthless piece of what they choose to call a law. I hope the next republican president wipes it off of the globe on his first day on the job with an executive order.

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djzlucky

Dec-04-13 10:36 AM

Enigma, you might want to slow down on the name-calling. First, passing notes isn't necessarily illegal in a council meeting. There could be a perfectly rational reason behind the notes (reminding a council member of something they WANTED to say on the record, perhaps?) Second, if a lawsuit needs to be filed to get this stopped then by definition the note passing isn't a criminal offense.

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Capricorn1

Dec-04-13 10:27 AM

Regardless of what you think of Ms. Miele, habitually being late, passing notes throughout the meetings and flying paper airplanes is not the behavior we should accept from our elected leaders for this city. We get enough childish behavior on Capitol Hill.

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MikeR7

Dec-04-13 9:41 AM

By all means we should try to hold up to the high ethical and moral standards of the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton politicians.

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DeanWormer

Dec-04-13 9:32 AM

If note passing in local City Council meetings makes "enigma" go ballistic, I can't imagine the reaction to the Republican-led do-nothing Congress. I mean these clowns voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act 40+ times!

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ArtFold

Dec-04-13 9:21 AM

If this paper airplane incident did happen, when did it happen? Before the last election? If it was prior to election day, you should have made this known to all in a letter to the editor at that time. The same goes for the note-passing. (I agree with Enigma on that one) To upeoplercrazy; I did go check out her Facebook page as you suggested and I see nothing wrong with it. Exactly what about it do you find "Not very professional"? It is a personal FB page, not a business or government related page. Please, show us your FB page. PS. Not that did matters, but I am not a supporter of Ms. Miele nor did I vote for her.

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