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Legalize drugs

January 2, 2014

I first expressed my view that we should legalize drugs in a letter in December 200....

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Millwe

Jan-06-14 12:57 AM

I, too, agree after researching the "war on drugs", which we are, and have always "lost". A lot of people are making money off addicts and want to keep it that way. The war on drugs as been as successful as Prohibition. See reading material by George P. Shultz-Defining ideas for a reality check. That is not to say believe drug use is acceptable, quite the opposite, however, we need, as a society, to focus on the reason for the demand. Not in other cultures...why?

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rmiller

Jan-04-14 10:53 PM

Sham,

Your response to wwhickok was a bit cruel, I think...

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CMReeder

Jan-04-14 8:11 AM

So MrShaman your argument is more is better. More personal choice.

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MrShaman

Jan-04-14 6:42 AM

wwhickok,

Love your post. Perhaps most here advocating the "legalizing" of just another vice, never personally dealt with the fallout. It's so sad to hear arguments based on economics and logic, over an issue that is painfully near and dear to the heart of many. It actually puts in focus the mindset of Americans today - just ignore the facts - let's keep the money sign on focus!" - rmiller

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So...what you're saying, is...whether-or-not the government pursues a "nanny"-agenda should be "conditional", huh??

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MrShaman

Jan-04-14 6:37 AM

"...you have to be an idiot to condone illegal drug use. I speak as the son of a man who did serious time because of his drug use.

It destroys families, it destroys lives, it gets people killed." - wwhickok

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...Not-to-MENTION the "divine-right" to job-security, for DEA-employees, right??

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See:

True History of Marijuana Full Movie - YouTube

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MrShaman

Jan-04-14 6:27 AM

"People want relief from the pain they are experiencing whether it is mental, physical or social. Should they be self medicating themselves?" - CMReeder

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If they SHOULDN'T be....we'd better start closing every bar/tavern, in the STATE!!!!

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rmiller

Jan-03-14 11:14 PM

Ooooooops,

that should be BC, not BS...

although I just gave some of you a free pass.... :)

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rmiller

Jan-03-14 11:13 PM

Sham,

Or

Cheryl,

whichever,

"How amusing, when...you T-Baggers...who've never (really) been much of ANYwhere...pose as "authorities" on such places!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!! "

Then, talk to the hand...I've been in four European Countries, one Eastern Country and every state in the union, except Hawaii (actually I'm glad that was a brief stop over because I think I lost my BS there). Please don't assume anything.

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rmiller

Jan-03-14 11:10 PM

wwhickok,

Love your post. Perhaps most here advocating the "legalizing" of just another vice, never personally dealt with the fallout. It's so sad to hear arguments based on economics and logic, over an issue that is painfully near and dear to the heart of many. It actually puts in focus the mindset of Americans today - just ignore the facts - let's keep the money sign on focus!

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wwhickok

Jan-03-14 12:30 PM

You're wrong. It's that simple. It wouldn't remove the profit from the streets. If they were to legalize drugs they would want to tax it. Meaning there will still be a "black market" for it to avoid Governmental control.

Beyond that factor, you have to be an idiot to condone illegal drug use. I speak as the son of a man who did serious time because of his drug use.

It destroys families, it destroys lives, it gets people killed. That should be legal? Give me a freakin' break!!!

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MrShaman

Jan-03-14 10:36 AM

"travel to Holland to see where legalized drugs leads. The utopia people imagine with some drugs legalized doesn't come true." - idiottwo

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How amusing, when...you T-Baggers...who've never (really) been much of ANYwhere...pose as "authorities" on such places!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!

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See:

Amsterdam Coffee Shop (1995) - YouTube

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Amsterdam Documentary - Part 1 - YouTube

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MrShaman

Jan-03-14 9:36 AM

"It's just a matter of time before pot is legalized nation wide." - gavinf56

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No doubt.

See:

Marijuana Advocate: Time For Uptight Lawmakers To Exhale, Legalize Pot - NY Daily News

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New York Medical Marijuana Debate Heats Up | Long Island Press

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MrShaman

Jan-03-14 9:23 AM

"It will be interesting to see how far into the depths of depravity Colorado falls in the next five or so years. And it WILL fall..." - USABorn

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It will ("fall"), huh? Who told you that...Porky Limbaugh (of Oxy-fame), or Miss Cleo (a fraud)??

You've (quite) obviously spent very-little-time in Colorado. The ONLY difference...between now, and December 31, is...Pot is (now) LEGAL, to purchase.

Marijuana has pretty-much been a "staple" (o' the Colorado-lifestyle), for DECADES!!!!!!

Unfortunately (for your psychic-"skills"), any noticeable-changes (in Pot-consumption, BY Coloradans), will be nearly-negligible.

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MrShaman

Jan-03-14 9:14 AM

underwood - 1:07 PM "I’ve had family members, friends and acquaintances who used drugs without becoming addicted or moving on to H."

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When my husband went to White Deer for alcohol abuse, I had many opportunities to talk to patients who were there for drug abuse. Every one of them stated that marijuana was their INTRO to drugs..." - USABorn

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Yeah...let's ALL try to convince ourselves (like those anti-drug "icons", at White Deer) that alcohol ISN'T a drug!!

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MrShaman

Jan-03-14 9:06 AM

"Marijuana contains over 400 chemicals, many of which DO harm the body." - USABorn

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You have no proof, of that....

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See:

Erowid Cannabis Vault : Exposing Marijuana Myths

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idiottwo

Jan-03-14 7:13 AM

travel to Holland to see where legalized drugs leads. The utopia people imagine with some drugs legalized doesn't come true.

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CMReeder

Jan-02-14 8:23 PM

"Only one that completely misunderstands the legal/illegal discussion could state that anyone is advocating drug use. I, and I believe, most of us think anything but medically prescribed drug use is a poor personal decision. It’s simply a cop-out for those trying to replace personal responsibility with government control to think that."

I did not say that. I said you are taking away personal responsibility for their choice to use drugs.

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CMReeder

Jan-02-14 8:15 PM

More than likely especially if CO gets the revenue it is expecting from the sales. How much of that will be from out of state buyers?

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gavinf56

Jan-02-14 6:48 PM

It's just a matter of time before pot is legalized nation wide.

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gavinf56

Jan-02-14 6:46 PM

Don't know if it was brought up in this thread or not, but the first person to buy pot legally in CO is an Iraq War Vet suffering from PTSD.

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rmiller

Jan-02-14 6:18 PM

Just like legalizing alcohol took alcoholics off the street and took drunk drivers off the roads, right?

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Premier

Jan-02-14 5:09 PM

"I can here Nancy Pelosi now.

"The best way to combat drug use is to supply more free drugs and paraphernalia"." - Premier

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"Your h-e-a-r-i-n-g has (quite obviously) improved, since your Elementary-introduction to spelling!

"...p-a-r-a-p-h-e-r-n-a-l-i-a..."???!!!! "

How do you spell it oh great one? Wiki and Webster spell it the same way. Come on now impress me.

From Wiki: Drug paraphernalia is a term used, often with a slightly negative connotation due to its use in criminal law field e.g. "possession of drug paraphernalia", to denote any equipment, product, or material that is modified for making, using, or concealing drugs, typically for recreational purposes.

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spike2

Jan-02-14 3:35 PM

Cap - I don't think we will ever legalize her oin or barbitu rates. Any treatment or dispensed drug would be a pharmaceutical to keep the individual from being physically sick. we wouldn't pass out her oin and needles. crack is a different animal. No physical addiction as with coke. The comments re: weed were not directed to your comment. Sorry for the confusion. I agree with legalization of weed. have not seen weed related offenses. Ever heard of a weed related domestic disturbance? Can you say the same thing about alcohol.

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underwood

Jan-02-14 2:28 PM

Only one that completely misunderstands the legal/illegal discussion could state that anyone is advocating drug use. I, and I believe, most of us think anything but medically prescribed drug use is a poor personal decision. It’s simply a cop-out for those trying to replace personal responsibility with government control to think that.

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CMReeder

Jan-02-14 1:57 PM

"Making drug use a legal personal choice will most certainly eliminate the drug providing criminal empires."

People using drugs is a personal choice what you are advocating along with others is no personal responsibility for that choice in order to stop financial gain for criminals.

I will agree that there are sentences for drug abusers that do not do a thing to address the problem. To completely decriminalize drug use of any kind is just giving up and giving in and walking away from the problem.

The problem is addiction pure and simple. People looking for a bigger and better way to get high. You even showed that in you post. Drug makers keep researching for stronger drugs. Both legally and illegally. People want relief from the pain they are experiencing whether it is mental, physical or social. Should they be self medicating themselves?

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