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December 6, 2013

I find it hard to believe that with the state that this country is in that any store chain in their right mind would open up on Thanksgivin....

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mikekerstetter

Dec-06-13 4:05 AM

Unfortunately the world does not quit revolving because it's a holiday. There are a LOT of places that cannot close or jobs where someone needs to work. Nursing homes, hospitals, prisons and electric power plants are a couple right off the top of my head. We need police, firefighters and EMS on duty.

While I don't think it's necessary for stores to open on Thanksgiving for 'Black Friday' sales, I don't see it any different than being open Sundays after many years of being closed on the Lord's Day.

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Tgrammiex4

Dec-06-13 4:41 AM

Great letter, I agree. Mike, the jobs you mention are service jobs that are neccesary for providing public services and sustaining life.Those workers know going in they will be needed even on holidays. Retail is a whole other thing. There is no deal a store can offer on the holiday that they can't offer on friday. It is purely greed that drives it and competition for the consumer dollar.No consideration is given to thier employees in allowing them to spend the holidays with thier families.

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Capricorn1

Dec-06-13 5:00 AM

If the people weren't driving the sales on Thanksgiving, the stores wouldn't be open. As long as people choose to go out and shop, they will be there to collect their money. Demand drives supply. The stores took a chance being open Thanksgiving day to see how people would respond, and obviously they did.

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gavinf56

Dec-06-13 5:01 AM

"Retail is a whole other thing. There is no deal a store can offer on the holiday that they can't offer on friday. It is purely greed that drives it and competition for the consumer dollar." - Tgrammiex4

So what about the Turkey Hill's and other convenience markets? Should they also be closed on Thanksgiving? They have been open for years and no one has complained, of course we all need gas to get to Grandma's house, but it is not an essential service.

You also have facility security (ADT), IT, television personnel so we can watch our football games, radio, et al. These people and many more have been working in the background on Thanksgiving for years.

As long as people go to the stores in increasing numbers to shop, retail stores will be open.

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gavinf56

Dec-06-13 5:03 AM

"A lot of urban elites who (like me) wouldn't be caught dead at Walmart on Thanksgiving taking bold stands against sales on Thanksgiving.

It's basically class condescension: People think Black Friday is distasteful, so they adopt a pose of "defending the workers" - Josh Barro

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DKMDKM

Dec-06-13 5:36 AM

I do not like the idea of Thanksgiving day retail shopping, but people are doing it! It's also worth considering that some people do not have plans, or family. Some people may have both, but they may also have bills to pay. It's worth considering all sides of the situation.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Dec-06-13 5:49 AM

Vote with your attendance and money. Mine don't go to the store.

But as Gavin mentions, we force those football teams to suit up and go on the field. Oh mom and grandma pick up overtime that day!!

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Tgrammiex4

Dec-06-13 5:54 AM

I guess to me it's just sad to see lifelong traditions fall to the wayside and be replaced with getting a TV for $100.I guess to many family is not as important as getting those deals.

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MrShaman

Dec-06-13 6:06 AM

"Retail is a whole other thing. There is no deal a store can offer on the holiday that they can't offer on friday. It is purely greed that drives it and competition for the consumer dollar." - Tgrammiex4

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ANTI-CAPITALIST!!!!

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Tgrammiex4

Dec-06-13 6:21 AM

ANTI-CAPITALIST!!!!- Shaman

I'm all for stores making money, keeps our people working as well as all the folks in China etc. I just think they should allow employees to spend holidays with thier families and start thier sales on Fri.

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Capricorn1

Dec-06-13 6:33 AM

Radioactive, why all the negativity towards Thanksgiving if you don't mind me asking? I take it you don't partake in Thanksgiving festivities with your family? There are a lot of people that enjoy the holiday with their families. I know there's a lot of men and women in uniform who can't go home for Thanksgiving and it's a difficult day for them. With everyone having such a busy life, it's nice to set aside holidays such as Thanksgiving to be grateful of the family you have.

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gavinf56

Dec-06-13 7:03 AM

Tgrammiex4, we do not shop on Thanksgiving day, or black Friday for that matter, and yes, family time is very important to us.

What I find amusing is the "outrage" for retail personnel having to work, because many of them may be friends or family, but no concern for those tens of thousands of people who have always had to work, but that is ok because they make our lives easier.

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Steelman

Dec-06-13 7:38 AM

If you build it they will come. It’s to late now it cannot be stopped so embrace it. Granted not everyone wants to work on Thanksgiving, but as I was getting of the airplane (which I would not have been able to do if no one worked and would have not been with my family) I stopped at a air port vendor where a young man was working, I said stinks to have to work today huh. He said not really all I would be doing would be sitting on the couch watching football, at least here I am making time and a half so I’ll have money to spend for the holidays. Maybe there is hope for our future generation

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enigma

Dec-06-13 7:38 AM

The writer misses a very important point. It's demand that causes stores to open earlier and earlier on Black Friday, now pushing it right into Thanksgiving. If these families were home instead of going out to fight over cheap TVs, the stores would not be open. Ed seems to think that the stores are somehow forcing these greedy, selfish people into their stores on Thanksgiving. It is the shoppers, not the stores that have decided to open on Thanksgiving. Any store that is not open early will lose money and in the land of retail, that could be the difference between prosperity and bankruptcy. It's the people, but as is the custom in this country, we blame big business for what's gone wrong.

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rick424

Dec-06-13 7:44 AM

What about the gas workers destroying our earth? Your argument is thin. If you don't want to shop stay home and watch your football game. Talk about family togetherness. Men watch the game women clean up. I for one did go shopping. We left at 6pm and got back at 1am then back out at 5am Got what I wanted. Mostly from China and cheap. Ahhhh how I do love corporate America!! I spent time with the family and had wonderful conversations with the store employees. Remember this is the corporate America you so love, screw the workers and let the CEOs make the big bucks. it is all about the money. What, now all of a sudden it is so wrong?

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gavinf56

Dec-06-13 7:49 AM

Had to get the dig in about the gas workers, huh Rick?

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enoughalready

Dec-06-13 8:16 AM

FYI: Kmart has been open on Thanksgiving for years.....

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MrShaman

Dec-06-13 8:21 AM

"Why aren't you asking to reinstate the blue laws so people have off on Sundays?" - radioactive

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Seeing-as-how people were such big fans of alcohol (in so-many Biblical-tales), establishments, that provide alcohol, CAN be expected to get a "pass" (in the event Blue Laws were re-implemented), RIGHT??!!!

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Capricorn1

Dec-06-13 8:22 AM

Mostly from China and cheap. Ahhhh how I do love corporate America!! -Rick

As long as people continue to purchase foreign products because it's cheaper, big box stores will continue to stock them and reduce demand for American manufacturing. It will also drive manufacturing out the country in order to compete. Isn't this exactly what liberals complain about?

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MrShaman

Dec-06-13 8:26 AM

"Ed seems to think that the stores are somehow forcing these greedy, selfish people into their stores on Thanksgiving." - enigma

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Whoahhhhhhhhhhhhh...you DARE trash American-consumers??!!!

COMMUNIST!!!!!!

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MrShaman

Dec-06-13 8:30 AM

"Ahhhh how I do love corporate America!! I spent time with the family and had wonderful conversations with the store employees. Remember this is the corporate America you so love, screw the workers and let the CEOs make the big bucks. it is all about the money. What, now all of a sudden it is so wrong?" - rick424

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'Bout TIME we heard from a true-blue, All-American, bona fide PATRIOT!!!!!

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CMReeder

Dec-06-13 8:31 AM

This is capitalism at it's finest.

No mention of one chain store's food drive to help out it's employees.

Love how some bemoan the loss of 'morals' and ethics and find little wrong with the practices of retail over the Thanksgiving holiday season.

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MrShaman

Dec-06-13 8:33 AM

Mostly from China and cheap. Ahhhh how I do love corporate America!! -Rick

As long as people continue to purchase foreign products because it's cheaper, big box stores will continue to stock them and reduce demand for American manufacturing. It will also drive manufacturing out the country in order to compete. Isn't this exactly what liberals complain about?" - Capricorn1

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Such is the "magic" of surviving on minimum-wage!!!!!

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MrShaman

Dec-06-13 8:35 AM

This is capitalism at it's finest.

No mention of one chain store's food drive to help out it's employees.

Love how some bemoan the loss of 'morals' and ethics and find little wrong with the practices of retail over the Thanksgiving holiday season." - CMReeder

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Conditional-"consistency"!! Ain't it GRAND??!!!

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eriklatranyi

Dec-06-13 8:50 AM

This is a contrivance by liberals to distract us from a holiday that strengthens the family and causes us to be thankful for anything other than our gov't.

Thanksgiving workers voluntarily give their time in exchange for money.

Shoppers voluntarily buy foreign goods.

If liberals had their way, workers would not make money on Thanksgiving and would be forced to stay home or risk punishment.

If liberals had their way, foreign goods would not be offered for sale, depriving the people of choices, resulting in more expensive, low quality domestic products. One only has to look at the health insurance offerings via Obamacare that limit choice and are more expensive to see this liberal idea in reality.

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