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December 7, 2013

Just a statement of horror at all the businesses that find it desirable to ruin their employees' Thanksgiving Day and evening, in hopes of luring customers away from one brief day of rest with......

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CMReeder

Dec-07-13 1:02 AM

Heck I am too stuffed with turkey and all the fixins to go shopping on Thanksgiving let alone anything else. To be honest I don't see how anyone can do anything but eat and be with family and friends on Thanksgiving.

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Premier

Dec-07-13 5:23 AM

The stores that are open on turkey day do so because they are market driven by the consumer.

So who's to blame,the store or the consumer?

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mikekerstetter

Dec-07-13 5:31 AM

There have been stores open for years on holidays. Can't tell you how many times I've gone out in search of something I forgot for a holiday meal. Or for gas because I'm going somewhere. Just this year I was at Dollar General because I forgot that I threw away all of our Christmas lights last year and I needed them to fulfil our annual tradition of putting up the Christmas tree on Thanksgiving.

My wife worked her job at a nursing home. Our son went to work at his job an area restaurant that serves over 3000 people every Thanksgiving. I've worked plenty of Holidays, including Thanksgiving and Christmas over the years, and just like this year, we moved our Holiday meal/celebration to another day.

There are a lot of people who look forward to the shopping. If not for the customers who flock to the stores there would be no reason to be open.

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MrShaman

Dec-07-13 6:33 AM

"Once upon a time, everybody had a day off together every week (Sunday). Now commerce rules the day, every day, holy or otherwise." - Elizabeth Affsprung

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Back in the late-'60s/early-'70s, such complaints would draw the response "Love It, Or Leave It!!"...but, it was (typically) a response heard from the same kind-o'-folks who are complaining about "commerce" (on Thanksgiving), presently.

Yeah...I'd say that qualifies as Irony.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Dec-07-13 6:48 AM

I consider the saying "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Our family has gathered at my wife's parents' house for many years and uses it as a chance to thank God for all the blessings that he has provided and then enjoy a good meal (and repeat evening meal). I want others to enjoy that also so I choose not to go to the department stores, electronics stores, and others just to shop and get a good deal.

There are certain more "society-critical jobs" and I understand that they may need to work. And yes I have gone to CVS/Walgreens on Christmas to get something. Normally the people in the store were immigrants or sons/daughters of immigrants or other religions that didn't celebrate these traditional holidays and preferred to make the extra money. Many times they could swap out to take other days that were preferable to them.

In conclusion, I think that we should do to others as we would want them to do to us, if we were in their shoes.

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eriklatranyi

Dec-07-13 6:57 AM

Does anyone think we will see liberals lamenting workers on Christmas, a religious holiday?

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ToTEXASfromPA

Dec-07-13 7:07 AM

"Does anyone think we will see liberals lamenting workers on Christmas, a religious holiday?"

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Yes, because there are some Democrats that are Christian and believe in the observance of Christmas, even though based on the voice vote at the DNC convention, it was obvious they were in the minority.

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andy33

Dec-07-13 7:26 AM

I made it a personal mission not to shop on Thanksgiving or Black Friday....I can only hope others will do the same....EVERY YEAR!

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CMReeder

Dec-07-13 8:15 AM

"Does anyone think we will see liberals lamenting workers on Christmas, a religious holiday?" ]

Will we ever see a day when Erik doesn't lament about liberals on every subject?

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CMReeder

Dec-07-13 8:45 AM

Christmas holiday is a federal holiday no matter what your belief is. But consider this Thanksgiving is a holiday thanking God for a bountiful harvest.

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CMReeder

Dec-07-13 8:47 AM

So Christmas holiday is thanks to the federal government and Thanksgiving is thanks to God.

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CMReeder

Dec-07-13 8:54 AM

Makes you wonder how many atheists own businesses that they are open on Thanksgiving.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Dec-07-13 9:01 AM

"So Christmas holiday is thanks to the federal government and Thanksgiving is thanks to God."--CMReeder

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I hope this is a little sarcasm.

My company does NOT let workers off for all the Federal Holidays. They do however let most off for Christmas and Thanksgiving, except for a skeleton staff of operation or drilling people to respond to any critical upset conditions.

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DavidBross

Dec-07-13 9:40 AM

"Once upon a time, everybody had a day off together every week (Sunday)." This comment is what I would expect from a teen ager when they say, "Everybody will be there." "Everybody" really means the small group of people in that person's circle of friends. I would hope that when a persons leaves the teen age years, they would leave that kind of simplistic, self-centered thinking behind.

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enigma

Dec-07-13 9:48 AM

"Christmas holiday is a federal holiday no matter what your belief is. But consider this Thanksgiving is a holiday thanking God for a bountiful harvest."-Chuck

Thanksgiving is also a federal holiday, so what's your point? Oh wait, this is Chuck, there is no point. My bad.

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enigma

Dec-07-13 9:56 AM

"but there is no bargain on earth that could tempt me to spend money at a store that opens on Thanksgiving. Boycott 'em all!"- Elizabeth Affsprung

It looks like Elizabeth isn't going to have many places to shop. She'll be giving postage stamps for Christmas this year. It's one thing to disapprove of the craziness that Christmas shopping has become, but quite another to want to boycott any store that's open on Thanksgiving. It is certainly her right, and I agree with her that Thanksgiving shopping is ridiculous, but I wonder if she can pull it off considering that most stores were open on Thanksgiving. Good luck with that, Liz.

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USABorn

Dec-07-13 10:29 AM

Premier - 5:23 AM

"The stores that are open on turkey day do so because they are market driven by the consumer."

In my 73 years, I have NEVER seen consumers clamoring for stores to be open on Thanksgiving. And the only reason they even go to the stores, is because of the ridiculous prices offered to pull them in.

It's a toss up as to which is worse......the greed of the store owners or the greed of the customers.

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mikekerstetter

Dec-07-13 10:44 AM

I've got to wonder why those of you who don't want to participate in Thanksgiving day shopping want to deny it to those who do? And what about those whose personal feelings are that it's nothing more than a 'Hallmark' holiday and could care less about it. Or those people who don't get paid for the day off who would rather work it and make that money they need to support themselves and/or family.

I personally don't like the commercialization of Christmas that detracts from the Birth of our Savior that is the main reason for the stores opening on Thanksgiving. But if the stores want to open and the people want to flock to them on Thanksgiving, who am I to tell them they can't?

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mikekerstetter

Dec-07-13 10:51 AM

I am at a loss. I can't believe that Chuck is using religion (Thanksgiving is a day to thank God for his bounty) as a reason that stores should be closed on Thanksgiving.

Am I the only one who finds that strange?

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mahs81

Dec-07-13 11:44 AM

"So Christmas holiday is thanks to the federal government and Thanksgiving is thanks to God."--CMReeder - No Chuck, both have been declared "Federal Holidays" by the Government. One is to give thanks to our Creator for all that he has given us. The other and more sacred is to give thanks for the greatest of those gifts which is that of our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ who came so that all who believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

* See: The Bible - John 3:16

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BornHere

Dec-07-13 11:53 AM

Maybe Mr. Reeder has seen the light.

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CMReeder

Dec-07-13 1:04 PM

So the hardline conservatives thank God by shopping and opening their businesses on a day to give thanks for their bounty. I guess the only the lights they see are store lights.

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mahs81

Dec-07-13 1:06 PM

I shall pray for those that disagree with John 3:16. My the Lord our God take pity on their souls.

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ScottyDogg

Dec-07-13 1:19 PM

Chuck: What a fabulous gift you have that enables you to know who is shopping on Thanksgiving from the comfort of you home.

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mikekerstetter

Dec-07-13 2:05 PM

CMReeder-"So the hardline conservatives thank God by shopping and opening their businesses on a day to give thanks for their bounty. I guess the only the lights they see are store lights."

Chuck, how do you know it isn't the Liberal Atheists who are the ones behind opening the stores? And while those of us who are Christian do take the time to thank God on Thanksgiving, it's not a 'religious' holiday.

While I, too, would like it if no one would have to work on Thanksgiving, it just isn't realistic to expect everything to be closed and everyone remain home.

And why just Thanksgiving? Why not the other Holidays like MLK, Presidents Day, Good Friday/Easter, Memorial Day, Independance Day, Labor Day, Columbus Day and Veterans Day? They can all be days spent with family giving thanks to God and reflecting on the reason for the day.

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