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December 31, 2013

We hear that gridlock in Washington is harmful....

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GoBB62

Jan-02-14 8:15 AM

Maddow & Dailykos....

Yeah sham's got the ol' tinfoil hat dialed in now.

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MrShaman

Jan-01-14 7:37 AM

"Funny that the hosts on MSDNC over the weekend thought the Congress of 2008-2009 was one of the most productive in years. Go figure." - gavinf56

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I guess you had to be there...to actually know.

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See:

Rachel Maddow (1) 111th Congress Put Policy Before Politics - YouTube

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Rachel Maddow (2) 111th Congress Put Policy Before Politics - YouTube

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MrShaman

Jan-01-14 7:28 AM

"A government that is so clearly incompetent, that it can't manage the creation of a workable website after four years, is not deserving of anything more than gridlock." - eriklatranyi

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You T-Baggers are so amusing, when you attempt to address IT-issues!!!! LOL!!!!

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See:

Daily Kos: A Software Developer's View On The HealthCaregov Glitches

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MrShaman

Jan-01-14 7:21 AM

"Now...if you listen to Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck on a DAILY basis, you'll be convinced the "gubmint" is constantly on your back and you'll end up blaming EVERY little problem on the big, bad government. It's a bunch of bull to blame every little problem on the government." - DeanWormer

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...But, a VERY "convenient" excuse (for Limbaugh/Beck fans), to avoid working on their OWN, PERSONAL issues.

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MrShaman

Jan-01-14 7:16 AM

"Obama’s, America’s first openly Marxist president, was willing to negotiate with Iran and Syria, but not with the GOP." - Steelman

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Ah, yes...because Mitch McConnell was all-ABOUT negotiating, when he said..."Our No. 1 priority is to make this President a one-term president."

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USABorn

Jan-01-14 1:27 AM

"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."

So let Dumbama vacation, golf, play basketball, visit the Chicago bathhouses, anything that keeps a pen out of his corrupt hand!

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Shulski

Jan-01-14 1:18 AM

When the Constitution was written, Jefferson was arguing for an agrarian state vs. Hamilton's idea of a manufacturing republic. There were only 13 states and slavery was still legal.

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msgjsheets

Dec-31-13 8:13 PM

David Bross hit part of the problem on the head. When the Constitution was written, things were slower and men took the time to think about what they were doing and what the results would be. Now, members of both parties, eager to continue receiving campaign contributions rush to pass something, anything so they can say they solved the problem. Their solutions very often make the problem worse or bring out new problems. Sometimes gridlock can be the most productive thing to come out of Washington!!

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underwood

Dec-31-13 4:30 PM

Jerry, the war in Afghanistan seemed to be in self-defense after 9/11, but I never considered the war in Iraq self-defense. The war in Afghanistan morphed into something else and I no longer see any reason to even consider supporting it. Both wars are proving to be failures that cost us a great deal in wealth and the lives of our armed forces.

As long as we have a government based upon collective principles the problems you mentioned should be addressed. What I oppose is our government being based upon collective principles but I'll settle for gridlock. I believe people’s reliance upon government assistance wouldn’t be necessary if we had the government our founders envisioned.

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DeanWormer

Dec-31-13 3:34 PM

I guess the gubmint was somehow responsible for Target's recent massive data security breach? Oh, that's right...the private sector does no wrong and always extremely competent. Want fries with that?

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JerryfromRI

Dec-31-13 3:11 PM

It wasn't a theoretical question, either yes, you supported it or no, you did not.

I supported the war - mostly because I trusted Colin Powell judgement and believed that what he was saying was truthful.

I get why you would support gridlock Phil and I give you credit for consistently trying to engage in thoughtful debate.

So then, we've got the gridlock you welcome, does your welcome have limits? If unemployment hits 20% and the Dow drops 50% will you still champion inaction? How bad does it have to get before you'll say "we've got to do something"?

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gavinf56

Dec-31-13 3:00 PM

What does one consider to be "gridlock"? If it's not letting the simple majority ram through their legislation over the objections of the minority, then our political system is working exactly as it was designed to.

Funny that the hosts on MSDNC over the weekend thought the Congress of 2008-2009 was one of the most productive in years. Go figure.

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underwood

Dec-31-13 2:43 PM

Jerry, I only support the use of force in self-defense and for government’s enforcement of the law.

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eriklatranyi

Dec-31-13 2:33 PM

A government that is so clearly incompetent, that it can't manage the creation of a workable website after four years, is not deserving of anything more than gridlock.

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DavidBross

Dec-31-13 2:00 PM

Gridlock is also a problem when it prevents a government from discharging its responsibilities as the representative of its citizens in the world community.

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DeanWormer

Dec-31-13 1:34 PM

enigma: It's between your ears and a state of mind. I just returned from a 10-day vacation in Florida and no government intervention in my life. Oh yeah, the polite TSA agent asked me to walk through a metal detector for my own safety. Other than that I didn't run into any government interference in my daily activities. Now...if you listen to Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck on a DAILY basis, you'll be convinced the "gubmint" is constantly on your back and you'll end up blaming EVERY little problem on the big, bad government. It's a bunch of bull to blame every little problem on the government.

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enigma

Dec-31-13 1:01 PM

David, Gridlock is only a problem is government has far too much influence on daily life that it should.

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JerryfromRI

Dec-31-13 12:44 PM

I'm curious to know if Phil supported the Iraq war.

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DeanWormer

Dec-31-13 11:44 AM

Somalia is a good role model. Laissez faire works!

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DavidBross

Dec-31-13 11:27 AM

It is important to remember that the Constitution was written when life moved much slower and weeks, even months, were required to send a message and receive a reply. Life moves much faster now and requires 24/7 attention to keep up with it. Gridlock has a much more significant, and negative, impact on events now than it did in the early 1800s. Another way to put is that more happens in a week that must be dealt with than what happened in a year 200 years ago.

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enigma

Dec-31-13 11:27 AM

I agree Phil, but I would go one step further. What they really should be doing is repealing laws. We already have far too many stupid laws, so getting rid of them is much more important than passing new ones.

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Steelman

Dec-31-13 10:34 AM

Obama’s, America’s first openly Marxist president, was willing to negotiate with Iran and Syria, but not with the GOP. Liberals continue to blame Republicans for the Democrat-ordered government shutdown and to punish the American people.

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JohnZook

Dec-31-13 10:09 AM

Finally a "tea-bagger" comment Sham, but what about Porky Limbaugh (that's what he would say) and all the rest. You're slippin' in your old age.... You must be missing your "Commies Anonymous" meetings.

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underwood

Dec-31-13 9:23 AM

Perhaps some of the critics of gridlock could explain to us just what they would like to see government accomplish. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting though; they only seem capable of being critical of their opponents. Expressing there own ideology is completely foreign to them.

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MrShaman

Dec-31-13 8:35 AM

"Even when they are working they still are not getting anything accomplished, besides costing tax payers a lot of money." - Steelman

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C'mon...c'mon...ya' gotta give the House Class O' 2010 a "little" credit...for hu$tling OTHER T-Baggers into voting for them!!!! After all...how many OTHER people have benefited from proclaiming (right from the START) they would perform ZERO duties, for their generous-salaries??!!! Only (other) T-Baggers would see that as economically-practical!!!

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