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December 7, 2013

Just a statement of horror at all the businesses that find it desirable to ruin their employees' Thanksgiving Day and evening, in hopes of luring customers away from one brief day of rest with......

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CMReeder

Dec-08-13 9:49 AM

I am not keeping anyone from working Erik. Then I don't think someone like you should be spouting how respectful they are to God and country and religion either while they show complete disrespect to families, work and holidays.

All you and Mike have done is make excuses for the insensitivity of retail at holiday time and then turn around and complain how Christ is being expunged from Christmas. Of course it the liberals who are doing this according to conservatives.

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CMReeder

Dec-08-13 9:42 AM

I did not call the hardcore conservatives atheists now did I. But all of the liberals are according to the hardcore conservatives here like Erik who I was responding to. But as always you ignore that piece of the discussion.

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mikekerstetter

Dec-08-13 5:07 AM

Chuck my reply about Atheist Liberals was in reply to your comment about 'hardcore conservatives'.

Despite years of telling me that I can't tell others what to do because of my Christian principles (IE my stance on gay marriage and abortion) part of your argument to keep stores closed and the people home is that it's a day to thank God for the bounty that he has given us.

And the other holidays? That was a question to put the call for everything to remain closed and the people home in context. I remember when a lot of those holidays were days off and a time of reflection and celebration. Several of them go by and are hardly mentioned, even in passing.

So my question really was why do you feel that Thanksgiving is so special that stores should remain home and people who enjoy shopping be deprived of that activity?

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eriklatranyi

Dec-07-13 7:40 PM

Mr. Reeder:

You are right. The discussion is about Thanksgiving and working on that day.

Only a liberal would favor depriving an owner and worker of the CHOICE to work on a holiday!

Proof that liberals are far more anti-choice than conservatives!

Is that better, Mr. Reeder?

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CMReeder

Dec-07-13 6:54 PM

Only liberals are atheists? Just like only Conservatives are Christians!

I did not say Thanksgiving was a religious holiday I said it was a holiday to thank God for our bounty for the year.

Mike the topic is Thanksgiving not holidays or that matter religion. You and Erik are determine to confuse the discussion with your false arguments.

Thanksgiving is a holiday to thank God for our bounty. It seems that some are not very thankful nor very bountiful.

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gavinf56

Dec-07-13 2:37 PM

Chick-fil-A and Hobby Lobby were both closed Thanksgiving Day.

Think about it in the context of Mike and Chuck's conversation.

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mikekerstetter

Dec-07-13 2:05 PM

CMReeder-"So the hardline conservatives thank God by shopping and opening their businesses on a day to give thanks for their bounty. I guess the only the lights they see are store lights."

Chuck, how do you know it isn't the Liberal Atheists who are the ones behind opening the stores? And while those of us who are Christian do take the time to thank God on Thanksgiving, it's not a 'religious' holiday.

While I, too, would like it if no one would have to work on Thanksgiving, it just isn't realistic to expect everything to be closed and everyone remain home.

And why just Thanksgiving? Why not the other Holidays like MLK, Presidents Day, Good Friday/Easter, Memorial Day, Independance Day, Labor Day, Columbus Day and Veterans Day? They can all be days spent with family giving thanks to God and reflecting on the reason for the day.

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ScottyDogg

Dec-07-13 1:19 PM

Chuck: What a fabulous gift you have that enables you to know who is shopping on Thanksgiving from the comfort of you home.

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mahs81

Dec-07-13 1:06 PM

I shall pray for those that disagree with John 3:16. My the Lord our God take pity on their souls.

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CMReeder

Dec-07-13 1:04 PM

So the hardline conservatives thank God by shopping and opening their businesses on a day to give thanks for their bounty. I guess the only the lights they see are store lights.

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BornHere

Dec-07-13 11:53 AM

Maybe Mr. Reeder has seen the light.

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mahs81

Dec-07-13 11:44 AM

"So Christmas holiday is thanks to the federal government and Thanksgiving is thanks to God."--CMReeder - No Chuck, both have been declared "Federal Holidays" by the Government. One is to give thanks to our Creator for all that he has given us. The other and more sacred is to give thanks for the greatest of those gifts which is that of our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ who came so that all who believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

* See: The Bible - John 3:16

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mikekerstetter

Dec-07-13 10:51 AM

I am at a loss. I can't believe that Chuck is using religion (Thanksgiving is a day to thank God for his bounty) as a reason that stores should be closed on Thanksgiving.

Am I the only one who finds that strange?

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mikekerstetter

Dec-07-13 10:44 AM

I've got to wonder why those of you who don't want to participate in Thanksgiving day shopping want to deny it to those who do? And what about those whose personal feelings are that it's nothing more than a 'Hallmark' holiday and could care less about it. Or those people who don't get paid for the day off who would rather work it and make that money they need to support themselves and/or family.

I personally don't like the commercialization of Christmas that detracts from the Birth of our Savior that is the main reason for the stores opening on Thanksgiving. But if the stores want to open and the people want to flock to them on Thanksgiving, who am I to tell them they can't?

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USABorn

Dec-07-13 10:29 AM

Premier - 5:23 AM

"The stores that are open on turkey day do so because they are market driven by the consumer."

In my 73 years, I have NEVER seen consumers clamoring for stores to be open on Thanksgiving. And the only reason they even go to the stores, is because of the ridiculous prices offered to pull them in.

It's a toss up as to which is worse......the greed of the store owners or the greed of the customers.

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enigma

Dec-07-13 9:56 AM

"but there is no bargain on earth that could tempt me to spend money at a store that opens on Thanksgiving. Boycott 'em all!"- Elizabeth Affsprung

It looks like Elizabeth isn't going to have many places to shop. She'll be giving postage stamps for Christmas this year. It's one thing to disapprove of the craziness that Christmas shopping has become, but quite another to want to boycott any store that's open on Thanksgiving. It is certainly her right, and I agree with her that Thanksgiving shopping is ridiculous, but I wonder if she can pull it off considering that most stores were open on Thanksgiving. Good luck with that, Liz.

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enigma

Dec-07-13 9:48 AM

"Christmas holiday is a federal holiday no matter what your belief is. But consider this Thanksgiving is a holiday thanking God for a bountiful harvest."-Chuck

Thanksgiving is also a federal holiday, so what's your point? Oh wait, this is Chuck, there is no point. My bad.

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DavidBross

Dec-07-13 9:40 AM

"Once upon a time, everybody had a day off together every week (Sunday)." This comment is what I would expect from a teen ager when they say, "Everybody will be there." "Everybody" really means the small group of people in that person's circle of friends. I would hope that when a persons leaves the teen age years, they would leave that kind of simplistic, self-centered thinking behind.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Dec-07-13 9:01 AM

"So Christmas holiday is thanks to the federal government and Thanksgiving is thanks to God."--CMReeder

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I hope this is a little sarcasm.

My company does NOT let workers off for all the Federal Holidays. They do however let most off for Christmas and Thanksgiving, except for a skeleton staff of operation or drilling people to respond to any critical upset conditions.

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CMReeder

Dec-07-13 8:54 AM

Makes you wonder how many atheists own businesses that they are open on Thanksgiving.

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CMReeder

Dec-07-13 8:47 AM

So Christmas holiday is thanks to the federal government and Thanksgiving is thanks to God.

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CMReeder

Dec-07-13 8:45 AM

Christmas holiday is a federal holiday no matter what your belief is. But consider this Thanksgiving is a holiday thanking God for a bountiful harvest.

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CMReeder

Dec-07-13 8:15 AM

"Does anyone think we will see liberals lamenting workers on Christmas, a religious holiday?" ]

Will we ever see a day when Erik doesn't lament about liberals on every subject?

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andy33

Dec-07-13 7:26 AM

I made it a personal mission not to shop on Thanksgiving or Black Friday....I can only hope others will do the same....EVERY YEAR!

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ToTEXASfromPA

Dec-07-13 7:07 AM

"Does anyone think we will see liberals lamenting workers on Christmas, a religious holiday?"

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Yes, because there are some Democrats that are Christian and believe in the observance of Christmas, even though based on the voice vote at the DNC convention, it was obvious they were in the minority.

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